Black People : HIV does not exist

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  1. FiveAlive

    FiveAlive Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Building on Siter River's comments. HIV was not created in a lab, HIV does not exist. If people go deep enough into this subject they will find that the HIV virus has never been isolated. HIV tests (ELISA and Western Blot) are designed to detect antibodies produced by the body in response to infection with HIV. To determine if the test are accurate, they must select a sample of people (at least 1000), give them all the test, and see who tests positive. Then they have to determine, which of those people who tested positive actually have the virus. That's the only way to determine if the test is accurate. The problem (one of them) is that no one has ever found the virus. A 'positive test' means that certain proteins are present in the sample. There are 4 proteins that they test for. Another problem is the lack of consistency concerning which proteins must be present for a person to test 'positive'. In Africa, if you have any two of the four proteins, you are considered positive. In America, some labs require three, some labs require two, some require particular combinations. In Australia, you have to have all four proteins. Theoretically, some HIV positive people in Africa could move to Australia or US and be negative. The reward waiting for anyone who can isolate the virus still has not been given.

    There is no scientific evidence that the, as yet unidentified HIV causes AIDS. There's no medical journal in the world that states that HIV causes AIDS but the media and evens some doctors have been drawn into the HYPE and religion of HIV= AIDS.

    AIDS occurs through Malnutrition (weakened immunity), Medical Steroids, Street drug useage, and antiretroviral drugs prescribed for HIV.

    The tests for HIV have over 60+ false positives, many of which are very common such as Malaria, Pregnancy, Flu. It is also possible (and likely), that certain ehtnic groups test positive more often than not due to proteins and antibodies more common in those populations due to genetics. People in African aren't even tested with these pathetic tests because (1) they cost too much ,and (2) they know they'll show positive because of the parasites, viruses and pregnancies they all have etc. They just label a person with AIDS just because they have a symptom they so conviently label now as an AIDS related problem.

    There is a conspiracy to depopulate with this, its just not quite how you think. We are fooled into either believing the hype of the establishment, or again conspiracy theories that the Rockefeller/Merck/Litton eugenics movements have created this in a lab in the U.S and spread it around to depopulate. It is true that vaccines have additives/agents that kill populations off, or cripple them with disease, but AIDS is nothing to do with this.

    By keeping us and the world in this massive fraud they depopulate without the need for a virus, they label all common diseases as AIDS in Africa and get away with it. They make mass profits from drugs which help speed the agenda along. You're none the wiser and expect symptoms and death because you believe in the bs they feed you. It again shows the extent of having people on both sides of the fence, and also how many people can be blinded into actually helping their agenda unknowingly.


    I suggest you look at these sites.

    http://www.virusmyth.net/aids/

    http://aidsmyth.addr.com/

    http://www.nexusmagazine.com/articles/hivnotaids1.html

    http://credence.org/aidstour/aidstour2.htm

    http://groups.msn.com/aidsmythexposed

    http://www.ourcivilisation.com/aids/

    http://14.freebb.com/viewforum.php?f=7&freebb=unhivedmind

    http://www.nomorefakenews.com/


    Books to read

    Eleni Papadopulos Eleopulos et al., 'Mother to Child Transmission of HIV and its Prevention with AZT and Nevirapine'

    Marvin Kitzerow, 'The AIDS Indictment'

    Mohammed Al-Bayati, 'Get all The Facts: HIV does not cause AIDS'

    Joan Shenton, 'Positively False; Exposing the myths around HIV and AIDS'

    Roberto Giraldo, 'AIDS and Stressors'

    John Lauritsen & Ian Young (editors), 'The AIDS Cult: Essays on the gay health crisis'

    Steven Epstein, 'Impure Science; AIDS, activism, and the politics of knowledge'

    Neville Hodgkinson, 'AIDS: The failure of contemporary science'

    Peter Duesberg, 'Inventing the AIDS Virus'

    Peter Duesberg (editor), 'AIDS; Virus or drug induced?'

    Peter Duesberg, 'Infectious AIDS: Have we been misled?'

    Ian Young, 'The Stonewall Experiment; A gay psychohistory'

    Ellinor Burkett, 'The Gravest Show on Earth; America in the age of AIDS'

    Robert Willner, 'Deathly Deception'

    Robert Root-Bernstein, 'Rethinking AIDS; The tragic cost of premature consensus'

    John Lauritsen, 'The AIDS War; Propaganda, profiteering and genocide from the medical-industrial complex'

    John Lauritsen, 'Poison by Prescription; The AZT story'

    Bruce Nussbaum, 'Good Intentions; How big business and the medical establishment are corrupting the fight against AIDS'

    Jad Adams, 'AIDS; The HIV myth'

    Jon Rappoport, 'AIDS Inc.; Scandal of the century'
     
  2. panafrica

    panafrica Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Thank you for this information FiveAlive. Many people on this site, you, River, OldSoul, etc are making me really think about this subject (I was already becoming a skeptic). I'm going to have to do some serious research.
     
  3. OldSoul

    OldSoul Permanent Black Man PREMIUM MEMBER

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    Why no 'Live Aid'?

    If you notice, there is no longer the public (outside of our community) exclaimations about the 'Aids epidemic' in Africa. In fact, the recent Live '8' thing was about 'extreme poverty' in Africa. Why the switch? Because the myths and lies are being exposed in the rest of the world, while we in the u.s. are still caught up in our collective ignorance propagated by the the media and the medical/drug establishment. I'm not saying this to be cruel, but we need to comprehend that the depth of our 'world' ignorance is only outweighed by the height of our 'american' arrogance. We believe that if the white man says it, it must be true, especially when it comes to us. If you dont believe me, ask yourself this question: what area of your life is dictated by the teachings of a Black person who was NOT taught, credentialed or sanctioned by white people? Are your teachings about diet rooted in Black teachings? Is your mathematical teaching rooted in Black teachings? Are your exterior/interior design teachings rooted in Black teachings? Are your child rearing teachings rooted in Black teachings? Are your medical/biological teachings rooted in Black teachings? For most of us, the answer is no. (Many of us will argue that there are no 'Black' teachings in these areas, even though a cursory look across the planet tells us different).
    I'm not arguing that we should practice indiscriminant sex or that we should discount the idea that there are very real conspiracies at work against us on a global level. Quite the contrary, I'm advocating that we learn how to do our own search and re-search, how to analyze and draw conclusions based on a combination of history (including oral knowledge passed from our elders), 'best evidence', logic and our 'first mind'.
     
  4. river

    river Watch Her Flow MEMBER

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    This is all the way live Five Alive. Research and evidence--or in the case of HIV lack of evidence--is key to our survival in a world that would love to see us go out like the Neanderthals.

    There must be something in the water. How you can tell an entire population of people they have a virus that will deplete their immune system then give them immunosuppresant drugs as "treatments" (trick or treatment) and they believe you even though you have a well documented history of deceiving them in this area as well as many others.

    Thanks OldSoul for having the courage to speak a truth that few readily accept because the fear is so deep. Let's keep it up front.
     
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    bigtown Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Regardless of whether it's real or not, I'm keeping my pants zipped up homie. My woman (wife) is the only one for me.
    Monogamy is the key.
     
  6. river

    river Watch Her Flow MEMBER

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    We're not advocating irresponsible sex. The purpose of this expose is to awaken our community to the true causes of AIDS so that we will not be victimized.

    Even if you don't have sex or use needles there is still the possibility that you could need a blood transfusion or organ transplant or any number of things that would make you a target for this pernicious medical fallacy. So this information is important for everyone.
     
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    bigtown Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    O.k. So if you go get tested and it comes back positive, what do you suggest people do?
     
  8. river

    river Watch Her Flow MEMBER

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    Well consider the facts:

    1. There are over sixty different conditions that can render a positive test result including such common ailments as a cold or the flu

    2. No one to date has been able to prove that there is such a virus as HIV causing these ailments which existed long before anyone ever heard of AIDS or HIV

    3. The medication used to "treat" this so-called virus itself causes the sicknesses it is supposed to prevent or at least delay. Plus the medication also causes people to develops fat deposits which increase their risk of heart attack

    In light of those facts what is the purpose of getting tested when a positive could mean any of sixty different things? What besides fear--the same fear that says if you don't believe what we believe you're going to hell--would induce anyone to subject themselves to such needless trauma?
     
  9. kente417mojo

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    Me myself, if I ever got a positive HIV test (and I wouldn't, because I would never waste my time taking a test that can't possibly tell me if I have AIDS) I would throw it away and live my life. Look at it this way, would you rather take toxic medicine that they admit kills poople, or would you opt to live your life without taking toxic medicine....especially since the medicine can't save your life anyways. Why would a person take medicine that's proven toxic....when it won't save their life or make them feel better? What sense does that make? HIV/ AIDS is not killing people...it's ignorance and fear.
     
  10. karmashines

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    Don't take the medicines and use condoms with future partners.
     
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