Black History Culture : HISTORY OF THE AFRICAN-OLMECS: BLACK CIVILIZATIONS OF AMERICA FROM PREHISTORIC TIMES

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  1. sonofGod

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    HISTORY OF THE AFRICAN-OLMECS: BLACK CIVILIZATIONS OF AMERICA FROM PREHISTORIC TIMES TO THE PRESENT ERA
    This world-famous, facinating and wholesome book represents the lost history of African-Americans and Africans in all the Americas before Columbus. This great book contains the truth that has been hidden for hundreds of years. Did you know these facts??

    Black nations, tribes and empires existed in the Americas from Columbia to the Mississippi Valley for thousands of years before Columbus?

    There was a large Black nation called the Wa****aw Nation (also called Caddos or Washo), who were ancient Africans of great height. They built may pyramids in the Mississippi Valley, towns and villages along the Mississippi River and had a great ship-building industry?

    Did you know that the Wa****aw is recognized as a distinct Black Nation of the Americas?

    Did you know that the first Blacks captured and sold into slavery in the Americas came from South America?

    Did you know a Black nation called the Black Californians fought with Spain, Mexico and the U.S. for centuries and blende into the California Black population??

    Did you know that the Olmecs who were Mandinkas from West Africa helped build the first great civilization in Mexico?

    Did you know that not only are reparations owned to Blacks for slavery, but also owed is about one milion square mile of lands that was part of the 'Louisiana Territories," but was Black Wa****aw lands never sold to ayone????

    If you are interested in these and other facts about Blacks of America before Columbus, OR THAT YOU PERSONALLY MAY BE DESCENDED FROM ONE OF THE BLACK AFRICAN -AMERICAN NATIONS, WHOSE LANDS WERE TAKEN IN THE MISSISSIPPI VALLEY, CALIFORNIA OR THE SOUTH-EASTERN STATES get the book, "A History of the African-Olmecs," published by 1stBooks Library, 2595 Vernal Pike, Bloomington, Indiana 47404, U.S.A www.1stbooks.com also at www.barnesandnoble.com

    Read more at http://community.webtv.net/paulnubiaempire
     
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    history of the african-olmecs...

    i can dig it and thanks for the info cause you know it's not gonna be found in the u.s.history books...we probobly can forget about getting any of that land.
     
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    We have much to be proud of! Thanx for sharing our history son of god;)
     
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    I seriously do not believe that the Olmecs (mother of all MesoAmerican civilizations ) was a Black civilization or that there is any serious evidence pointing to this. Blacks were not in the Western hemisphere prior to 1502 when the first African slaves were taken to Hispaniola (DR/Hati). Native Americans/'Amerindians' arrived in the Americas 20-30 000 years ago from Asia, the Olmecs were a "Mongloid" civilization.
     
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    Most interesting information, much of which I find agreeable.

    The one thing I'd call you on though is the use of the prefix "African."

    If I am not mistaken isn't it the Roman word for the Southwesterly wind deity, or the name of a Roman general?

    It would really be ridiculous if you continued to make these arguments all the while calling original peoples' after a directional wind.
     
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    SMH.......

     
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    http://www.latinamericanstudies.org/olmec/las-limas.jpg

    http://www.xmission.com/~hunter/images/olmec.gif

    http://www.designboom.com/history/3_3/5.jpg

    http://www.evertrobles.com/e4.jd.seatedman.jpg

    http://www2.hawaii.edu/~kjolly/151/images/olmecruler.jpg

    None of these statues look like they depicted Black people, to me. A lot of Olmec art depicted were-jaguars (like were-wolves) because they believed they were descended from a jaguar who mated with an Olmec woman.Are were-jaguars real? Art doesn't necessarily reflect reality and those features (lips, nose ) aren't exclusive to Black people. The Olmecs are the parent culture of all MesoAmerican civilizations (it was previously thought to be the Mayans prior to the discovery of the Olmecs) and central Americans don't look Black, did the Mayans mix with the 'Mongloid' settlers now? The Mayan culture comes directly from the Olmec culture, the Mayans are said to be their descendents and they are still living in Mexico and other central American countries. As with our Egypt debate, just because a civilization falls doesn't mean the people vanish.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/1335000/images/_1337859_mayans300.jpg

    -Mayans in Guatemala

    http://www.girlsclubworldwide.org/logs/images/4 mayas at chips-thumb

    -Mayans, I don't know where from

    http://www.cs.brown.edu/courses/cs092/projects/mayans/mayan.gif

    -Mayan statue, like Olmec statues

    http://www.sarah4historyonline.com/images/Other/Ancient Mayan Temples of Chichinitza.jpg

    -Mayan pyramids, like Olmec pyramids

    http://www.anthroarcheart.org/grfx/g63t.JPG

    -Olmec pyramids

    If you really want to claim them, you should know that the Olmecs practiced human sacrifices, including that of infants.

    And there are many Black civilizations to claim including Nubia, Axum (founded by Yemeni settlers who married local African people in Ethiopia) and Abysinnia (an offshoot of Axum that I think started with the Zagwe or Solomonid dynasty, I don't know), the Swahili states, Great Zimbabwe, Kanem-Bornu, ancient Ghana, ancient Mali, Songhay, the Benin kingdom etc. Not to mention original man was Black.
     
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    http://www.latinamericanstudies.org/olmec/las-limas.jpg

    http://www.xmission.com/~hunter/images/olmec.gif

    http://www.designboom.com/history/3_3/5.jpg

    http://www.evertrobles.com/e4.jd.seatedman.jpg

    http://www2.hawaii.edu/~kjolly/151/i...olmecruler.jpg

    None of these statues look like they depicted Black people, to me.You think you're slick a dummy can see those Mongoloid Central Americans look nothing like the Africoid Olmecs here:
    http://www.micahwright.com/olmec/colossal.html


    A lot of Olmec art depicted were-jaguars (like were-wolves) because they believed they were descended from a Jaguar who mated with an Olmec woman.Are were-jaguars real?i've never seen a jaguar with Negroid features, you've been watching a few too many cartons, bruh. Art doesn't necessarily reflect realitySo with all their advanced civilizations, they cerved stone heads of folks whom most of the world considered/considers inferior, ironic! and those features (lips, nose ) aren't exclusive to Black people.are you sure about that? I don't even see dark-brown Indians with those features, not even when they're part Black. The Olmecs are the parent culture of all MesoAmerican civilizations (it was previously thought to be the Mayans prior to the discovery of the Olmecs) and central Americans don't look Black, did the Mayans mix with the 'Mongloid' settlers now?You'll never know. The Mayan culture comes directly from the Olmec culture, the Mayans are said to be their descendents and they are still living in Mexico and other central American countries. As with our Egypt debate, just because a civilization falls doesn't mean the people vanish.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/133500..._mayans300.jpg

    -Mayans in Guatemala

    http://www.girlsclubworldwide.org/lo... chips-thumb

    -Mayans, I don't know where from

    http://www.cs.brown.edu/courses/cs09...yans/mayan.gif

    -Mayan statue, like Olmec statues

    http://www.sarah4historyonline.com/i...hichinitza.jpg

    -Mayan pyramids, like Olmec pyramids

    http://www.anthroarcheart.org/grfx/g63t.JPG

    -Olmec pyramids

    If you really want to claim them, you should know that the Olmecs practiced human sacrifices, including that of infants.And if you want to claim hip-hop as our culture, seeing how you are young, you need to realize they believe in drive-by's and "killin' a n*@@a". Focusing on the negative heresay, eh? :rolleyes:

    And there are many Black civilizations to claim including Nubia, Axum (founded by Yemeni settlers who married local African people in Ethiopia) and Abysinnia (an offshoot of Axum that I think started with the Zagwe or Solomonid dynasty, I don't know), the Swahili states, Great Zimbabwe,Kanem-Bornu, ancient Ghana, ancient Mali, Songhay, the Benin kingdom etc
     
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    My point was that art does not necessarily reflect reality, they're stone head statues, the ancient Olmecs didn't have bodies? I only pointed out the were-jaguar statues as an example that art doesn't necessarily depict real life.

    Does the entire arguement for the Olmecs as a Black civilization lie exclusively in something as subjective and abstract as 'the statues looked like West Africans'?
     
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    I'm sure, and also heard, those statues were set upon the shores etc. to ward off invaders. Blacks have always mixed agreeingly with Native Americans. So the invaders weren't Blacks, thus placing Blacks right there in that region, comfortably with the Native Americans..Mayas...Incas...Aztecs.

    To answer your second question: Yes. What else is there to draw from except the faces of the Olmecs. Isn't that the typical way one identify someones race; their facial features??? Most artists depict art in their own image, just as Michelangelo made the image of Jesus a whiteman after his relative. What culture in world history depicts their art in the image of another people? That would spell an inferiority complex.Those Native Americans had much to be proud of, unless of course they worshipped the Negroid look as some form of GOD!! Either way, we were held in high esteems. Honestly what other race on earth possesses those features? Do you look remotely like those statues? Your family? Provide some links of Native Americans ancient or modern, who look similar to those Olmecs. When you're done doing that, provide some links of Black Africans who look similar to Olmecs here:
    http://www.micahwright.com/olmec/colossal.html

    :)
     
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