Black Spirituality Religion : History and Practice

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  1. river

    river Watch Her Flow MEMBER

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    Most people who celebrate Christmas are ignorant of its history. Those who do know something about the so-called pagan celebrations surrounding Decembber 25 are told to excuse this as the early church's efforts to protect itself from persecution. Even when they find out that the early church did not celebrate Christmas at all but it was the so-called pagans who chose that date many christians will still continue to celebrate this holiday because of what it has come to mean to them.

    Should the history of a holiday affect the way we view it today? Can we celebrate one thing when it was historically associated with something else?
     
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    Dual Karnayn Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Like you said in another thread, ignorance is bliss for many people.
    I personally believe it should be left up to the individual what they want to celebrate. Most people aren't celebrating the religious aspect of it anyway but the days off from school/work they get and the time they spend with friends and relatives.


    But today Christmas isn't being pushed by the largley secular population so much as it's being pushed by the corporate world who makes it's largest profits off of consumers this time of year.

    In the Anglo-Western culture, people are buying more gifts and liquor this time of year than at any other so it's excellent for big business.
     
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    Pagan=Illegitimate Worship??......

    We need to take caution to what is considered Pagan. Many of OUR ancient rituals were considered Pagan by Western standards also. I'm not necessarily hinting on Christmas not being an illegitimate Holiday. The Western mind has to be thoroughly scrutinized in order to understand anything involving DEPTH/Spirituality, with exception of the 'massive great awakening'. The psychological damage is ingrained way deep into our psyches, thanks to modern 'philosophers', and religious scholars who never had OUR interests at heart. Living in the "Age Of Deceit", I sometimes feel the need to second guess every bit of information. JMHO
     
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    Lol.....

    What about "polytheist" and "heathen"....are these terms ever acceptable?
     
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    Dual Karnayn...

    Dunno.........you gotta tell me that Mr. Public Enema..lol. Reach into your stew pot of magic, and pull out the Karnayn potion. There are TWO sides to every story:look:
     
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    Dual Karnayn Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Lol....
    Who do I look like Miles Davis?
    .....I ain't working with no "b/witches brew" of voodoo.

    When I see somebody working out of that bag, I turn and go in the other direction.

    I'm not sure what heathen means...I may have to ask aunt Ester.
    But "polytheist" only means worshipping more than one god.
    That shouldn't be an insult to those who do.
     
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    I dig what you're saying. And I'm leaning more towards letting it go cuz that's better than getting mad everytime someone says "Merry Christmas."
     
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    A heathen is a berserk person gone wild-insane, no morals.....etc. Africans as being brought to the Americas were considered heathen based on our own spiritual stance. I know it is a very bad term, my father called us heathens when we messed up big time:(
     
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    And what do you call people who worship money? moneytheist?
     
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    River...

    LMAO.....golddiggers....fools :nono:
     
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