Black People Politics : Hillary Uses Birther Reminder in Tweet Against Trump

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    Hillary Clinton Just Wants to Remind You: Donald Trump Was a Birther

    She called out something he said exactly four years ago

    In case anyone forgot, Hillary Clinton sought to remind voters Saturday: Donald Trump was once the most famous of the “birthers.”

    Clinton used a brief Twitter message to draw attention to her Republican rival’s past as a vocal proponent of the oft-debunked conspiracy theory that President Obama was not born in the United States. She tweeted one of Trump’s own Twitter posts from four years ago.

    “An ‘extremely credible source’ has called my office and told me that @BarackObama’s birth certificate is a fraud,” Trump said on Aug. 6, 2012.

    Clinton, in bringing the tweet back to life, said simply: “Four years ago today.”


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    http://time.com/4442080/hillary-clinton-donald-trump-birther


    Maybe someone should also remind these people, that some of us are bored of the twitter debates from surrogates. When will these two trolls debate each other on their reality tv series this season?

    And as for the surrogate that is using Hillary's twitter account to post for her...

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    Source:

    Penn Strategy Memo, March 19, 2007
    Mark Penn's campaign strategy for Hillary Clinton against Barack Obama including potential attacks.

    www.scribd.com/doc/4097983/Penn-Strategy-Memo-3-19-07






    Lawsuit questions Obama’s eligibility for office
    August 28, 2008

    Pennsylvania’s former deputy attorney general and Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton supporter Philip J. Berg has filed a lawsuit in federal court in Pennsylvania accusing presumptive Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Barack Obama of lying about his U.S. citizenship, which would make him ineligible to be president.

    Mr. Berg is one of a faction of Clinton supporters who haven’t heeded the party’s call for unity, filing the suit just days before the opening of the Democratic National Convention, which will nominate Mr. Obama as the party’s presidential candidate.

    The suit, filed in U.S. District Court in Philadelphia last week, also names the Democratic National Committee and the Federal Election Commission and says Mr. Obama´s mother went to Kenya late in her pregnancy and ended up giving birth there. It also claims that later in life, Mr. Obama declared himself a citizen of Indonesia.​

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    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/aug/28/lawsuit-questions-obamas-eligibility-for-office/




     
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    Being that Obama has only 5 months left, might as well have some fun with this to see what all the fuss was about. I actually ignored it, as politricks is often a mix of half-truths, embellishments, misdirection, cover-ups, conspiracy theories, and out right lies to either smear another or create a distraction.

    But here, let's play around with this for the sake of the mind...



    CNN investigation: Obama born in U.S.


    http://www.cnn.com/2011/POLITICS/04/25/birthers.obama.hawaii/

    CNN claimed this was the computer generated certificate, proving he was born in Hawaii...

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    "Original documents are no longer even certified by the state. The Health Department says pResident"

    So then let's look at what was offered soon after the claim was made that this computer generated document above was the only one that could be provided...

    Which one is the fake/forge whatever, and which one is real?

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    https://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/rss_viewer/birth-certificate-long-form.pdf


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    http://www.thepowerhour.com/news4/obama_kenyan_birth_certificate.htm


    This mish mash of confusion is probably due to the possibility that there is no physical birth certificate, was not one, or cannot be completely verified outside of images of newspapers excerpts.

    Can be interesting to see how history cannot really be proven, even if we believe what happened, happened or not.

    More on this in the next posts...
     
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    To add to more of the "funny"...

    From 2006:

    "Very rarely have I met a more impressive person than Tammy Duckworth," said Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., in an article the day before she announced her candidacy Dec. 18. "She just has the poise and exudes the type of character that I think would make her an astounding public servant."

    Duckworth is happy to point out that she and Hawai'i-raised Punahou graduate Obama have "a kama'aina connection."

    Both were born outside the country — Obama in Indonesia, Duckworth in Thailand — and graduated from high school in Honolulu — Punahou and McKinley, respectively.


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    https://web.archive.org/web/2006020...r.com/article/2006/Jan/08/ln/FP601080334.html

    The article later removed the last line, presumably added "in error".

    Serious error, glad they decided to remove it so nobody would have these crazy and wild theories that come out of nowhere.
     
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    The article retained that line from 2006, until the questions began to arise. In 2009, the article was updated to remove the passage.

    February 7, 2006

    https://web.archive.org/web/2006020...r.com/article/2006/Jan/08/ln/FP601080334.html

    October 4, 2009


    https://web.archive.org/web/2009100...r.com/article/2006/Jan/08/ln/FP601080334.html

    November 25, 2009

    https://web.archive.org/web/2009112...r.com/article/2006/Jan/08/ln/FP601080334.html

    Images that will be shared soon add even more "funny" to the story.
    Many writing about it back then did not get it "right", and probably still are not getting it "right" now.
     
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    In 1965, Dunham married Lolo Soetoro, a University of Hawaii student from Indonesia. A year later, the family moved to Jakarta, Indonesia, where Obama's half-sister, Maya Soetoro Ng, was born in 1970. Several incidents in Indonesia left Dunham afraid for her son's safety and education so, at the age of 10, Obama was sent back to Hawaii to live with his maternal grandparents. His mother and half-sister later joined them.
    http://www.biography.com/people/barack-obama-12782369#early-life



    EARLY YEARS

    Barack Obama was born in Honolulu, Hawai‘i on August 4, 1961. His father was an economist from Kenya and his mother a Kansas-born university student. At 10, Obama enrolled as a fifth-grade student at Punahou School after living in Indonesia for four years. His mother, Stanley Ann Dunham Soetoro, decided to send her son back to Honolulu so that he could attend Punahou School, known for its rigorous academic curriculum.

    Source:
    http://www.punahou.edu/alumni/news/alumni-profiles/barack-obama/index.aspx

    1967
    In October 1967, Dunham and her six-year-old son moved to Jakarta to rejoin her husband. Jakarta, Indonesia is Lolo's hometown. For two and a half years Soetoro, his wife and stepson lived in a new modest stucco and red tile house in a newly-built neighborhood in the Menteng Dalam administrative village of the Tebet subdistrict in South Jakarta. Soetoro owned a new Japanese motorcycle.

    Soetoro likely adopted Obama, whose name is changed to Barry Soetoro. Elementary school records in Indonesia list Obama's name as Barry Soetoro, his religion as Islam, and his citizenship as Indonesian. Obama attends Franciscus Primary School (1967-1969) and Besuki State Elementary School Menteng 01 in Jakarta (1969-1971).

    Source:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lolo_Soetoro

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    But there is this photo supposedly taken of Obama and a classmate from Hawaii in 1969
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    A former Manoa resident sent President Barack Obama an old photo of the two of them taken while they were third-grade classmates at Noelani Elementary School, requesting an autograph more than six months ago. He recently received the autographed picture back, as well as a personally signed thank-you note.

    Scott Inoue, now a chiropractor in Stockton, Calif., said the small, black-and-white photo had been stashed away for almost 40 years at his childhood home in Manoa. For some reason, Inoue said, as he was growing up he always remembered that photo and wondered what became of “Barry.”

    Source:
    https://theobamadiary.com/2009/12/29/scott-barry-3rd-grade-1969/

    I have been trying to figure out what this was about, and came across this article that seemingly was confused just the same.

    Another Obama puzzle: 3rd grade in 2 countries?
    http://www.wnd.com/2010/08/188801

    This adds more mystery to the backstory, but nothing more or less than already was revealed in his book.

    These layers of material below, also give decent credibility to those that think it was absurd to question if Obama was a natural born US citizen...

    www.scribd.com/document/35192432/Allen-v-USCIS-DHS-FOIA-Release-Lolo-Soetoro-Obama-s-step-Father-U-S-Records-7-29-10

    Even in the attempt to discredit his citizenship, it seems this release of documents does just the opposite.



    But will get to the main substance of "what was the fuss" when it came to the supposed birth certificate debate in the next post.
     
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    Harold Ford Jr.'s expression was nothing less than one of embarrassment







    And she's back!


    Interesting, Hillary claims credit for creating the rise of Trump?

    And now you have this show...


    The optics of this are cringe worthy.
     
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    Basically saying this...
     
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    The Madrassa Myth
    June 14, 2005

    WASHINGTON - IT is one of the widespread assumptions of the war on terrorism that the Muslim religious schools known as madrassas, catering to families that are often poor, are graduating students who become terrorists. Last year, Secretary of State Colin L. Powell denounced madrassas in Pakistan and several other countries as breeding grounds for "fundamentalists and terrorists." A year earlier, Secretary of Defense Donald H. Rumsfeld had queried in a leaked memorandum, "Are we capturing, killing or deterring and dissuading more terrorists every day than the madrassas and the radical clerics are recruiting, training and deploying against us?"​

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    Bob Kerrey discusses leadership
    October 30, 2007

    "I love that his name is Barack Hussein Obama; that he was educated for a while in a secular madrassa. He can speak like no other candidate to a billion Muslims on this earth and say we’re not your enemy unless you make us so."​

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    http://www.economist.com/blogs/democracyinamerica/2007/10/bob_kerrey_discusses_leadershi


    'Hardball with Chris Matthews' for Dec. 18
    December 19, 2007

    BOB KERREY (D), FORMER U.S. SENATOR: There is a smear campaign going on. And people acting as if he‘s an Islamic “Manchurian Candidate.” And I feel it‘s actually a substantial strength.

    He is a Christian. Both he and his family are Christians. They have chosen Christianity. But that connection to Indonesia and a billion Muslims on this Earth, I think, is a real strength, and add an awful—a lot of value in his foreign policy efforts.

    I have told Barack Obama, when I have met with him—it‘s something that I have spoken about before, so this is not something that just sort of came out of the head-birth out there in Iowa. I thought about it a great deal. I have—I have watched the blogs try to say that—that you can‘t trust him because he spent a little bit of time in a secular madrassa.​

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    http://www.nbcnews.com/id/22326842/..._chris_matthews/t/hardball-chris-matthews-dec




    Kerrey Says Obama Attended A Secular Madrasa
    December 17, 2007

    Former senator Bob Kerrey, who recently endorsed Sen. Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign, said during a television appearance on Monday that her primary opponent, Sen, Barack Obama, attended a “secular madrassa” as a child.

    Kerrey was in the process of lauding Obama’s capacity to connect with the Muslim world when he made the claim, which has been discredited.​

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    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2007/12/17/kerrey-says-obama-attende_n_77209.html





    Still find it interesting how easy people can get trolled by these politricksters.
    :popcorn1:
     
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    He is leaving in four months... who cares now?
    Though it is interesting, if anything, to see some still get agitated about this topic.

    But for those that do, this thread is open for responses
     
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