Black People : Heterosexual Interracial Couples 2002

Discussion in 'Black People Open Forum' started by Nia Maishani, Jan 3, 2002.

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What was the most common interracial combination you recorded?

  1. Black female/non-American male

    2 vote(s)
    7.1%
  2. Black male/non-American female

    3 vote(s)
    10.7%
  3. Black female/white male

    4 vote(s)
    14.3%
  4. Black male/white female

    18 vote(s)
    64.3%
  5. Other (please specify in notes)

    2 vote(s)
    7.1%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. Nia Maishani

    Nia Maishani Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Hey all,

    A recent debate in Destee forums prompted me to start a poll, and request that Destee members help me out in my conducting this study. It is very simple. I am requesting that you take at least one whole day, and simply make a mental (or even written) record of the variations of interracial couples you notice in your area during the average day.

    If you see a male and female together anyplace who are clearly "together" in that public place, office, on the street, wherever, regardless of whether you are certain they are a couple, note them as a couple, and report the results of what you see on an average day. That's right, we are taking our own census here, which in my opinion, would be most reliable.

    Thank you for your participation. Poll will run one month.
     
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    hummmmm!!

    looking round from above :look: i'll get back
     
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    In the field that I am in, I see hundreds of interracial couples. I must say that most of the brothas are doing most of the crossing over but far more sistahs who cross over are actually marrying. What concerns me is the bashing going on between them. If a sistah or a brotha wants to cross over, that's their business (but they should do it for love and NOT color) and their children will play a very important role
    in helping to deaden the effects of racism and help eliminate a
    majority race syndrome.
    Most of the brothas who crossover here in NW Florida are either shacking or playing the white sistahs. There are also several younger black men with older white women who feed and provide for them...this to me is very sad. The vast majority of white women here with mixed children have no brotha in the home as husband. This is not good, because the children grow up many times, not knowing how to relate to black people of whom they are.
     
  4. Nia Maishani

    Nia Maishani Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Thank you for replying to this, Joyce. I forgot all about the thread. I see from the results that it seems the black male/white female coupling is most common according to most observations, followed by black female/white male. During the time that I was making a conscious note of the couplings, I did in fact notice that more black females are "crossing over" than I had really noticed before, though still not as commonly as black males.

    The fact that the black women tend to actually marry when they cross over (more often than black males) says to me that they are crossing over for love more often, as opposed to black males (what's their reason, if not love?).

    If I might address one comment made by Joyce, I agree to an extent that "their children will play a very important role
    in helping to deaden the effects of racism and help eliminate a
    majority race syndrome." On the one hand, they do play a role in doing such, but they also incidentally play a role in potentially helping to perpetuate racism (white supremacy/black subjugation). How so? Being that most biracial children look neither clearly "black" nor clearly "white", when seen, the issue of race difference inevitably comes to mind. That's one part of it. Because black people and white people are literally "like night and day" physically, when you see them together, the difference is evident, whether you want to be "color-blind" or not. It's like if you see a very obese person paired with a very thin person. It's noticeable whether you wish to notice or not.

    The other thing is that many people, accept it or not, pair with opposite race partners for the sake of being with the opposite race (or for the sake of not being with one's own race). That situation perpetuates racism, regardless of the race of the person with the poor intentions. When a child is born in such a context, racism is perpetuated through that child. For example, black female prefers white men (I have a cousin who fits this example). She thinks white is superior. She bears half-white children. She teaches those children (even if not blatantly) that they are "prettier", better, etc. because they are a bit less black than other black children. Hence, racism perpetuated through the child. Much of society (particularly many black folk) fawns over the appearance of the child, who does not look as Afrikhan as he/she would without the diluted blood. Hence, racism perpetuated through the child. It depends greatly on what type of parents are rearing the child. If the parent(s) fail(s) to teach that child to embrace his/her Afrikhan ancestry, Afrikhan homeland and Afrikhan phenotype AT LEAST AS EQUALLY as that child will be taught to embrace his/her european ancestry, american soil, and european phenotype, then racism will be perpetuated through that child against him/herself and against others of non-anglo-saxon ancestry.
     
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    Yes I agree and I believe I touched upon this with this statement:
    The vast majority of white women here with mixed children have no brotha in the home as husband. This is not good, because the children grow up many times, not knowing how to relate to black people of whom they are.

    End of quote.

    I feel however, that this (interracial issue) is not what we should be concerning ourselves with. Whether brotha or sistahs cross over for love or color or both is their business. We as a race, have more pressing issues such as AIDS, abortion, black on black crime and (fact...in Florida, we have more black men in prison than we do in the population) prison and drugs. In fact, less than twenty percent of the brothas crossover. The sistahs still have the majority underneath their wings. I think the heat is high on this issue because fewer sisters are not actually getting the type of man, they really want and then when they see a white woman with a brotha, they don't like it. But, many times they don't know what that white woman is willing to "put up" with in order to keep that brotha happy. Trust me, you'd be surprised most time.

    Personally, I think if we as a people, increase our energies in dealing with the other issues above, then this will ultimately produce a better people for a better black community.
     
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    Joyce i agree black on black crime at a new high
    and aids in a random fast past life has taken it's turn
    all i know is what i am and what i will do ...................
     
  7. Nia Maishani

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    The Fact is.....

    The problem of "crossing over" is interrelated to those other problems you mentioned. Crossing is intimately, intricately related to racism and to disunity among people of Afrikhan ancestry and to the disintigration of the black family.

    Ebony males are contracting HIV/AIDS at a far higher rate than Ebony females, yet it is easier for a FEMALE to contract. Think about that. The most common method of infection is by far sexually, not intravenously. What does that tell us? THEY ARE NOT CONTRACTING IT FROM EBONY FEMALES. They are contracting it most often from white females and from other males. THAT is an issue to be dealt with.
     
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    You said:
    . The most common method of infection is by far sexually, not intravenously. What does that tell us? THEY ARE NOT CONTRACTING IT FROM EBONY FEMALES. They are contracting it most often from white females and from other males.
    end.

    I agree that contact is most likely by sexual activity. However, I have not seen any statistics basing it mainly upon their contact with white females.

    I am only aware of the serious practice among many brothas, termed as "down low" . This practice has been heavily blamed for the reason so many black females have the disease. This is where a brotha accepts money (or does it for free) to give
    anal sex to a homosexual...secretly. But openly, he is a heterosexual...not revealing that he will go both ways if the money is right. In fact, he doesn't consider himself to be bisexual.

    While "crossing over" is not embraced by most sistahs, it is not (in my opinion) going to disintegrate the black community. Black men can have any race of female he wants, but BY FAR he still chooses a sistah more often. If the black community is breaking down (which we are beginning to rise up), it is from moral standpoints and not "crossing over". Abortion, AIDS, drugs, black on black homicide, porn on TV, music and the internet and on and on and on. Read what one black woman has observed concerned an issue which has the stongest chance of putting a serious dent, over time, in the black community:

    Erma Clardy Craven, Social Worker and Civil Rights Leader:

    "Several years ago, when 17,000 aborted babies were found in a dumpster outside a pathology laboratory in Los Angeles, California, some 12-15,000 were observed to be black. Wake up America, and relive Dr. Martin Luther King's Dream! The way of abortion is the way back into bondage!"

    Source:http://www.prolifeinfo.org/upl10.html

    Short (fact filled) Essay On The Serious Problem Of "Down Low".
     
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    "Ebony males are contracting HIV/AIDS at a far higher rate than Ebony females"

    other way around, IR's are putrid and I notice people are once again pushing the whole "date outside your race you dont know what you're missing" crap to make it seem like black/black unions are rare or unable to work. A person once told me that his friend was called a racist because he was with a black woman! lol silly, but anywho onto the poll, up here i would say it's a tie between black males and white/asian/NA women and black women with white/white hispanic males. but white male asian women lead by landslide.
     
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    Black men are not dating out enough to say they're getting it from white females, especially when stats show AIDS/HIV is not as much of a problem in the white community.

    I think black men are getting it from drugs, sexual activity with men (whether it's on the down-low or being raped in prison), and black women who have also done drugs and/or had sex with HIV positive men.

    Either way, if you have sex and you're not married USE A CONDOM! It doesn't matter the race, gender, or sexual preference of your partner.
     
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