Black People : Henry Louis Gates, arrested for entering his OWN HOUSE????????

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  1. Putney Swope

    Putney Swope Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Probably no Black man in America, acts more "like he is free" then Henry Louis Gates , because he can back that stance and ideology with scholarship and historical evidence, however that did not save him
    from the attack of White Supremacy.
    Brother was arrested for giggling his keys in the lock of his home door which was jammed,
    and when he told the offocer that arrested him that this was racism, he was arrested also for disorderly conduct.

    NYT article;July 21, 2009

    Harvard Professor Jailed; Officer Is Accused of Bias
    By ABBY GOODNOUGH

    CAMBRIDGE, Mass. — Colleagues of Henry Louis Gates Jr., Harvard’s most prominent scholar of African-American history, are accusing the police here of racism after he was arrested at his home last week by an officer investigating a report of a robbery in progress.

    Professor Gates, who has taught at Harvard for nearly two decades, arrived home on Thursday from a trip to China to find his front door jammed, said Charles J. Ogletree, a law professor at Harvard who is representing him.

    He forced the door open with the help of his cab driver, Professor Ogletree said, and had been inside for a few minutes when Sgt. James Crowley of the Cambridge Police Department appeared at his door and asked him to step outside.

    Professor Gates, 58, refused to do so, Professor Ogletree said. From that point, the account of the professor and the police began to differ.

    According to his lawyer, Professor Gates told the sergeant that he lived there and showed his Massachusetts driver’s license and his Harvard identification card, but Sergeant Crowley still did not seem to believe that Professor Gates lived in the home, a few blocks from Harvard Square. At that point, his lawyer said, Professor Gates grew frustrated and asked for the officer’s name and badge number.

    full article:
    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/21/us/21gates.html?_r=1&pagewanted=print
     
  2. chuck

    chuck Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    And of course the cop said that 'we all look alike' too!

    But, seriously, some of the people being hired for that sort of position these days isn't the brightest folk in our midst, and to say the least, ignorance ain't 'bliss' with when it comes to that either, particularly during times like these...

    I. e., another case study of homeland (in)security, ala 2009!

    Duh...

    Ouch...

    Sigh...

    Ahem...

    CTJ


     
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    In the Spirit of Sankofa!




    Brother Putney,

    This is the epitome of racial profiling, to say the least. Gates and Ogleetree will prevail against the Cambridge police department. With Gates's involvement and stance concerning Mt DNA, the Genome Project, etc...I fully understand why he was accosted by the white sergeant...The time has come.

     
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    Dr. Clarke's response to Henry louis Gates "Black Demagogues and Pseudo-Scholars"

    In reference to the OP-ED of Henry Louis Gates Jr. the New York Times (Monday, July 20, 1992), entitled "Black Demagogues and Pseudo-Scholars," I am raising the following questions: At once, I questioned the title of Professor Gates' article. He should never refer to anyone as a demagogue unless he's ready to call the names of the demagogues, singular or plural, and point out the nature of their demagoguery. He should never refer to any scholar as being pseudo, unless he is ready to name the scholar and prove the pseudo nature of his or her work. To disagree with a scholar does not make the scholar a demagogue.

    Most of the old and new Black scholars asking for a total reconsideration of African history, in particular, and world history, in general, are using neglected documents by radical White Scholars who are generally neglected by the White academic community.

    In African history I am referring to scholars like Gerald Massey and his work, Egypt, Light of the World, (two volumes), The Book of the Beginnings, (two volumes) and Natural Genesis, (two volumes).

    I am also referring to Gerald Massey's greatest English disciple, Albert Churchward, whose book, The Signs and Symbols of Primordial Man, asks for a reconsideration of the role of people outside of Europe and their role in human development.

    Your attention should also be called to the work, Anacalypsis, two volumes by Godfrey Higgins, published in 1837. These books deal with the dispersions of African people throughout the world.

    Many of these Black scholars, whose work Professor Gates questioned, were reading works by Whites in French, German and other languages that spoke positively about African American achievement long before Mr. Gates' parents were born.

    This school of Black scholars are neither demagogues nor are they pseudos; they are the forerunners of the present propagators of Afrocentricity. They know what Professor Gates doesn't seem to know: that African people are the most written about and the least understood people in the world.

    If Professor Gates has not read the works of the White pioneer scholars about the role of African people in world history, it stands to reason that he has no understanding of the senior Black scholars such as Yosef ben-Jochannan, John G. Jackson, Cheikh Anta Diop, Jacob Carruthers, Chancellor Williams, Lao Hansberry and myself.

    Professor Gates' reference to Black anti-Semitism is an exaggeration. A new Black awareness is causing Blacks, young and old, to question everything that has any influence on their lives. We are realizing that Jewish people have an influence on our lives far out of proportion to their numbers in the population. I totally disagree with Professor Gates that anti-Semitism among Whites is on the wane in the country. Quite the contrary, I think it is increasing in this country and in the world, and Black people are not the cause of it.

    What you have in this new charge of Black and Semitism against Blacks is the most pathetic of all tragedies, a scapegoat looking for a scapegoat. Because of Black Americans' reading or misreading of the Bible, we have always had a sentimental attachment to Jewish people and, to a large extent, most of us still do. During slavery, we wanted to attach ourselves to a people who had escaped from bondage. So, the Exodus story in the Bible became more real to us than to the Jewish people. Right now, in a large number of Black Baptist churches, you can get a large number of the congregation to shed real tears of sympathy over the three Hebrew boys in the fiery furnace. Most of them dare not question whether this is folklore or fact.

    There are well over 300 organized White hate groups in the United States. I know of no overt attacks by the Jews being made on any of them. Yet, Jewish people have attacked Louis Farrakhan more than they have attacked the leaders of the Aryan Nation or the American Nazi Party. Are the Jews in America looking for an easy victory or the Truth? Black Americans have never been their enemy. And they, the Jews, have never been our friends unless it was to their convenience. Neo-Nazism has fully re-emerged in Germany and in other states in Europe. These are people with a nation structure and armies. Why is it that a group of weak Black Americans are getting more attention from the Jews than these powerful White forces rising against them?

    I'm sorry that Professor Cornell West saw fit to make a statement about this false charge of Black anti-Semitism. I could agree with his statement if the statement were true. What Black people are realizing in this country, in the Caribbean Islands and in Africa is that the Jewish people, of European descent, are a part of the world apparatus of European control. And, in the matter of White control over the world, their position is no different than that of other Europeans. I am not saying that the Jews of Europe are more bent on world dominance than other Europeans; I am saying that they are not radically different from other Europeans in this regard. Internal disputes between the Jews and other Europeans is a form of European domestic racism. European racism has spent itself out outside of Europe. During the Nazi regime in Germany, that racism turned inward on itself and created what is referred to as The Holocaust. This was a problem started in Europe by Europeans that should have been resolved in Europe by Europeans.

    Repeatedly I have said that Europeans are geniuses at draining the diseased pus of their political sores on the lands of other people. What is now being called anti Semitism among a newly awakened Black intellectual class is that they are beginning to look at the people referred to as Jews as part of the totality of European world dominance. We are not saying that the European who is a Jew is any more of an imperialist than any other of the Europeans, but that he is basically the same. We are not saying that the role of the Jews in the slave trade was any different then any other Europeans, but that it was basically the same. When they saw the opportunity to make money in the slave trade, they took advantage of this opportunity the same as other Europeans in the same business.

    I do not choose to deal with Jesse Jackson's opportunistic appearances at the World Jewish Congress and the statements that he made. Jesse Jackson has his own agenda that is unrelated to the Liberation Movement of his own people. He was catering to his Jewish audiences for reasons unrelated to Black people and their liberation movements.

    Black people are becoming increasingly conscious of people who exploit their community and hold them in contempt. We make no exceptions when these exploiters are non-European.

    In referring to present-day anti-Semitism and the attempt to trace it to having roots in Christianity, Professor Gates shows his lack of understanding of the manifestation of Christianity among American Blacks and how that interpretation of this religion is part of their humanity. Their interpretation, in no way, relates to anti-Semitism.

    I wonder if Professor Gates would explain the words in the Negro spiritual:

    Continued...

    http://www.africawithin.com/clarke/clarke_response.htm
     
  5. autumn

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    I read this article this morning and although I am dismayed by the police action, I am not surprised. Sadly, Henry Louis Gates acknowledges his Blackness when it is convient. Apparently, marring a white women does not hold the same status & protection that it used to, despite being employed at one of the most prestigious institutions in America.
     
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    This is what happens when you try to do like the white man rather than stay in our own communities. There are lovely affluent Black neighborhoods that he could live in. But he chose to live there. I'm not saying he shouldn't live where he wants, but when Black folks try to emmulate them they get hurt. He is getting what he wanted.
     
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    Some really good points here. But Gates was a victim of the following:

    Cops can care less about negros, arrest or shot us, and a cop can be a hero!
     
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    :SuN049:

    I am not sure what else "Black" folks expect.
     
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    I highly doubt that this is what he wanted, as you say....

    But what I wonder, is was he soo new to the area, that the person who called the police did not recognize him, or was it more the fact that this was all just what friendly neighbors do for one another?

    I tend to think that whoever saw him pushing against his door, probably knew who he was, but wanted to be sure...

    But even if that was the case, that Brother should have known that the entire ordeal on his part was suspect, and giving the investigating officer his cooperation, would have kept this incident under wraps...

    one thing too, is that once he explained what was going on, and showed his right to be in the residence, how was is that he became arrested?

    what more proof did the officer need, other than maybe the officer was thinking that this was a possible domestic violence situation in the works, but which I doubt the officer even took into thought at the time,...

    bottom line?

    he (Gates) could have and should have handled the situation better...

    what then, if there was really someone breaking into his home, and neighbors did nothing?
     
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    yes, and because of this... in the future our Brother would be wise to acknowledge this...

    We do not need any more brilliant men, taken from us, or brought down by the hands of trigger- happy cowards.....
     
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