Black Spirituality Religion : He Swore He would Come Back...in 4 Years...;Think About It!...

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  1. Chevron Dove

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    A Time, and Times and a half of Time = 2500 years [DANIEL 7:25 & DANIEL 12:6-7]


    488 B.C. + 1000 = A.D. 512
    A.D. 512 + 1000 = A.D. 1512
    A.D. 1512 + 500 = *************A.D. 2012

    2009 + 4 Years = 2012

    *************And What was going on in the year 488 B.C.?***************


    In 488 B.C. according to the Bible timeline, it was the 1st year of the rule of king Belshazzar in present day Iraq [Babylon]. Belshazzar was so evil that many people (including many Israelites of the Diaspora) fled the Mediterranean world and eventually some came all the way over to ‘the New World’ to become apart of the Black Native experiences [a time, and times and a half of time; REVELATIONS 12:14]. According to modern day scholars and the Bible [kjv], the Greeks were in conflict with the Persians and a couple of years earlier in 490 B.C., the Battle of Marathon had occurred. Xerxes I (the Biblical Artaxerxes I/Ahaseurus) headed up that conflict as well as the later one. Daniel wrote that Jesus [the Ancient of Days] said that he would return ‘at the end of the world’ to pass world judgment. Jesus later lifted up his hands and swore by God, the Creator, that he would come back to judge the world. During the rule of the Chaldeans [Blacks] of Babylon, they were having trouble with the Persians. Belshazzar was later slain by the Medo-Persians. In 475 B.C., the same year that Belshazzar was slain, Cyrus-the-great, the ruler of the Persian system in Babylon made a written decree and many Jews were allowed to journey back to Jerusalem ending a 70 year period of captivity. However, Daniel was not permitted to return. He stayed under Persian rule. Xerxes I, the king of kings, put a stop to Cyrus’ decree that next year and the construction of the temple of God was also halted. After Xerxes later married Queen Esther and his son, Darius, took over rule in Babylon at the age of 62, the temple of God was eventually completed. Xerxes heeded and also sent gifts to the dedication of the temple of God. Like the Book of Daniel also detailed, the Persian Empire was overthrown byway of the Greeks under Alexander-the-great. This occurred in 332 B.C. Alexander did not have any heirs to continue a dynasty just as it was prophesized and after he died, the Greek system split up into four systems. The four-system Greek Empire would remain dominant until the rise of the Roman Empire. The Roman Empire was marked by the advent of the new moving star, the Star of Bethlehem [the Sapphire Star].

    The unit ‘time’ means 1000 year increments. This is also confirmed in the very name of Daniel. For the name Daniel means ‘a summation or judgment in 1000 year increments’. King David’s son named Daniel [Chileab] from his wife Abigail was born in the year 1000 B.C.


    (1) [1 Time] --* 488 BC + 1000 years = A.D. 512
    ***************What was going on in the year A.D. 512? *************

    It was a thousand years after Daniel wrote about that prophesy and the Roman Empire had come and gone! Even more amazing, Jesus Christ had also come in the flesh, ended the Daily Sacrifice to the Jewish temple and left the earth! After Jesus was sacrifice, there was no need to sacrifice lambs every year at PASSOVER or any other sacrifices. Jesus was the spotless lamb. The Roman Empire had the temple of the Jews destroyed and in its place, they eventually built up the temple of Jupiter [Capitoline]. They also built up a temple for Afrodite in that area. The Jews revolted against the Roman system and they lost their struggle in the A.D. 100s. The Romans drove all the Jews out and changed the name of Judaea to become known as Palestine. From then on the Jews were outlawed from even entering in Jerusalem. The days, weeks, months and years of making sacrifices to the temple in Jerusalem became obsolete. Hundreds of years later in A.D. 433, the Huns overthrew the Roman system and by A.D. 476, the Coliseum stopped having exhibitions. By the AD 500s, the Roman Empire split into two systems but, they were no more an empire system.

    (2) [Another Time] -- *AD 512 + 1000 years = AD 1512
    ****************What was going on in the year AD 1512? *************

    It was now two thousand years after Daniel wrote about that prophesy and Christopher Columbus had already set sail for the New World in AD 1492. The Spanish system was organized and obsessed over having trade power in the Americas. By 1512, Europeans had already committed inhuman abominations against the aboriginal natives in the Americas. De Soto and Cortez became infamous. But, they were initially held in high esteem by the straight hairs because they thought of them as gods of whom had come to kill off their enemies. The pictures presented in our history books are mostly of straight haired, brown and lighter skinned natives but, the real victims were millions of ‘Black Indians’. In Europe and the Old World, a major propaganda went out against ‘the Infidels’ which were Black people and eventually the negative slogan did just what happened back in the days of the Crusades. It launched a Genocide against black people but this time it was even worse than in the Crusades. The term ‘Infidel’ was a name that was suggested to be against ‘the non-Christians’ but in fact, it was aimed at Black people and not other kinds of people of whom were also ‘non-Christians’. After about a hundred years of Black Genocide attempt, slavery evolved to become a norm. In AD 1776, the English who gained dominance in North America and world trade, Separated from Christianity [the Church] and began ‘the Vote system’, the same system in the Roman Empire whereby a leader could be chosen by ‘a petition’ [election] and did not have to be chosen out of inherited land rights nor blessed by the Holy Spirit! Chattel slavery continued on for another 90 years or so in America. In AD 1865, the Emancipation Proclamation was issued and chattel slavery was outlawed in the books . . . and the prisons have been filling up ever since!!! *****Handcuffs--Handcuffs--Handcuffs****What are the differences between a chained slave and a shackled prisoner?

    (3) [A half of ‘a time’] -- *AD 1512 + 500 years = AD 2012
    ****************What was going on in the year AD 2012!? **************

    We do not know yet! This prophecy is still not full! The Bible will have to confirm itself!

    This prophecy is based upon the correct measurement of time. Based upon the advent of the Star of Bethlehem [the planet Saturn], the Roman Empire and other important events have been marked. Rome was written to have organized in the 800s B.C. then, it became a Roman Republic in 509 B.C. and then finally a Roman Empire system marked by the Star of Bethlehem, the birth of Jesus Christ and Caesar Augustus [Octavian], the first Roman emperor. Guess What!? This great star has returned! And because of this return of the SAPPHIRE STAR in AD 2002, April 17 and in the same planetary line up as it did 2000 years ago, the errors of our present day dating system has been corrected. The actual birth of Jesus on, April 17, has been confirmed and marked to accuracy and the end of the world prophecy written down by Daniel so long ago can become accurate. Other than A.D. April 17 2002, the last time the planets all lined up in a straight line with the sun was exactly 2000 years ago on April 16 at 6:00 P.M. [April 17; Israel time]. So when the Shepherds looked straight up over head at 6:00 P.M. while Mari gave birth to Jesus, they saw a small white ball move into orbit and then it seemingly stopped right over the barn [manger]. The planetariums that feature ‘THE STAR OF BETHLEHEM’ show every year describe this amazing phenomena as it did occur from the viewpoint of the earth. They do state that this phenomena did occur on April 17. From the earth’s perspective, Saturn moved so fast that it made the planet Jupiter seem like it was moving in reverse. When Saturn seemed to stop moving, there were three balls in a cluster behind an ‘almost full moon’, Mars, Jupiter and the new moving star Saturn. In actuality, all of the planets are very far away from each other but, they were in a straight line up with the sun (including the planet earth). Venus and Mercury were on the other side of the sun. So ultimately, the planet Saturn came into orbit and took its place with this alignment and some of the planets more or less fell into and out of this alignment off and on for a period of 30 years or so afterwards. The same will happen this day. Like Jesus said about ‘the Sign of the Son of man’ [ST MATTHEW 24:30], the star will return again at the pinnacle of yet another great prophecy. At the Crucifixion, the star returned when Jesus was 33 1/2 years old and was over his head in GOLGOTHA at the time of a total solar eclipse! Jesus was about 30 years old when he started his mission and the planet Saturn takes about 30 years to circle the sun [ST LUKE 3:23]. The prophetical destruction of the great city and the Battle of Armageddon has a time gap based upon the movement of the Sign of the Son of man to occur in relation to its circuit around its solar rotation as it lines up behind the earth and yet another total solar eclipse (with the black moon). Its hexagonal pole is gradually turning and aligning up to face the planet earth.

    Because of today’s return of this planetary alignment after 2000 years, our date system being off by 2 years has been confirmed. Also, the prophecy of Daniel is based upon this great STAR OF BETHLEHEM in relation to the rule of Belshazzar and the Creation of Adam and etc. If this prophecy of Daniel’s is truth then, it should be proven by the end of 2012. That is about four years from now. No one knows the day or hour as Jesus did say but, Jesus himself put us to the very year. He swore. Will the time of Tribulation come? . . . Watch and Pray. . . Shout it out on the housetops!


    488 B.C. – Afterwards; The Battle of Thermopylae [480 BC]
    "http://ancienthistory.about.com/cs/weaponswar/p/blpwtherm.htm"
    511 – Clovis I died, leaving Frankish kingdom to Orleans to
    Chlodomer, …Meroviginan Dynasty
    "http://www.packrat-pro.com/timeline/500AD.htm"
    "http://www.historycentral.com/dates/500ad.html"
    1512 -- ...rights and obligations for Spanish encomenderos…
    -In Rome, Michaelangelo …completes the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel
    "http://www.scholiast.org/history/timetables/1500s.html"
    AD 2002-- April 17, planetary alignment
    http://www.wisdomportal.com/PlanetaryAlignment.html

    . . . How long shall it be to the end of these wonders? . . .he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and sware by him that liveth for ever that it shall be for a time, times, and an half; . . . [DANIEL 12:6-7].
    "http://quod.lib.umich.edu/cgi/k/kjv/kjv-idx?type=citation&book=Daniel&chapno=12&startverse=6&endverse=7"

    And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time[DANIEL 7:25].
    "http://quod.lib.umich.edu/cgi/k/kjv/kjv-idx?type=citation&book=Daniel&chapno=7&startverse=25&endverse" =
     
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    impressive mathematics in this theory by first establishing the year 488 bc....
    but it's hard for me to conclude any prophecies from the bible since it is an incomplete parchment in it's current state....

    this was interesting none the less...and i agree something is going to pop off in 2012....

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    I thought the death of Jesus changed the calender, something about it being off 4 years so technically 2012 is 2008. I keep reading this everywhere....
     
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    this is very interesting... however

    remember the y2k....

    when one fear doesn't hold true here comes the next one

    perhaps end in this instance means beginning....

    perhaps death to lies and birth of truth and spiritual awakening....

    maybe no one knows the time or the hour because time doesn't truly exist...

    if the totality of us is past present and future then we couldn't exist here without the security of a future

    thank you for the astronomy tho.. that is well received .....
     
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    IF....

    If the bible were reliable then this would still be a stretch. But, since the bible is NOT reliable then we can only go by the other 2012 prophecies as the reason for this date.
     
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    Thank you.

    My approach in regards to the Bible is that I use it as a cross reference to other written works. I think that past interpretations have clouded a lot of the intents of the past authors.
     
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    I read that too, in the Almanac. But based upon the planetary alignment of 2002, April 16/17 it basically refutes that.

    I saw this wonder myself but at the time, I did not 'put it all together. I just happen to pass by my tv and heard it on the 6:00 news and the next morning around 5:00, I went out and saw the 3 planets behind the moon in my state. It was at an angle.
     
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    What other reliable sources?

    we have to research the words and prove or disprove; that what Jesus said. he knew the Bible was going to be blasphemed.
     
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    The 2012 prophecy came from the Mayan calender. It is the most accurate calender ever created. This is where the 2012 prophecy came from INDEPENDENT OF THE BIBLE...AND BEFORE the canonization of the bible.

    Many people are discussing 2012 as the end of the world due to interpretations of predictions contained in the Mayan calendar. The Mayan civilization was extremely advanced in mathematics, engineering and astronomy. They also had an incredible understanding of time and space. Various calendars were in use to track time in linear progressions within cycles. The “Great Cycle” of the “Long Count” calendar equates to 5,125.36 years. The current Great Cycle is due to be completed on the winter solstice of 2012, December 21. So, it has been interpreted that on this day, the Great Cycle ends, time ends, so the Earth must end as well.
     
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    Mayan Origins . . . "y" a replacement letter . . .


    Mayan Origins . . . "y"; a replacement letter . . .

    I have done a lot of research on 'The Maya' . . . 'Maga' . . . 'Magog'! . . .

    Most historians place the Maya [Maga] in the 1500's B.C. and here is the problem: They came and took over a much more ancient civilization of which had already mastered script and the calendar!!!

    White peoples' mis-education to the slaves and descendants of slaves!!!

    Long before the Mayas took dominance in the Americas, it was the descendants of Cush Ham and Phut Ham of whom came to the Americas and dominated. The Zuni-Pueblo native people came and brought script and civilization long before the Mayas!

    Although all are aboriginal people, the Zuni-Pueblo people had a brotherhood bond and they were first! The Mayas are not the first masters of script nor the Calendar. However, they were serious 'Star worshipers' and based much of their lives around 'predictions' based upon the calendar and etc. still, they came in on top of the more acient natives and later dominated them.

    The Zuni, Incas [Inkidus], Zona [Pison; Amazona], Dorians [Hundoras . . .] and so many more are connected to Cush Ham [Chaldeans] from the early civilization of Iraq and these men mastered the script and the Calendar long before the 1500s B.C. when the Mayas are written to have been associated with science and measurement.

    In addition to this, even longer before Cush Ham [the Chaldeans] of the Copper Age and the Bronze Age, there was Imhotep and the Egyptian civilizations that preceded the Mayans more than a thousand years. Back in the 2700s B.C., the Calendar and predictions about 2012 was basically already figured out. Prophecy includes the movement of stars and the earth's relation to the universe. Many ancient priest in addition to the priest of Israelites such as Moses knew that the planet Saturn was coming and etc.

    So, yes Daniel wrote down the prophecy of 2012 but, the actual Mayans that wrote about 2012 also came after Daniel's prophecy as well. They became known as 'THE CLASSICAL MAYANS' and formed around the A.D. 300s.

    It was THE CLASSICAL MAYANS that came after Javanites and 'the Copan Mayans' and etc. of which came around 700s B.C. and then another movement occurred in the 300s B.C. that wrote about the end of the world predictions. From 300 BC to AD 300 is about 600 years. This was more than 600 years after Daniel wrote it down!!!

    Many Blacks fled the Meditteranean world around the time of Daniel due to the major conflicts that occurred in that region of the world. Also, many of the so-called Mayans in the Americas were not all Mayans.
     
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