Black Spirituality Religion : He is Immanuel

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  1. MizLindaLinda

    MizLindaLinda Well-Known Member MEMBER

    Dec 6, 2004
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    Listen to one of the most beautiful and familiar of all the Old
    Testament prophecies about the birth of the Messiah, from Isaiah 9.

    The people who walked in darkness
    have seen a great light;
    those who dwell in a land of deep darkness -
    on them light has shined.
    You have multiplied the nation,
    you have increased its joy;
    they rejoice before you as with joy at the harvest,
    as they are glad when they divide the spoil.

    For to us a child is born,
    to us a son is given;
    and the government shall be upon his shoulder,
    and his name shall be called
    Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God,
    Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.
    Of the increase of his government and of peace
    there will be no end,
    on the throne of David and over his kingdom,
    to establish it and to uphold it
    with justice and with righteousness
    from this time forth and forevermore.
    The zeal of the Lord of hosts will do this.

    It's hard for Americans to feel the impact of this magnificent
    prophecy of Isaiah because we're used to winning. We're the world's
    only superpower, as we are endlessly reminded - the richest,
    strongest, most dominant country on the face of the earth. Even when
    we are shaken by treachery or terrorism, even when sneak attacks hurt
    us, we soon rally and go on the offensive.

    To really understand the significance of the promises of Isaiah 9, we
    would have to know what it is like to be utterly defeated and without
    any hope of recovery. We would have to go through the experience of
    having an enemy who was far more powerful than us invade and
    viciously conquer our country, destroy our cities, plunder our goods,
    and brutally subjugate our people as the Babylonians did to the
    ancient Jews. We would then have to live completely at the mercy of
    this occupying power, obeying whatever rules they chose to impose,
    paying whatever tribute they demanded, knowing that we had no chance
    whatsoever to win back our freedom. People in Nazi-occupied Europe in
    1940, for example, could readily identity with the people of Israel
    here in Isaiah 9, but it is difficult for us to do so. Still, let's
    give it a try.

    Light in the Darkness

    This is a prophecy of hope, of light in the midst of darkness, of
    restoration following crushing defeat, of the coming of a Great
    Deliverer. "In the days of Pekah king of Israel," we read in Old
    Testament history, "Tiglathpileser king of Assyria came and captured
    . . . Galilee, and all the land of Naphtali; and he carried the
    people captive to Assyria" (2 Kings 15:29). This was the beginning of
    the end for the Jewish people, and the conquests started in the north,
    around Galilee. But God's promise is even more amazing. The light
    would shine once more upon the people walking in darkness. The
    reversal of all the misfortune, the deliverance from war and defeat
    and misery, the dawn of the age of blessing, would also start from
    the north. "Nevertheless," writes Isaiah in chapter 9,

    there will be no more gloom for those who were in distress. In the
    past the Lord humbled the land of Zebulun and the land of Naphtali,
    but in the future he will honor Galilee of the Gentiles, by the way
    of the sea, along the Jordan. The people walking in darkness have
    seen a great light . . .

    Isaiah 9:1-2, niv

    All of this must have been puzzling to Isaiah's original audience as
    well as to those who read it for many years thereafter, but we have
    the advantage of looking backwards. We know the One whose ministry of
    preaching, teaching, healing and deliverance began "by the way of the
    sea," in Galilee of the Gentiles.

    When God chose to begin to act to deliver his people from the
    darkness of their oppression, the results would be sheer, unbridled
    joy. Isaiah describes the joy that will spread through God's people
    with two engaging similes. People will "rejoice as . . . at the
    harvest," he writes (v. 3). Only those who have to live on what they
    can grow for themselves know just how joyful the harvest time is,
    when food stocks can be replenished and those who have been living on
    short rations once again have enough to eat and even to feast. And,
    says Isaiah, it will be like the joy of a great victory in battle.
    "They rejoice before you . . . as men rejoice when dividing the
    plunder." Picture the celebrations of a team that's just won the
    World Cup or the Super Bowl, and you'll see what Isaiah had in mind.

    The Prince of Four Names

    Now all of this rejoicing hinges upon the great good news of the
    birth of a child: "For to us a child is born, to us a son is given."
    Isaiah has been speaking about this child elsewhere in the chapters
    of his book. The child's birth would be a sign of God's personal
    presence with his people; he would be called "Immanuel,
    God-is-with-us" (Isaiah 7:14). He would be a royal descendant of the
    house of David, "a shoot from the stump of Jesse" (Isaiah 11:1-5). So
    the child would be both divine and human, Son of David and Son of God,
    a king who would rule all things perfectly, with perfect justice,
    perfect love, perfect wisdom, a king whose rule would be eternal. In
    his kingdom all good dreams will come true, and of his kingdom there
    would be no end.

    The names that Isaiah uses for the child here in chapter 9 testify to
    his wisdom, power, love and goodness. There are four of them:
    Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.
    The Messiah - for he, of course, is the One whose birth is
    prophetically described here - would be a ruler unlike any other. He
    would have no need of counselors' advice for he himself would display
    wisdom that would astonish all who heard him. He would not lack for
    strength to accomplish his plans for his would be the omnipotence of
    God himself. His love and care would be those of an infinitely good
    father and would be from everlasting to everlasting. Unlike the kings
    and emperors of human history, whose pride and cruelty are exhibited
    in the names by which they are known (Ivan the Terrible, William the
    Conqueror, Alexander the Great), the nature of King Messiah's rule is
    shown by his title. He is the Prince of Peace. His kingdom is a very
    different one from the kingdoms of this world.

    The fact is that all his names taken together reveal the Prince of
    Peace, Immanuel, to be utterly unique. The gods of the ancient world
    weren't anything like this. The ancients worshiped many gods with all
    sorts of different characteristics and personalities. The trouble was
    that the gods who were nice usually weren't very powerful, and the
    gods who were powerful weren't very nice. What a blessing to know the
    truth, that there is only one God, and he is both great and good -
    all-wise, all-powerful, all-loving, and eternal. How wonderful to
    know him, and to know his names. He is the wonderful counselor, the
    mighty God, the everlasting Father, the Prince of Peace. He is
    Immanuel. He is the shoot from the stump of Jesse.

    Who exactly do you know that fulfills and embodies all of those
    names? The best name of all is the name given to him not here in the
    Old Testament prophecy, but by the angel in the gospel story. His
    name is "Jesus," and that name means "Savior." If you know Jesus as
    your Savior, your mighty God, your Prince of Peace, then your peace
    will have no end.
  2. j'hiah

    j'hiah Well-Known Member MEMBER

    United States
    Mar 3, 2001
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    lend me some sugar.. l am your neighbor

    yes!! :pool: truth in the corner pocket!
    game's over..

    you are a great vehicle for/to the truth. You have a message out of bounds here queen. You have to extend this piece here.
    Jesus is, was and is to come. :weights: makes me feel skrong when l say that b/c it's true...

    this is kind of funny too b/c l'm used to poison coming from people's mouth in this particular form in failing attempts to ruin His name,,, but it wont work..

    this is water... pure water...
  3. MizLindaLinda

    MizLindaLinda Well-Known Member MEMBER

    Dec 6, 2004
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    O People, Take a notice, The Messiah Has Come! The Saviour of the World Has Come!
    All the creation testify to His coming, Open your hearts and see your Redeemer!
    Don't wait another day, open your eyes and see, Prince of Peace, The Messiah has come.

    AACOOLDRE Well-Known Member MEMBER

    United States
    Jul 26, 2001
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    This name also means Amen
  5. cherryblossom

    cherryblossom Banned MEMBER

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    The Meaning of "Immanuel"

    The name "Immanuel" occurs in Isaiah's important prophecy (7:14-16). The name relates to the confirmation that the plans of Jerusalem's adversaries would fail because God's purposes are immutable (Isaiah 7:4-9). His presence ensures this. The great prophecy of chapter seven is followed by some important details about "Immanuel" in the next chapter.
    The key passage interpreting the meaning "Immanuel" is Isaiah 8:10 ("Take counsel together, but it will come to nothing; Speak the word, but it will not stand, For God is with us"). This means that God's purposes stand no matter how strenuously evildoers oppose them. Note the similarity of Isaiah 7:7 and 8:10.

    Regarding Matthew 1:23: "Immanuel," meaning "God with us" carries the implication that God is sovereignly working His purpose in the lives of His people to protect them and work through them. He will fulfill His promises no matter how earnestly men may oppose them (See Ro. 8:31 and following). The reference in Matt. 1:23 teaches that Jesus in His Person is truly God, but it also includes the idea that God’s plan of redemption is unstoppable and that our ultimate security and provision is in the Person of Christ.

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  6. Angela22

    Angela22 Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Feb 26, 2013
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    I don't believe His Name was "Jesus", but I do believe He is my savior, my King, the Anointed Son of the Father who died for our iniquity and was resurrected back to life eternal, promising all faithful and believing the same. :D Prince of Peace, indeed, for He has brought me peace that I at first thought couldn't be attained. He is with us, as the Father is always with us.
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