Black People : Have Black People Finally Become Their Own Worst Enemy?

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  1. blkbutterfly41

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    Have Black People Finally Become Their Own Worst Enemy?

    I believe I understand racism and white supremacy about as well as anyone. From the time the first African was captured and forced onto a ship, Black people have been subjected to racism and white supremacy.

    The psychological damage that has been done to our people as a result of racism and white supremacy has been catastrophic. Generation after generation of Black people have had a love-hate relationship with themselves as a result of white supremacy. We have hated our hair, our skin color and everything else about ourselves. We have grown to distrust each other and work against each other.

    There are Black people that take pride in not doing business with other Blacks. They take pride in living mainly among whites, working mainly among whites, teaching primarily white children and yes, some take extreme pride in dating and marrying white. Frankly speaking, due to the impact of racism and white supremacy, Black people have literally lost their minds. We need help.

    But the children of the slave masters are not coming to help. The help that we need must come from us.

    But, I must admit that I occasionally wonder if we want to be helped. I know the worst thing about a psychological illness is that often, one doesn't realize they have a problem. ( Before the -Not I's- represent , It's all of us to some extent )

    However, enough of us do know that something is terribly wrong, but we sit idle and watch the damage being done. Others of us have decided that if you can't beat 'em, join 'em. So we willfully exploit and take advantage of our own people.

    Black elected officials are content to play the game of politics like the good old white boys have played it for years. They take their campaign contributions, get elected to office and either sit silent or actively work against the best interests of their people. They want more money and they want to be reelected. What good is it to have Black elected officials, if they aren't helping Black people?

    We have some Black teachers that don't want to teach Black children. They prefer the suburban schools and teaching white children instead of the urban schools and teaching their own.

    We have Blacks in law enforcement, as well as Black judges and prosecutors, but are they striving to make a difference among their own people?

    In other words, have we become our own worst enemy?

    Has the white man and his racist and white supremacist policies been so successful that he could literally leave the earth and Black people would still rob and kill each other? Would we still pimp our little girls and terrorize our own neighborhoods?

    It's time, Black folks! Skin color is no longer the only criteria. We need to know where your head is and what you are doing to help yourself and your people.

    What are the characteristics of our enemies and have we imitated them to the point of no return ?? Can we hear each other , love each other, and can we collectively identify the enemy clearly so we know , Who are we actually combating ??

    Peace
     
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    We are no ones enemy.

    Each individual regardless of race has the God given right to sit and watch millions suffer and die and let the world go to hell,

    or take some small effort to stop the madness.

    Folks have a right to be helpful or
    hurtful or ambivalent,
    and folks can only express what they have in their hearts.


    In Oliver Twist ;
    the mobsters wife said to him
    "do you love me"
    He said "sure, I sleep with you don't I"

    Either one cares or one does not,

    no excuses can be made.

    Nor judgements either.
     
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    blkbutterfly41 Banned MEMBER

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    Interesting POV.

    I don't agree by far, but I don't have too. But I question whats highlighted in red. Is it not our responsibilty to be neighborly, to help each other and be less selfish, by God of any name ??

    So who are our enemies , if anybody ??

    Again, Thanks for your honest POV. Peace bro

     
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    why did you highlight only that part instead of the entire phrase?
     
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    the enemy of black people is the system of white supremacy....

    black people are not their own worst enemy.
    the sooner you learn this simple fact, the better off you will be
     
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    Hmmmm.
    That's an interesting question, but I have a better one. If a chicken sqwaks in the woods, does it make a sound?
     
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    Because that the jest of your phrase and what I find to be questionable.

    By your post, I suspect you don't think its our humane responsiblity to look after our future, our children etc.

    I was hoping you explained more in lenght. :10500:

    I'm not looking for agreement like I'm looking to comprehend your train of thought. :em2300:

    Have a good evening Bro.

    Luv ya , Peace


     
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    blkbutterfly41 Banned MEMBER

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    Why not ??

    And even if the enemy is the system of white supremacy, Aren't there many blacks that imitate , believe in, put their faith in and love white supremacy ??

    Are they the enemy too ?? Is this indeed an fact ?? If so , please show proof of such "facts" ?

    Please share with me in your honest opinion how to identify this enemy ??

    :10500:

     
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    I guess we like to stick our heads in the sand..............

    Self hatred is real. Changes comes when we are able to acknowledge , recognize and make a concious effort to cjamge the pattern. Lets see how our goverment helps perpetuate this pattern....................


    This governmental mortifying psychosocial treatment of African Americans may be the most aggravating, if not core, factor of the national phenomenon of self hatred; loss of educational aspirations; loss of unity, cohesion and racial pride; and fragile psyches of many African Americans today. It is in fact so fundamentally detrimental to the Black human condition and psyche that it may even affect the extent to which many African Americans realize their full human potential. This type of psychological manipulation program has also been proven very effective in rapidly destroying a group’s ethical and moral values and engendering negative cultural norms with regard to violence, brutality, and even murder. All people, to some degree, are products of cultural conditions and their worldviews operate outside of their level of consciousness. Therefore, no group can be preconditioned to see only the worst in themselves and not exhibit some degree of negative psychological impact.

    Not only does this massive governmental psychological manipulation campaign negatively impacts Blacks self perceptions, but it also provides a more socially acceptable way to assure that the masses of African Americans remains the most racially devalued and most economical exploited and suppressed group in America.

    The media’s constant, fraudulently inaccurate, negative imagery of Black Americans is designed also to create a shift of victimization that changes the root problem of racism in America to be due to Black’s behavior rather than White’s proclivity for racism. Therefore insinuates that America would be a better society as a whole if African Americans were gone, thus engendering increasingly prejudiced distorted perceptions and acrimonious beliefs about African Americans that are designed to makes the nation and the entire world insensitive to their plight, tranquilizes efforts on their behalf, lessens pressure for social change on their behalf, and makes any serious criticism of White racism almost impossible today. Therefore fostering a national setting of where in which Blacks are more easily exploited and ultimately consensually suppressed. Moreover, some studies have shown that this shift of victimization now reflects increasingly acrimonious beliefs and prejudiced perceptions about and against African Americans that are arguably stronger today than they were after emancipation.

    This campaign also attempts to discourage miscegenation between Blacks and whites, and creates a false justification for the legal system’s mistreatment of African Americans wherein they are disproportionately incarcerated, given stiffer sentences, and are more likely than other racial groups to be treated brutally, beaten, and fired upon by police officers while they are unarmed. These injustices now goes ignored because the perception has subconsciously become that it’s all now justified. When contempt of Blacks is made to appear to be justifiable, it is the fiercest and most effective type of racism because its witnesses, bystanders, and even world audiences will sit by idly allowing African Americans to be brutally mistreated under the belief that it is justified. This is what Dr. Edward Bernays referred to as “engineering consent”.


    This governmental psychological conditioning program stripped African Americans of the national and international support that was acquired during the 1960's civil rights struggles. It also today affects attitudes that when enacted through governmental policies, laws, and other legislation actions, serve to ensure that African Americans will not advance. Its effects are manifested in ideas, education, governmental policies, economic stratification, social segregation, housing markets, hiring and promotion practices, psychological issues, and minority access to a variety of social services and opportunity.

    The present despairing state of Black America is neither a baffling phenomenon nor the result of some divine ethnic curse, but is rather instead the result of the White elite’s innate proclivity for reinventing devious methods to suppress its Black population.
    The objective of the United States government has always been to maintain its White dominance and control over its Black population, and clearly, psychological warfare meets this need. It was the logical choice because it covertly provided the U.S. Government with a far more sophisticated, proficient, and socially accepted means of covertly controlling and suppressing its Black population. Through this method the U.S. Government is able to both influence the national climate and engender personal psychological feelings among its Black population that meet its objectives of maintaining its white dominance. Furthermore, history overwhelmingly demonstrates that the White race’s innate proclivity for racism, control, and dominance is much too deeply ingrained for them to just merely give up their practices of implementing suppressive methods over its African American population. The records of history show that the reincarnation of suppressive methods into forms more acceptable to the changing times is a common practice of the United States government.

    As seen after the abolishment of slavery wherein its methods of using racist, oppressive treatment of its Black population was reincarnated into Jim Crow inequalities that included many devious strategies and methods that prevented Blacks from becoming registered voters. And let us not forget the horrific Tuskegee experiments where of in which from1932 and 1972, the U.S. Public Health Service (PHS) conducted dangerous syphilis experiments on four hundred Black men. These men were deliberately left to degenerate painfully under the ravishes of the disease – with symptoms including blindness, tumors, paralysis, insanity and death – to allow the U.S. Government to collect the needed data from their autopsies. And let us also not forget of the CIA’s involvement in flooding the Black communities of Los Angeles with drugs and high powered weaponry and then disseminated these drugs and weaponry to many African American communities throughout the United States destroying the lives of millions of African Americans while stimulating the economy through the prison industry. The historic and demonstrative evidence overwhelmingly reflects the reality that the U.S. government does manifest a proclivity for reinventing devious methods to suppress its Black population. This proclivity has led to the U.S. Government using its proven method of mass psychological manipulation to control the advancement and growth of its Black population. It was the next logical choice because the evils of racism thrives best when its victims no longer recognizes the evil.


    http://www.*****************/forum/black-matrix/32099-black-people-have-you-ever-heard-dr-edward-bernays.html


    What do you think ??

     
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    Whats wrong with Black people is still white racism and denial !!

    What's wrong with Black people is still white racism and our denial.


    Over the past 500 years, European ruling elites have always used methods of psychological manipulation and control upon their African victims [as first discussed from an African perspective by the Nigerian scholar Chinweizu (1987) in his classic Decolonizing the African Mind and from an African American perspective in the Willie Lynch letters narratives (1992)]
    Today this racist tradition of the mental minipulation [“mental” colonization]of Blacks secretly continues even now within the United States. It has been modified into a more contemporary and stealthy design that provides a more socially acceptable means of meeting this traditional objective.
    As a means of ensuring that it’s White dominance and controlled is maintained, America’s societal white ruling elites secretly implemented its largest ever covert operation against its Black population through its educational, judicial, and prison systems, but most detrimentally through a covert national campaign of psychological manipulation and control. A modern sophisticated system that uses the psychology of deceit perpetuated through the national media that uses false statistics, mis-information, and negative propaganda media reports that are deliberately designed to assaults the Black psyche corrupting many African Americans’ sense of unity and cohesion and to tranquilize efforts on their behalf thus facilitating a setting where of which its Black population is more easier suppressed and exploited.
    Although there are now today many wealthy and successful African Americans, greatly due to highly paid athletes and entertainers that benefit the White elites more than they do their own communities, the U.S. government now still conducts planned campaigns of extensive strategic psychological operations through the national media to influence the perception and climate of the nation towards the attainment of its governmental objective of maintaining its white dominance and controls.


    Today’s modern system of psychological manipulation is so enthralling and sophisticated that it misleads many Blacks to believe that they are, themselves, their own worst enemies, therefore engendering an internalized aberration of self contempt that pulverizes Black unity and halts Black upward mobility. Moreover, it provides a more socially acceptable way to assure that the masses of African Americans remains the most racially devalued and most economical exploited and suppressed group in America . Furthermore, it is at the root of both the profound division and self hatred now afflicting so many Black Americans and is at the heart of internalized feelings of superiority that many whites possess. It is in fact so fundamentally detrimental to the Black human condition and psyche that it may even affect the extent to which many African Americans realize their full human potential. Moreover, this system of racism is so well fortified and so complete that Many African Americans will disregard any disclosure of it as being outrageous and will even label other Blacks as being “racist” for merely calling attention to it. In fact, this method of racism is so proficient at damaging the Black self-perception that tragically it has become easier for many Blacks to accept the derogatory premise that the noted problems stem from innate inadequacies within themselves rather than that of being the case of a modern system of white institutionalized racism. While the official assigned title of this massive covert scheme remains classified, I however appropriately call it the Black Matrix”.
    Many African Americans, in defending the U.S. Government, will adamantly present the question of why would the U.S. government find it a necessity to implement such a racist scheme? This is because the image that has been firmly established upon the consciousness of Black America, in regards to the U.S. Government, are those of the U.S. government sending troops to Little Rock, Arkansas to safely escort Black students to attend schools, or that of the Northern Union soldiers fighting and dying against the Confederate army to free the slaves, and of the many social programs that the federal Government has implemented towards the benefit of African Americans. However, while these undertakings by the U.S. government individually and collectively deserve our appreciation, they do not accurately provide the full picture revealing the true or entire relationship shared between the U.S. Government and its Black population. These favorable stories and events reflect only what the U.S. Government wants its African Americans population to remember and are not historically accurate at reflecting or determining the true past relationship or the underlying present existing relationship between African Americans and the U.S. Government.


    From slavery to the present, African Americans have undeniably borne an unprecedented amount of suffering and mistreatment by the U.S. government because of their race. However, so many have forgotten or repressed so much of these maltreatments and have, instead, come to accept the favorable-but-false perpetuated White persona that represents everything that White people never were -- and still are not -- in place of the truth, thus engendering a sort of psychologically induced coma concerning their own Black holocaust. Because most African Americans are denied an educational system and media reports that gives them accurate information, both historically and at present, reflecting the U.S. Governments relationship with African American, therefore most are totally oblivious of the true fundamental core character of this existing relationship.
    To truly understand why U.S. government would find it a necessity to implement such a racist scheme, it is necessary to first learn the true fundamental core character of the American society as it relates to African Americans.A hidden truth is that although the United States Government portrays itself as the leading ethical and moral authority of the world and professes equal rights for all American citizens, its oldest and most important objective has always been an unyielding commitment towards the preservation of its White dominance and control. This objective has always directly correlated with the necessity to suppress the advancement and growth of its Black population. Because if the U.S. government treated its Black population in a manner which does not promote its interest of maintaining White dominance and control this would render the U.S. Government diametrically in opposition to itself. Therefore, it secretly uses every conceivable means and opportunity to suppress its Black population; even those that trample upon its own stated ethical values.


    As seen within the abolitionist struggles and Civil rights struggles white America has a tradition of resistance against the advancement of its Black population. This tradition of resistant has always correlated with the necessity to reinvent newer forms of institutionalized racism. This practice of reinventing newer forms of institutionalized racism was already seen in the United States when, after the abolishment of slavery, the evil of racism was reincarnated into Jim Crow inequalities that where maintained by regional authorities and condoned by the U.S. Government. This atrocious American pattern of reinventing newer methods of suppressing - and while exploiting - its Black population to maintain its White dominance and control secretly continues in the 21 century. Unlike the blatant brutal method of white racist systems used in the past in the United States , today’s methods are very sophisticated and unlike anything ever before faced by African Americans.
    Because of its immense degree of sophistication that hides and prevails behind the psychology of deceit realizing this monumental disclosure will be quite difficult and very uncomfortable for many African Americans. Since most Blacks have never heard of this method of asserting White racism, therefore many will find it too shocking and stunning to contemplate. Nonetheless it is directly intertwined with the baffling phenomenon of disparities now plaguing America ’s Black communities. In order to recognize it requires that African Americans reexamine some of their most basic beliefs and prior assumptions. It also requires that African Americans overcome a psychologically ingrained “White is right” preferentiality that has been indoctrinated unrelentingly upon the Black psyche that is rarely moved. Nevertheless, the gained reward by reading this literature will be a change from feelings of hopelessness and despair to an awareness of the most urgent issue of our time.


    This science of psychology works by affecting the unconscious mind through deception. It is implemented by, first, simply learning everything about the targeted group, their beliefs, likes, dislikes, strengths, and vulnerabilities. Once you know what motivates your target, you are ready to begin psychological operations against them.The basis of this concept is that the human being's most critical aspect is the mind and it works by affecting the unconscious mind through deception. Its weapon is the message that it carries and the way that it adversely affects the targeted group.



    Here is a simplified analogy of its process at effecting Black self perception: Let us, for example, imagine that a crew of people was aboard their own massive ship and that this ship was being shadowed by another neighboring ship that was constantly broadcasting derogatory messages to the first group. Such messages as that their ship was lesser, smaller, not seaworthy, perhaps slowly sinking or that their crew was incompetent and was planning a mutiny. With time, the group receiving the negative messages, being unable to refute or to confirm these derogatory messages and deficiencies will grow weary and paranoid of the negative messages and will eventually comes to accept these negative assessments of themselves. The perception created by the taunting now unconsciously influences how the taunted group perceives themselves, subsequently causing them to become distrustful of themselves, doubting themselves, hating themselves and, eventually, fighting among themselves. The taunted group may even become so besieged by deep feelings of inadequacy that they may even jump into the sea and attempt to swim towards the taunting ship now believing it to be superior to their own boat even if their own ship was in fact better.

    http://www.*****************/forum/black-matrix/29783-whats-wrong-black-people-still-white-racism.html


     
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