Black People : Happy "Deathgiving Day"

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  1. queentswana

    queentswana Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    It's no susprise I'm not a forum writer ...but...well, I must say I was deeply moved by asimplepoet's shout-out.



    The Real Thanksgiving

    Quoted from: The Hidden History of Massachusetts

    Much of America's understanding of the early relationship between the Indian and the European is conveyed through the story of Thanksgiving. Proclaimed a holiday in 1863 by Abraham Lincoln, this fairy tale of a feast was allowed to exist in the American imagination pretty much untouched until 1970, the 350th anniversary of the landing of the Pilgrims. That is when Frank B. James, president of the Federated Eastern Indian League, prepared a speech for a Plymouth banquet that exposed the Pilgrims for having committed, among other crimes, the robbery of the graves of the Wampanoags. He wrote:

    "We welcomed you, the white man, with open arms, little knowing that it was the beginning of the end; that before 50 years were to pass, the Wampanoag would no longer be a free people."

    But white Massachusetts officials told him he could not deliver such a speech and offered to write him another. Instead, James declined to speak, and on Thanksgiving Day hundreds of Indians from around the country came to protest. It was the first National Day of Mourning, a day to mark the losses Native Americans suffered as the early settlers prospered. This true story of "Thanksgiving" is what whites did not want Mr. James to tell.

    What Really Happened in Plymouth in 1621?

    According to a single-paragraph account in the writings of one Pilgrim, a harvest feast did take place in Plymouth in 1621, probably in mid-October, but the Indians who attended were not even invited. Though it later became known as "Thanksgiving," the Pilgrims never called it that. And amidst the imagery of a picnic of interracial harmony is some of the most terrifying bloodshed in New World history.

    The Pilgrim crop had failed miserably that year, but the agricultural expertise of the Indians had produced twenty acres of corn, without which the Pilgrims would have surely perished. The Indians often brought food to the Pilgrims, who came from England ridiculously unprepared to survive and hence relied almost exclusively on handouts from the overly generous Indians-thus making the Pilgrims the western hemisphere's first class of welfare recipients. The Pilgrims invited the Indian sachem Massasoit to their feast, and it was Massasoit, engaging in the tribal tradition of equal sharing, who then invited ninety or more of his Indian brothers and sisters-to the annoyance of the 50 or so ungrateful Europeans. No turkey, cranberry sauce or pumpkin pie was served; they likely ate duck or geese and the venison from the 5 deer brought by Massasoit. In fact, most, if

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    For All My Chittlin and Hog Maw Friends !!

    Let us consider what chitlins are - they are hog intestines or guts. Eating chitlins in the rural South is not as common as it once was. In colonial times, hogs were slaughtered in December, and how maws or ears, pigs feet, and neck bones were given to the slaves. Until emancipation, African-American food choices were restricted by the dictates of their owners, and slave owners often fed their slaves little more than the scraps of animal meat that the owners deemed unacceptable for themselves.

    Robert Stroube, M.D., M.P.H warns that bacteria in raw chitterlings or pig intestines can cause severe diarrhea, especially in infants. Chitterlings, commonly called chitlins, may contain the Yersinia bacteria.
    Yersinia can cause severe diarrhea, bloody diarrhea, abdominal pain and fever. The symptoms usually begin within three to seven days after contact with the bacteria. Infants and small children who contract yersiniosis may require hospitalization, although the illness rarely causes death. Older children and adults may experience appendicitis-like stomach pain.

    Most African-Americans assume that it makes little difference what they put into their stomachs as long as they are full. And one of the leading culprits in the way of poisonous foods eaten by Black Americans is soul food – Ham, potato salad, French fries, pork chops, chitterlings, collards, pig feet, cornbread, black-eyed peas, and hog maws. All of these foods are cooked in or laced with pork fat, lard, milk, eggs, butter, salt, spices, and lots of refined sugar. These foods are not compatible with our bio-chemical makeup, and are responsible for the many diseases that we suffer from today.
     
  2. Da Street So'ja

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    oh well

    my grandmama smoked, drank and ate all these foods in ABUNDANCE

    so when she died @ age 87 i said to myself you know i always told grandma

    to cut back that cornbread

    lol
     
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    Da Street So'ja Banned MEMBER

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    the sad truth is


    many think this day is about the indians and white man coming to peace

    um NOT!

    but i still celebrate the day to give thanks and appreciate my family
     
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    And I give thanks for the PAID holiday! And my family too.
     
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    This thread is amazing and my response will always be the same. I'm being kind about all of this but here's my solution to the ignorance our people engage in.

    What I suggest is that an African based organization should get in touch with the Indian based organizations....and the Indian based organizations should broadcast in the newspapers and the radio that
    "from this day forward we as Indian nations in The west are going to celebrate the genocide and enslavement of African Peoples"...and although it is not our intention to be inhumane to their pain and history, we feel that if they can celebrate the genocide and death of our people through the mockery that they call Thanksgiving, we can celebrate theirs also.

    Now in all honesty, this is the kind of thing that needs to be done to our people to finally wake them up from the spell of white people and their "holy-days" that belong only to them...when for all other peoples it has only represented death and destruction. Sometimes we need to be slapped awake instead of shaken awake !!
     
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    I've not said, or replyed that you made a statement of a celebration, re-read the beginning of my post!
    Not every one knows the real meaning of why thanks are being given, I have no doubt that you give thanks everyday ...for I do as well.
    It's quite okay ...to agree, to dis-agree ...that's what makes the whirl go round. Just because I put it out there don't mean you have to digest it, I was merely stating what's real, history reveals it. I just simply find it impossibe to aid in the celebration of the bloodshed of my/our people.
    Will I be at work as usual ...I certainly will be sis, and yes I will eat my feast, cause I do that everyday.
    Have a blessed day
    Much love and respect
     
  7. Jahari Kavi

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    i've never understood the basic premise behind american holidays...I realize all of them come from atrocities, "pagan" traditions, etc...but why do you need a day to tell someone you love them, to give thanks, etc......shouldn't that be done on a day to day basis?????
     
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    peace

    - SOmething like this is only natural to natural people...or the people of the SUN!

    it is my observation that not only do they run to the beach or tanning booth to look like us, but also subconciously to find that Love.....

    An excellent book to read about holidays is:

    Afrikans and European Holidays books 1 & 2

    by our beloved ancestor Dr. Ishakamusa Barashango
     
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    peace

    been meaning to order both of these for a while now..............
     
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    WORD....i need to cop those...

    one love
    khasm
     
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