Black People : Hanging is Too Good for This Kneegro!

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    Non-white people focusing on each other...and then wondering why we're in the condition we're in.
     
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    We need to focus on each other. And its no wonder why we are in the condition that we are in. We have our own sets of contradictions that predate racism/white supremacy.
     
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    According to compensatory counter-racism logic, each non-white person, because of our training under the SYSTEM of racism (white supremacy) in how we have been taught to focus on each other which makes the job of the white person who practices racism (white supremacy) that much easier in keeping us in conflict with each other, must fix ourselves as individual people before we can even think about fixing each other.

    Retrain ourselves, as individual people, to think correctly. Retrain ourselves, as individual people, to speak correctly. Retrain ourselves, as individual people, to do the correct things.

    If this is correct it means that you have a lot of work to do on yourself. And I have a lot of work to do on myself. This is the work that should take you the rest of your life and should take me the rest of my life. And you and I, if we do this correctly, will only have time to help each other if we request help from each other, in our process, as individual people, to get ourselves, as individual people, to have contractive thought, speech, and action.
     
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    You have your logic and I have mine. My logic comes from Malcom X. House negreos v. field negroes. I refuse to dilute my Blackness by referring as non-white person. You go on and continue to define yourself as non-white. I don't define myself based on defining the other (white). I am not trying to correct the wrong thinking of brainwashed black people. I am working on correcting my own actions that are detrimental to my survival as a black person. Not as a non-white person. This is my last word in this thread. I have moves I need to make starting today.
     
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    Peace!
    Brother 'O' and Brother 'Ed' I am one of those trying to blend my Malcolm awakening with my Fuller awareness. Unbeknownst to you both, and you are 'individuals' who are light years beyond many us including myself. I am attempting to spritually incorporate the clarity of Malcolms words which were spoken so many decades ago, and I am able to see where with the steely logic of Brother Neely Fuller, who it appears also heard those same speeches and masterfully constructed his great work around many of those themes and conditions. His clarion call to united independent codification requires that I at least try to meld these concepts. Malcolm has infused me with an awareness of my dangerous ignorance, and I have for thirty years challenged myself to grow based on his speeches, and I am still learning. Brother Neely Fuller has provided me a concept that allowed me to begin a structured codified approach to tearing down the walls. Brother Omowalejabali and Brother Edward Williams, the best thing that could happen to us here is if you two brothers time permitting were able to synthesize your visions. I won't say any more, but I hope you are feeling me!
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    Brother Prizmm, thanks again for your response and insight. I think that even though many of us share alot of things in common the differences at times I find irreconsilable. There is a collection of brother Malcolm's speechs but hold up. I need to start making a change here. So, just as I refer to brother Kwame Ture, as Kwame instead of Stokely, I need to refer to brother Malcolm as brother Malik el Shabazz. Brother Malik's speeches are contained in a book entitled 'The End of White World Supremacy' and it is for this reason that the 'logic' or Dr Fuller doesnt resonate with me. I go to primary, Master teacher first. And in the order of my Master Teachers Dr. Fuller is way down on my list. In fact, I have never met Dr. Fuller, heard him speak, outside of chat here, so I cannot put Dr. Fuller's teachings before Malik Shabazz, Elijah Muhammad, Heuy P. Newton, Kwame Nkrumah, Frantz Fanon, Dr. Ben Yochanan, Cheikh Anta Diop, Dr. Francis Cress Welding, Ernie Smith, Runoko Rashidi, Legrand Clegg, Kwame Ture, Khalid Muhammad or Louis Farrakhan and Steve Biko.

    The difference for me is in the category of ACTION as opposed to ideology. If Dr. Fuller represented a mass movement or mass organization then I would have some measure to determine the effectiveness of his teaching. This is not to dismiss his work but grass-roots organizing is more of an indicator of my own ideological framework.

    Since I am also won who has a difference of opinion in relation to others also on the issue of self-defence (see poll on thread Can We defend Ourselves against Re-enslavement) I also have difference of opinion and ideological orientation in regards to the viewpoints concerning the victimization of Black people.

    If I dont see myself as non-white (rather I don define myself as such), if I dont believe that white supremacy is the major obstacle to Black liberation, and if I dont view white people as being superior to the mass of humanity then I see no common ground between some of us without a proper and viable organizing framework. Personally, I find it practically impossible to incorporate Dr. Fuller's teaching within my own independent action. Its like some of us speak Swahili, some Arabic, some Zulu and others Youruba. Some of us historically have identified with cultural nationalism. Some revolutionary nationalism. Some black capitalism, others African socialism. Bottom line my makor battle is not countering racism but battling against my own demons. One forces me to look inward, the other necessitates me looking to external cause which I view as the effect of our own spiritual weakness. Peace.
     
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    Don't allow the word "black" to become more important than what you're seeing.

    Did Malcolm X solve the Race problem?

    Who produced the "house negro"?

    Who produced the "field negro"?

    "Dilute your blackness???" Is your skin color the exact same color as a black crayon?

    Are you attempting to say that you're a black person, but you are not a Non-White person?
     
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    I wont continue to debate with some of you on this. You have your perspective and I have mine. As stated before when I see some mass movement or mass organization produced on the basis of 'non-whiteness' then I will adjust my perspective. And in reference to you question concerning the 'race question' brother Malik al Shabazz ORGANIZED more Black people than all of you combined. And this leads me to ask. Has Dr Fuller or anyone since brother Malik 'solved the race problem'??!
     
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