Black Spirituality Religion : Hanged man a symbol for matyrs

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  1. Blackbird

    Blackbird Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Many people wear crosses or rather crucifixes around their neck to emphasis their Christian faith.

    As Black people, would you wear an image of a hanged black man around your neck to emphasis your awareness of our past history?

    I am intrigued by the practice of hanging our people in America - those strange fruit dangling from the poplar tree. In that time of overt persecution, abject fear and unruly mobs of uncivilized obrunis, I have come to derive a strength from. A symbol of matyrs is my hanged man - more relevant to me as a Black man than any image given to me from those who hanged my folks.

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    WoW Brother Blackbird! That is a DEEEP question and sentiments shared.

    And....it DOES make some good SENSE as well.

    I suspect, it could even awaken many to the realities of the life we as a people have and continue to live. Same way the cross is used as a reminder of someone's "sacrifice".

    I sure 'hope' many more read and respond to this question and thread as I'm interested in hearing others thoughts and response to the question posed.

    I sense many ways wearing such a symbol could be HELPFUL to the "Cause". What "cause":?: Well, Liberation of course! Liberating one's mind from the illusions of inclusion in this smelling society...(as I experience it) for starters.

    Thanks for Sharing your thoughts and for the question...


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    sounds masochistic.. don't forget that they were often castrated and burned also..
    the penis was usually stuck in their mouths..

    and don't forget.. the hanged man from which you derived your symbol
    was given to you.. your symbol is a representation of their crime against
    your people.. their crime.. that means the symbol is from them.. It is an
    interesting concept though.. I'd be interested to hear about how it grants you
    strength.. sincerely.


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    It RE~presents a Reflection them and their acts BACK TO THEM….FREEing self from the burden of carrying it.

    It does not “mean” this to me. And while is is “from them”, we symbolically REMEMBER what we may not want to Forget….Less….

    “A history forgotten is doomed to be repeated” (I can not recall the source)

    That's just for....

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    so, the symbol is for them (whitefolks). not for you. So, by crude comparison, a raped
    man should make a symbol of himself at the damaging
    painful conclusion of his attack, and wear it as reminder to his attacker..
    thereby removing the burden from his psychic self? he could do that but
    that's masochistic.. not that there's anything wrong with masochism. But I
    don't believe that it's healthy. Not that it has to be.. to each his own..

    You have to remember that many of those white communities made post cards
    of pictures of burned and castrated African men. What good would a symbol
    be to a people that have no conscience.. nor shame? They may actually
    enjoy it.. we can't forget about the sadism of white-supremacist culture..
    it's definitely there..
     
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    As a Systems Theorist,Thinker and Practitiioner, I Respect the Both/And (Duality) nature inherent in all.

    I would work to support him with VERBALIZING the Story in this regard and context. Just as "everything ain't for every body", so we each have a unique style of expressing ourselves. I believe this stems from that truly "individual" characteristics and is given by the Creator..or however one views "God".
    As a Truamtologist, I Recognize and facilitate folks with ..."remembering and telling the truth about terrible events is a PREREQUISITE for Restoration of Social Order and Healing of individual victims.(Herman, 1994)...to what is intended and needed.
    After the story is told, space is provided for the Creation of a New Story. That is the end goal...to LIVE a New Story.

    OK

    Ummm Hmmph.

    OK...


    I DO know that and much more about them and what they've done to the whole of WE....EVERYWHERE WE BE...
    I'm talking GLOBALLY...

    Maybe nothing..I'm not responsible for that part..just the part I can control...AND..ther's STILL the psychological benefit of it being a REMINDER FOR ME...in this way and WE will REMIND EACH OTHER...same way was witht eh Cross...Time to Teach the Youth the TRUTH

    And that's THEIR ISH and I'll LEAVE IT RIGHT THERE!
     
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    hey.. don't be pulling words apart like that :)
    this aint the bible.. it took me 38 years to
    put those words together.. and here you go
    ripping em apart... happy new year.. True..

    :qqb014:


    and that was the first time I ever used a smilie..
    and probably the last.. I need to make some
    brown ones with afros and dreadlocks..

    peace.
     
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    Ok let me se what I can do:)
    I'm not a christian so I'm not sure bout the bible deal like that
    and Happy "new year" right Black at ya!
    and THANKS so much for the :qqb014: and know you are the
    first man to "cross my threshold (mind) this year and it has
    supported me with Recovering from my Alexathymia :wink:(I'll try and find time to post a link for that reference if you like and are not aware of the term or the meaning I hold with it).
    AND you GOTTA KNOW...

    I'M SO WIT DA DREADLOCKED BROWN COLORED SKINNED FACES!!
    :bowdown:

    Stay Safe!

    M.E.
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