Black People : Gun violence in Chicago DOWN 23% this year

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  1. Kadijah

    Kadijah Banned MEMBER

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    Gun violence in Chicago is down 23% this year and is at its lowest in 50 years, since 1964. This figure includes the AK-47 attack in the predominantly Hispanic neighborhood where 13 people were shot at a neighborhood basketball game in the Back of the Yards over the weekend. The perception of increased violence is NOT the reality.

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    NOTE: Notice in the video how shots of the injured and then residents in the neighborhood (approx. 50% Hispanic, 35% black and 15% whites) show ONLY blacks (the media skewing the "perception") while people milling around the park where the shootings occurred are of all races.

    The phenomenon of gangs started in America with white gangsters during Prohibition. Its birthplace, Chicago, today has approximately 600 gangs. Mainly black and Latino, there are very few (if any) white gangs in the city. Thus, the solution to the problem of gang warfare lies not in looking at blacks and Latinos, rather by looking at the whites who started them. Why have Italians, Jews and the Irish, mainly immigrants at the time of Prohibition, seemingly abandoned them? What is different today for the great-grandsons of those groups that they feel no need to follow in their ancestors' footsteps? :thinking:

    While thinking about that, ask yourselves why are whites arrested AND convicted, nationally, for drunk driving at a rate of 7 times greater than blacks? Then factor in the REALITY that cops let whites off with 'warnings' (upping their drunk driving from an official 7 times to an unofficial, and conservative, estimate of 10 times MORE criminal behavior than blacks, 99% of whom stopped are cuffed on the spot). Why? Is not "crime," crime? :10500: They've been killing each other, us, and anyone who gets in their way through vehicular homicide for close to a Century, killed more people while Driving Under the Influence than Al Capone ever did with his and his cohorts' gangland violence. So why haven't black people taken up the criminal mantle of Vehicular Homicide and surpassed whites? What are the factors involved.... for each race?

    There is, however, one fact that can be pointed out that Chicago seemingly shares with no other big city when it comes to gun violence - namely, that you are more likely to be arrested and convicted of shoplifting than of shooting someone with a gun. People who shoot other people are RARELY arrested and almost never convicted. In short, it's not so much the proliferation of guns, but that with exception of "retaliation," there are rarely consequences to gun violence. Few shooters go to jail, gang-bangers or otherwise. So although Chicago gun violence has gone down 23% over the past year, it is NOT due to the criminal justice system.
     
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    “Gun violence in Chicago is down 23%”. I wish the main stream media would report this.
     
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    Kadijah Banned MEMBER

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    Normally a tread, heck, even a POST about gun violence in Chicago brings a slew of comments. Is the reason this thread is so "barren" (75 views and only 1 comment)because some REAL "thinking" is requested rather than kneejerk opposition or co-signing? :10500:
     
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    I agree there.
     
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    It always seems like the more positive news in the forum gets the least amount of activity. Tsk, tsk. :10400:
     
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    I can only guess it's because of a Obama crony being the mayor and them hyping their stands against black on black violence, i. e., to appease our black relations, etc., is why the recent shooting has become a real pr issue/problem/etc. for them both...

    FYI
     
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    Under the banner of inclusion etc., the other Party dares to imply and suggest the struggles have been won, whereas new struggles need to begin...

    Mere inclusion of a handful only makes us slaves to new masters...

    So, all power to the people, in our lifetimes!

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    Five killed, eight wounded as Chicago's violence rages on

    By Alexandria Fisher, NBCChicago.com
    At least 13 people have been shot, five of them fatally, in Chicago since Friday, police said.
    The weekend violence came just one day after 13 people were injured in a Chicago park.
    The victims included 10 males and three females, including 3-year-old Deonta Howard -- known as "Tay-man" -- who was shot in the jaw and listed in critical condition.
    See original story on NBCChicago.com

    Chicago Police Superintendent Garry McCarthy said an assault style rifle with a high capacity magazine was used in the park shooting.
    McCarthy added that based on witness interviews, the attack appears to be gang-related, as several of the victims are gang members. It is still unclear whether more than one person opened fire, he said.

    No one was in custody for the shooting as of Saturday morning.
    The weekend's most recent shooting took place just after 5 p.m. Saturday when two people were shot in the Englewood neighborhood.
    Police said the shooting took place near 69th Street and South Racine Avenue, where a 19-year-old man and a 22-year-old man were shot.
    Chicago Police News Affairs said their conditions were not known and no further details were available on the shooting.
    Around 5:35 a.m. Saturday in the 11800 block of South Lowe Avenue a 51-year-old man was shot in the stomach.
    The man claimed he heard gunshots and felt pain, according to Chicago Police News Affairs Officer Jose Estrada.
    He was transported in serious condition to Advocate Christ Medical Center in Oak Lawn, according to authorities.
    Around 4 a.m. Saturday, a man was shot over a parking spot in Chicago's Gold Coast neighborhood.
    The shooting occurred in the 0-100 block of East Chestnut Street when a 41-year-old man was shot in the abdomen, police said.
    The shooter fled in a white car and the man was taken in serious condition to Northwestern Memorial Hospital, according to Chicago Police News Affairs Officer Michael Sullivan.
    An hour earlier, two men were shot in the 1200 block of West Washburn Avenue, police said.
    A 22-year-old man was standing on the sidewalk when he heard shots and felt pain, Sullivan said. The man was transported to John H. Stroger Hospital in critical condition where he was later pronounced dead. A second victim, a 23-year-old man, transported himself to the hospital with a wound to the leg.
    Around 1:20 a.m., police said a 30-year-old man was exiting the driver’s side of a vehicle when another car drove by and fired several shots.
    The man was transported to Mount Sinai Hospital in serious condition.
    On Friday, a 37-year-old man was walking in an alley around 11:10 p.m. in the 6000 block of South Halsted Street when an offender fired shots from behind, police said.
    The man was transported to Mount Sinai Hospital in serious condition.
    Earlier Friday, a 21-year-old man was fatally shot in the head in the 6600 block of South Honore Street.
    Police said an offender wearing a black hoodie and blue jeans fired shots at the man around 6:30 p.m. and fled the scene.

    The man was pronounced dead at Stroger Hospital.




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    Although I wasn't looking for sensationalism (we have enough of that!), thanks for posting the story associated with the OP.

    So what do you think was in the shooters' minds when they went on their rampage?

    Why them and not some white boy?

    What's a solution to the problem of gang violence?

    What should Chicagoans do to get the criminal justice system to arrest and prosecute the offenders.... or should they?
     
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