Haiti : Great read on Haiti/Dominican Republic

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  1. bientempo

    bientempo Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Don't know what happened forum on Haiti but am starting a new thread with this recent research done by a former Peace Corp Worker he is a cultural anthropologist who has been working in Haiti and the Dominican Republic since the 1970’s. The best part is he is fluent in both Creole an Spanish, and able to interpret phrases with the correct meaning for both countries, not just literal interpretation.

    This is one of the best I have ever read. It's 50 pages an you will need to read it in its entirety in order to get the greatest understanding.

    http://www.danieloneil.com/Our_Border/Dominican-Haitian Racial and Ethnic Perceptions and Sentiments.pdf
     
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    Concerning the regularization of foreigners, we are having the following problem with providing help to Haitians. The Dominican Republic has waived the fees charged for residence applications. BUT the Haitian government has the following costs for documents. Which in fact most Haitians in the country cannot afford. These prices are in US dollars.
    We cannot provide residency without these documents.

    http://www.almomento.net/articulo/164760/Haitianos-se-quejan-cobros-embajada

    SANTO DOMINGO -. Haitians in Dominican Republic complain that its embassy in this country requires them $ 80 for the renewal of a passport, to receive in three months, $ 100 if they wish in particular delivery month, and $ 50 the birth certificate.
    Also criticized its diplomatic representation has not created an information service, as only the secretary offered them information on the side of the embassy.
    It was learned unofficially that Haitians in Dominican Republic awaiting a decree that would give its Haitian President Michael Joseph Martelly, according to the forward, pay $ 50 for the issuance of the passport and birth certificate.

    SANTO DOMINGO.- Los haitianos en República Dominicana se quejan de que su embajada en este país les exige US$80 por la renovación de un pasaporte, para recibirlo en tres meses, US$100 si lo desean en entrega especial de un mes, y US$50 por la certificación de nacimiento.
    Criticaron, además, que su representación diplomática no haya creado un servicio de información, ya que solo la secretaria les ofrecía datos por el lado de la embajada.
    Se supo de manera extraoficial que los haitianos en República Dominicana esperan un decreto que habría de emitir su presidente haitiano, Michael Joseph Martelly, con el que según adelantaron, pagarían 50 dólares por la emisión del pasaporte y el acta de nacimiento.
     
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    The Dominicans are much more concerned with racial differences than Haitians, the article begins.... and yet.... and yet, their "perceptions" of Haitians is barely affected by Dominicans notions of race.

    Uh huh. If this is the "executive summary" of the report, no need to read further. The bias is just too overwhelmingly evident. SMH
     
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    Maybe just maybe you need to read the report without your bias. Or paraphrasing the summary so it agrees with your biased view.
     
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    Kadijah Banned MEMBER

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    No, it is the summary that is biased. If not, the author does not articulate his/her position well, thus, no need to be tortured by the rest.

    Btw, I did paraphrase the summary, to which you are objecting, as well as copied and pasted the summary in its entirety for all to make their own opinion on.
     
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    Got it the Dominicans wear black hats, and the Haitians wear white hats. nuf said.
     
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    No such thing. I simply said I found the "Executive Summary" to be slanted wholly toward the Dominicans, i.e., written from a Dominican perspective ONLY, thus suspect. To wit: Anytime a person can say Dominicans are color-conscious among themselves, but color plays no appreciable role in Dominicans' consciousness about Haitians.... not "don't" but CAN'T believe that. If the premise of the study is faulty, the study is built on sand.

    No disrespect.
     
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    no disrespect taken but the writer is not writing from a dominican perspective, Still think you need to read the report rather than just the summary, as then you will see where the writer is coming from.
     
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    Haitian an OAS plan to provide documentation to Haitians living in the Dominican Republic who have no documentation
    http://www.oas.org/en/media_center/press_release.asp?sCodigo=E-273/14

    The Secretary General of the Organization of American States (OAS), José Miguel Insulza, today received the President of Haiti, Michel Martelly, who reiterated his firm commitment to hold elections on October 26 of this year, in accordance with the political agreements made with other political forces in his country.

    During the meeting, President Martelly explained that he has taken the necessary steps to make certain that these elections are held and requested the support of the OAS to ensure that the electoral process complies with all due guarantees. In addition, he asked the Secretary General to send an Electoral Observation Mission (EOM) to the elections, in which Haitians will choose 20 Senators, 112 Deputies, and local authorities.

    For his part, Secretary General Insulza committed the support of the Organization and the timely deployment of a preliminary mission, in accordance with Article 25 of the Inter-American Democratic Charter, to back the holding of free and fair elections, in a process planned for October. The Secretary General also offered to organize an Electoral Observation Mission in a timely manner.

    On a separate issue, the OAS leader delivered to President Martelly an action plan to support the Government of Haiti in providing identification for Haitians residing in the Dominican Republic without documentation. The action plan was prepared at the request of the President of the Dominican Republic, Danilo Medina, and the Prime Minister of Haiti, Laurent Lamothe.

    The “Diagnostic for the Identification of Haitian Migrants Residing in the Dominican Republic,” drafted by the Universal Civil Identity Program in the Americas (PUICA) of the OAS, proposes concrete steps to provide birth certificates and National Identification Cards to an estimated 200,000 undocumented Haitian migrants living and working in the Dominican Republic. The project, which is expected to least for a year and a half, will include 23 offices and a mobile unit to reach faraway communities.

    Providing legal documentation to Haitian migrants represents the first step in the regularization of their residency status in the Dominican Republic.
     
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