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.......Yes, I agree sister cherryblossom, there is a two-fold issue on the table, the future political life of our first black President and the current economical plight of American citizenry; as the former goes, so goes the latter, both dodging bullets.

no one is dodging anything but the truth

As former governor Jesse Ventura stated, this whole
stage show of Democrat vs Rebublican

is about as real as WWF


Most Americans are no longer buying into the good cop bad cop routine
 

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Well, my "Thank You" was specifically for you sharing the information.


But, ultimately, IMO, it is the American people who "dodged the bullet."

Moreover, I am interested in what "Budget Cuts" were agreed upon to avoid the shutdown.

An even greater decrease in funding for Education and Health Care more than military spending (or none at all) does not bode well for our children and our Elders.

In order to avoid the shutdown, they opted to "borrow/steal from Peter to pay Paul."
Exactly,he GOP , has not asked for anything unless they were alreay made to feel comfortable about asking it, by conservative and blu dawg democrats for the past 2 years
 

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In the Spirit of Sankofa and Update!

Government Shutdown 2011 Shut Down


Besides giving a flawless and excellent presentation, President Barack Obama dropped a bomb:


Here's what Obama called for in his "Framework for Shared Prosperity and Shared Fiscal Responsibility":


One quarter of the deficit reduction to be achieved through tax increases, with the rest to come mostly from spending cuts--a split that the president's liberal base may see as still too heavily tilted toward spending cuts
An end to the Bush tax cuts for the 2 percent of Americans making $250,000 or more

Tax reform aimed at closing loopholes that favor the rich
, allowing for a lowering of overall rates, as recommended by the Bowles-Simpson deficit reduction commission

Cuts of $770 billion by 2023 to non-security discretionary spending, another Bowles-Simpson recommendation

Cuts of $400 billion to "security spending"--that is, defense--by 2023
A rejection of the Ryan budget's approach to Medicare and Medicaid, which the White House believes would unfairly shift costs to seniors and the vulnerable while undermining both programs in the long term. Instead, Obama proposed reforms to reduce the growth of health care spending (beyond those in the overhaul last year) that would save $480 billion by 2023, and at least an additional trillion in the decade following

Cuts to other mandatory programs--the White House listed agricultural subsidies, the federal pension insurance system, and anti-fraud measures--worth $360 billion by 2023

A general effort to "strengthen Social Security for the long haul," without slashing benefits for future generations

A "debt failsafe," to kick in by 2014
. If long-term deficit projections aren't looking better by that time, the failsafe would trigger an across-the-board spending reduction (with exceptions for Social Security, low-income programs, and Medicare benefits)

The creation of a committee chaired by Vice President Joe Biden and including members of both parties and houses of Congress, to begin meeting next month in order to "agree on a legislative framework for comprehensive deficit reduction"



http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_thelookout/20110413/ts_yblog_thelookout/key-from-the-speech-whats-in-obamas-deficit-reduction-plan





Barack Obama




My President is Black
 

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they've been saying the gov't was gonna shut down since 2008. every six months there is a new date
 

Clyde C Coger Jr

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they've been saying the gov't was gonna shut down since 2008. every six months there is a new date
In the Spirit of Sankofa,

.......First, welcome back Tha 144,000 and congratulations on your new book; hopefully, you aren't saying its never happen and is unlikely. Ironically, President Obama is reliving elements of the last shutdown:

The United States federal government shutdown of 1995 and 1996 was the result of a conflict between Democratic President Clinton and the Republican-controlled Congress over funding for Medicare, education, the environment, and public health. It took place after Clinton vetoed the spending bill that Congress sent him. Thereupon, the federal government of the United States put non-essential government workers on furlough and suspended non-essential services from November 14 through November 19, 1995 and from December 16, 1995 to January 6, 1996. The major players were President Bill Clinton and the Speaker of the U.S. House of Representatives Newt Gingrich.

United States federal government shutdown of 1995 and 1996

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_federal_government_shutdown_of_1995_and_1996

Peace In,
 

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I'm going to go with Krugman on this one. If one party can effectively hold the country hostage, democracy can't work like it's supposed to.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/01/opinion/the-president-surrenders-on-debt-ceiling.html

It's definitely happened before on this large a scale (shutting down the government vs. making it impossible to be legislatively productive in the short term).

While I agree that conservatives in the U.S are responsible for a lot of this mess, I can't help but forget the inability of the democratic party to be a bit more assertive when they hold the house majority. I guess it's a fair point to make that the democratics in the U.S tend to actually have discussions / disagreements along legislative lines while the conservative members of congress for the most part are an angry hive arm of corporate/wealthy interests.
 

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I'm going to go with Krugman on this one. If one party can effectively hold the country hostage, democracy can't work like it's supposed to.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/01/opinion/the-president-surrenders-on-debt-ceiling.html

It's definitely happened before on this large a scale (shutting down the government vs. making it impossible to be legislatively productive in the short term).

While I agree that conservatives in the U.S are responsible for a lot of this mess, I can't help but forget the inability of the democratic party to be a bit more assertive when they hold the house majority. I guess it's a fair point to make that the democratics in the U.S tend to actually have discussions / disagreements along legislative lines while the conservative members of congress for the most part are an angry hive arm of corporate/wealthy interests.
In the Spirit of Sankofa,

.......Krugman makes very valid and salient points; Mr. Obama gave in to ruthless Republicans bent on serving him a one-term Presidency, by the Norquist pledge, no new Taxes.

As a result, the ship could sink, unless both sides wake up: America is the Fall before Rome.

Peace In,
 

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