Black People : Good and Evil, only a matter of perspective????

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  1. Natinr

    Natinr Banned MEMBER

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    "Good and Evil are only a matter of perspecive!"

    Is that the slogan of the oppresor or the oppressed?
     
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    Bro. Natinr- every "thing" in this 3 dimensional Universe of sight, sound and Mind- is related to perspective. History teaches us that "Good and Evil" is a matter of perspective. What many of us now view in our daily lives as "good" was once in some point in time considered "evil."

    From our experience, "slavery" is evil is it not? But how are we defining slavery? Does slavery only pertain to living conscious beings? And if so how are these beings defined. You see, there is the rub. Because for example, Africans were not defined as living conscious beings, so "slavery" was good. Just as, right now, machines are not defined as living conscious beings. Aren't machines slaves to Humans? And without going that far, slavery is still alive. The fact that we work so consistently our entire lives for basically nothing at the end of our life cycle is in fact- slavery. We have 65 year old Elders so-called "re-tired" yet trying to get "re-hired" because they have absolutely nothing to show for their life time of labor.

    So is "slavery" evil? Or is "slavery" good? That would depend on perspective wouldn't it? Perspective is how we define ourselves along side our reality.

    Let's see, what else do we classify as evil. How about our right Genocide. Yet we as Americans indirectly sponsor Genocide ever hour on the hour. Are we evil? Not consciously perhaps, but we do fund evil intentions. $500,000 an hour goes into the War in Iraq. Meanwhile millions of us are suffering right here because of the lack of resources. Isn't that evil? In any "good" book it has to be.

    But yet American patriotism is looked at as good isn't it. It's good to support ones country, no matter the actions. Every one goes off to work and returns home without a single thought about how we fund this empire. No one puts any plans in place to bankrupt or boycott the empire. No. Because that wouldn't be any "good."

    What else do we classify as good or evil, let's see. How about some good Sex, that Man or Woman having the good "stuff." Black people in the world egotistically brag on who good our stuff is sexually- yet our families are in need of repair. Isn't reproduction "one" of the first steps to creating a family and a nation? How good is our sex if we can't use it to build a nation? Yet the race with the so-called smallest penis on the planet is multiplying like jack rabbits. Go figure.

    Let's start thinking logically about this Human experience.

    Do all that you are required to do to survive for this generation and generations to come. There is a healthy choice, and there is an unhealthy choice. What is unhealthy for you in most cases is unhealthy for all of us. Especially if we are of like bodies and minds.

    The word "evil" is the word "live" backwards. Meaning to live against life and nature / cosmic law. "the evil" also "D-evil" is only a "characteristic" not any one individual character. Just as "GOD" as in "Go-od" is also a characteristic not any one individual character. This means these attributes can be assigned to any living thing or idea, even ourselves.

    People do good, and they also do evil. People are God and the also are the Devil. People live backwards against nature and cosmic law, and they also spiritually evolve using natural law. The directional gravitational pull towards the Devil or God depends on the will of the spirit. In all of this we forget that life whether spiritual or physical is in a state of eternity- these dramas continue on and on into forever. Some of us who now play good, were once very evil. Some of us who now play evil were once very good. It all depends on where you need to be, or what you desire to do at the end of your life cycle. Life is used as a stage to act out our spiritual dramas.

    Of course it's true that not all spirits in this world are as knowledgeable as others. If Europeans understood spiritual reality they would've never enslaved Africans. But European has never understood spiritual reality fully has it?

    Because by enslaving Africans they christened their faith. In time, because of cosmic law Africans would have to regain all the power taken away from them. This is because the Universe does not create waste, and all things taken away must be returned to it's rightful place.

    It's like the Mother or Father who expresses their anger by beating the life out of the child at any moments notice. For just about anything. Later on in their old age they wonder why they are afflicted with so many illnesses, or why they are in a one room apartment and no one comes to visit.

    These are not acts of coincidence, this is law. We can do anything we wish in life. We all have divine will. You can make any choice you want to make. You can kill, you can steal, you can rape, you can enslave- the world is yours. But before committing any action, we should all be knowledgeable of the law, that whatever we do in life returns to us- forever, because we are infinite just like the Universe itself. All thoughts, all actions are our children.

    So are we creating the actions we want to return to us?

    If we want prosperity, we have to learn how to give and create prosperity. Good and Evil is a matter of perspective. We have to learn how to read reality. All the actions and thoughts we are creating and producing right now are creating a destiny. Just as the actions and the thoughts of older generations produced the reality we are living right now. How is it that the extermination of millions of people is still seen as something good? While in history it is recorded as something evil?

    This is because while living this life people are programmed not to care about who or what is being killed off, as long as it is not them or their kind. And this is where "good and evil" loses it's ground. Because we are "trained and taught" what good and evil is. Just as the Father can teach the young child that sex with an Adult is good. Or the Mother trains her mind to see that new dress as good meanwhile there is no food in the house.

    Let's learn to read reality for what it is. It starts with knowing our perspective, knowing our TRUE desires without influence from outside "signals."

    IE- know thy self.
     
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    It works well for the oppressor and keeps the oppresed disenfranchized.

    The bulk of the people usually find themselves in the role of either being "managed" or oppressed in some sort of configuration. The minority (regardless of benign or nefarious intentions) usually are the architects of cognition or the purveyors of the dominant cultural construct. The catch phrase : " good and evil are relative" nuetralizes any possibility of the critical mass to be or act as an empowered collective and the minority designers whind up projecting programs into the collective will via "culture" that covertly dia-gnose (to make make known) what it is that is good or bad and then codify it into a system of mechanical laws to be enforced. (well thats my piece ... whether you from six duece or Five 9 Brims or seasoned academian) ...
     
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    George W Bush

    BASICALLY SAID THE SAME THING YOU JUST DID, A LITTE WHILE AGO
    infact that is how the Neocons, maintain power with what George Orwell called double speech.

    The Black folks on this board are intelligent and perceptive enough to read through your little con game!
    Black folks are too alert to buy THIS BILL OF GOODS,
     
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    Natinr Banned MEMBER

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    This remids me of Cotton Comes to Harlem

    And how, at the end of the movie, the Black community found out who and what;
    "REV" Deke O'Malley really was :SuN017:
     
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    the question beneath the question is: is there an absolute?

    if you believe there is an absolute or god or something, then no, they are not a matter of perspective.

    if you believe everything is everything and it is all a spiritual soup, the everything is relative to you.

    i beleive in absolutes: :1on1:
     
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    Bro. Natinr, we do agree on that. The Black folks on the board are indeed very intelligent. This is why we all gather here to listen, study, educate- and most of time - to be entertained. We are very familiar with "double talk" here. Even with the "Con-Man" concept you describe. I wonder what could be more of a Con. Please define your argument more clearly. Rather than rejoice anymore in your own juices. Provide for us a case, some statement of clarity to present your argument.

    Simply calling someone a ConMan because you many not agree with their statements is at best part of the rhetoric of the lest among us at Destee. If you truly respect the forum, as you claim you do- you would've already recognized the correct formalities for your inquiry. Give us more credit.... wait please don't allow me to make the same mistake by speaking for an entire group...give me more credit than that.

    Are you asking because you truly want to know the opinions of others, or are you asking only to trample over those you may not agree with?

    I would find any response interesting actually. Because it relates to the thread. I myself do not believe in absolutes. Yet I am begotten by many who do. I don't see the world from my perspective alone. Yet millions do, and there is nothing wrong with that. A bridge is required here. Not between so-called good and evil, or good vs. evil. But between different thinkers.

    We have already proven that good and evil is all about perspective right here at Destee. I'm sure I'm not the only one reading all these threads.
     
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    And so do the vast majority of us across the globe
    To My understanding, and from my various studies, in traditonal African religions, and classical African Culture,
    that is the basis of African Spirituality:terrific:
     
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    I will argue with all of my ability

    ..... ...On this board, or any board, on the phone, or face to face, or on a street corner;
    with anyone, friend, family or foe who will say;
    1. that good and evil are relative,
    while Malcom and Martin died fighting evil
    2. That the desire to help one another comes from a misguided understanding of spirit
    3. and that dudes from outerspace can help Black folks develop thier emotions
    4. and that an organization developed by a man with NSA connections and the recipient of the efforts of Operation Paperclip(Nazi) and the OTO could be of any benefit to Black folks.
    5. And to say the purpose of life,
    is not altruism or collective support and understanding, but to;
    "CREATE the emotions and thoughts IN others that We want" (what does that sound like foks???)

    As I stated before the Illuminati is an equal opportunity employer, that is why I do not get caught up in the Black- White issue
     
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