Black Spirituality Religion : God comes in human form for a multi-dimensional program

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  1. dattaswami1

    dattaswami1 Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    God comes in human form for a multi-dimensional program. He preaches divine knowledge covering all humanity including atheists. Miracles are mainly for atheists alone and some atheists have been converted into theists through the miracles. God receives the services of certain blessed devotees, who had done a lot of penance with that desire. He selects for His service only such a blessed soul, who has done a lot of penance in the past.

    The human incarnation mainly comes here only to fulfill the desire of such blessed devotees. Having come to earth for that purpose, He always tries to uplift all through the divine knowledge and miracles. The few exceptional blessed devotees are pleased to serve the Lord personally and see the pleasure on the face of the Lord, for which they did a lot of penance for several births. This is the main purpose of the visit of God in human form to earth.
     
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    where do you get this stuff from?

    no "miracles" for the rest of us huh?

    a real miracle would be the ending of the child like nature we have when

    it comes to where this is and why this is i'm speaking of this universe

    this is not easy to watch, why does god NEED human form when he's GOD?

    :insane:
     
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    dattaswami1 Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Is it possible for God to come in Human form?


    How can one argue that the Lord cannot come down in the human form? If He is incapable of doing so, He cannot be omnipotent. One need not argue that though the Lord is capable, there is no necessity of such human form. You may not have that necessity.

    Are you the only human being on this whole earth? Have you taken the opinion of all the human beings to say like this? There are several devotees who belong to Nivrutti and desire for the Lord in human form to see (Darsanam), to touch (Sparsanam), to hear the knowledge and clarify their doubts (Sambhashanam) and to live along with the Lord (Sahavasa) for achieving these three for a long time. The main purpose is preaching the divine knowledge and clarify the doubts.

    The statues or photos or energetic forms or space cannot preach the knowledge and that is against the universal observation (perception). Preaching of the knowledge by the human forms of the Lord like Krishna, Jesus etc is observed universally and accepted perception. Such universal observation is according to the rules of the nature. When something is possible through a simple way by following the rules of the nature, is it not foolish to do the same simple thing in the complicated way violating the rules of the nature? When water is available in plenty from the tap, what is the necessity of producing water by forcing Hydrogen and Oxygen to react with the help of an electric arc? To show the production of the water by this reaction, this experiment can be performed once but not every time whenever water is required. To show the super power of the Lord a statue or a photo or the energetic form or even formless space may talk once.

    But to preach the spiritual knowledge continuously, the Lord need not talk continuously through statues or photos or energetic forms or space. Some devotee might have experienced such super power in some place and in some time. Such experience is not supported by simultaneous universal observation. When you are seeing the moon in the sky, others are also observing the same moon simultaneously. This is required to authorise any experience. When this authorisation is absent, your experience may be true or might have been due to some psychological disorder. The existence of such psychic experience is also observed in this world. Therefore we cannot isolate the possibility of these two cases in your experience

    Therefore there is a necessity for the human form of the Lord and since the Lord is omnipotent, He is coming down in the human form. There cannot be any further argument on this point. I know you are worried that the Lord is modified into the human body and thus the unchangeable Lord has to be changed. Do not worry about this point, because the Lord is never modified into the human body. He only entered into the human body. The word “Asritam” in the verse of Gita “Manushim tanumasritam” means the entry of the Lord into the human body and not the modification of the Lord as a human body. Lord Krishna in Gita clarified this in the verse “Avyaktam Vyaktimapannam”.


     
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    that's the problem TOO MANY WORDS

    first off using "HE" is a bad sign, then you said he "needs" to "come down"

    come down from where? "he" is in ALL, "he" is OMNIPRESENT if he's omnipresent why does he need to come down then,

    this is the rhetoric, meant to confuse and harp on fear

    and in the statement i quoted from you is a contradication

    first you say how can one argue that the "lord" cannot come down, then you go on to say IF "he" is incapable of doing so, WHICH IS IT?

    first you say how can one argue, now it's IF he is incapable

    i have a better question

    ARE YOU THE ONLY "HUMAN" ON EARTH?

    you give me words and top of words

    see it's stuff like this quote

    how can you say the "LORD" (a term which i do not like to use) need not talk

    continuously, when the energy is a constant?

    i don't expect you to feel what i say because i didn't confuse you enough

    peace
     
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    dattaswami1 Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Coming down is not in physical sense. This entire creation is just an imagination of God and is a dream for HIM. Thus compared God this universe is nothing or almost nil. Hence only God is truely existing. Such God enters into His imagination in human form taking up a human body.
     
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    well wake him up people are in great need down here
     
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    There are definitely no more human incarnations that the Holy Son will come as, for He came once as He did to be a sacrifice for our sins so that we might have salvation, and after He was resurrected from the dead, He ascended to the right Hand of the Father on High.

    That is where the Son is, and He comes no more as a human incarnation to satisfy believers. For, those who truly have faith in His way, and those who truly do believe in His works and resurrection, will be satisfied in how He chooses, and not in how we'd please.

    The Son will come again, but not as a human incarnation to convert men, but just as He stated He would; for His faithful and His elect. Believe and have faith, doing holy works to keep His Way. Blessings!
     
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