Black People : go home toms and tommetts

Discussion in 'Black People Open Forum' started by Therious, Jan 25, 2005.

  1. Therious

    Therious Banned MEMBER

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    if u support the white movement, if u support bush,if u disagree with anything that ispro black...why do u post?im reading things like when the oil theft a.k.a. war is over Iraq will b our allies. this is truly a pathetic case of oreoism, please stop currupting this forum. and get out... :horse: :wchair:
     
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    Oreoism? I've never heard that one before....going to have to write it down!
     
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    Brotha, you forgot the :bus:, :getout:, and :bye: icons!

    But I hear you Brotha!

    CD
     
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    that's a good one ( Oreoism) i feel you here speak on !
     
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    Brother Therious ... bless your sweet heart ... i feel what you're saying, but i can't fully agree with it. Let me explain ...

    If a Sister or Brother "supports" the "white movement," Bush, or disagrees with anything that is pro Black ... that does not make them any less a Sister or Brother, in my opinion. I know i'm going to get some flack on this, but i truly believe that we have to see past our differences to ever experience the unity we seek. Notice i put into quotes, "supports" and "white movement" as these are really very vague terms ... too vague in my opinion, to throw a whole Sister or Brother away.

    There are so many ways to support an effort, and oftentimes we don't even realize we are "supporting" it ... i'd imagine that there are many cases when a Black Sister, Brother, or Family are simply trying to survive in what i've begun to think of as "Massa's House" ... the United States of America.

    All of us in it, support it to some degree or another. Each of us that works, pays taxes, builds lives and Families, support the "white movement." I think we are all "house negroes" to coin a famous phrase ... as the United States of America, is "Massa's House," ... and we are in it. For any one of us to look at the other and say, you are not worthy to be considered down with Black folk, because you do this, that or the other, is ridiculous in my opinion. We are all in the same boat ... or house, in this case. All contributing and supporting its success in one way or another.

    Now we can look at the Sister or Brother that enlists to fight in the military, and say they are sellouts or some such foolishness ... but do we consider ourselves sellouts, because we pay the taxes that buy the bombs that are being dropped on the innocent folk in Iraq, or pay the salaries for the enlisted? No, we don't count that. I have actually seen where folk have come down really hard on these young people, who are only looking for better options, a way out of the traps and snares laid ... yes, they have come down hard on them, never admitting that they too were once a part of that military system, and still reaping the benefits of it.

    Another thing that comes to mind, as i think on this topic you've presented, is the great diversity within the "Black Community." I can narrow that down to the "African American Community," as it is smaller. Even within it, we don't all agree. We have lots of issues to overcome, just with each other. While we're trying to do this, the world continues to change and grow. There are other groups within the "Worldwide Black Community" that are experiencing the same challenges we are, yet we must try to unite with them (and they with us), while each works on solving their own internal problems. We must begin to think globally, and not just our own backyard. In doing this, it requires us to prioritize the energies we have to give. I think we'll find that we won't want to waste it on the "little stuff."

    If we have folk in the "African American" community saying, "kick that African American out, they aren't down with us because they think this way or that" ... how will we ever experience the greater global (Pan African) unity that can be ours, by bridging the gaps with the other "Black Folk" from around the world ... who have their own rich cultures and diverse opinions? We have so much work to do that i don't believe we can stop and focus on whether a Sister or Brother "supports" something that we don't. So what, they are still a Sister or Brother. Why not focus on those who do support what you support? If we are honest with ourselves, we will probably all admit to "supporting" something that someone thought we shouldn't, at one time or another in our lives.

    If your wisdom is strong, and your ability to persuade, lead, and guide is as sharp as it can be ... you can move that same Sister or Brother over to your side of thinking ... simply by showing them an alternative way, and if not you, perhaps another Sister or Brother can ... but i don't believe throwing them away is the answer. And who knows, if you can't persuade them, they may drop some profound knowledge on you, that will give you an entirely different perspective on the situation, if you're willing to listen ... and if all else fails ... you can agree to disagree, while continuing to live together peacefully and respectfully. There is always more than one option.

    Brother Therious, how deep do we go, when we begin kicking folk out because they "support" this "white movement?"

    I caution you to think on this carefully, as it is quite possible that none of us would be allowed here.

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    Destee
     
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    I agree with Therious on this one. There are so few people here on this site that fit the description of Oreoism, that if they were not here, it would be of little consequence. IMHO
     
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    I think it's childish to resort to name calling.

    It does absolutely nothing to move us forward as a people, if that is the ultimate goal.

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    Who's name calling?
     
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    Referring to folk as "Oreoism" ... "Toms & Tommetts" ... is name calling .. isn't it?

    I know you'll correct me if i'm wrong. :)

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    Hey Bro what up....


    Though I didn't vote for Pres. Bush nor do I agree with his brand of leadership the reality of the situation we got him for 4 more years. So that gives us 4 years to raise a candid that will address our needs and concerns. So in the meantime brothers and sisters that fell for the hype must be brought back to reality. Reality is Bush isn't good for the majority of white folks either. The whole country is suffering. I still can't understand how so many people could be that blind. This wasn't even a black or white thing it was a performance things. The past term Bush has sunk the country into a costly war and more debt. I know white republicans that didn't vote for Bush and he still won. Anyway Bruh we must approach our indifferent brothers and sisters in a different way. Kicking them out is not the solution. It's funny and sometime relieves our frustations but not the solution. Oreoism. Now that's funny. What is the white agenda? Is that where white people take everything and step on our necks leaving us with nothing? Well they've try it and succeeded for a while but now the boot is off our neck and they don't have everything but they still have the upper hand for now. Bruh we can't afford to burn any bridges though some brothers and sisters have to be placed on the back burner in a need-to-know status. We can't do them like "Drop Squad" either. You remember that movie? Not one of Spike's best. So lets not be so extreme and administer corporal punishment on our brothers and sisters quite yet. Hey I gave my brother-in-law your number and told him to give you a call for carpet service, so if he can use your service hook him up with a military discount.....please bruh.. Ha! Ha! Ha!


    Peace


    Radical Faith
     
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