Pan Africanism : Give it 25 years Africa should be gone.

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  1. dustyelbow

    dustyelbow Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Such great confidence out there in this world. Who actually owns this world?


    AU warns of danger of decimating Africa


    Africa would be decimated in 25 years unless it managed to achieve solidarity and put forward a common agenda, African Union commission chairman Alpha Konare warned on Thursday.

    Addressing the Pan African Parliament in Johannesburg, he said, "If things do not change, the situation will be hopeless and in 25 years to come, we will see the wiping out of our continent."

    He continued: "If there is no solidarity... this continent will burn. If we don't take responsibility, it will be our own suburbs, our own homes that will burn."

    Konare bemoaned the slow pace of putting in place AU institutions such as an African court of justice and central continental bank, saying it was time for Africa to take responsibility for itself and adopt a common front.

    There were few individual national solutions to problems plaguing the continent today, such as diseases, environmental degradation and peace and security, he said.

    Foreign nations were taking advantage of Africa's "lack of harmonization" to turn its people into consumers rather than producers, and to dump medicines and other products not wanted by the developed world.

    In working with international institutions like the United Nations, World Bank and International Monetary Fund, there was no option but for African nations to join forces and put aside questions of national sovereignty.

    Konare described Africa as a country of 30 million square km. In 20 years' time, it would have a population of over 1.3 billion, making it the third largest after China and India.

    He said the nation-state had shown its limitations in Africa. While Europe sought to build a federation of nation states in the form of the European Union, African states would have to reconstitute themselves into a Pan-African unit.

    Konare said it was imperative for the continent to move ahead with creating a common economic market, foreign policy and defense strategy.

    An African court of justice was urgently needed to promote the fight against "impunity".

    "If we don't do that, what would prevent people from taking us before non-African courts? We will be completely humiliated."

    Similarly, a central African bank was needed to handle the continent's debts, create coherence between national macro- economic policies, and provide financing guarantees.

    A common health policy also had to be developed, among others to deal with the spread of AIDS.

    The necessary resources should be made available for these endeavors to ensure they were effective and legitimate, Konare said.

    In the face of inadequate debt relief and unfulfilled promises of increased aid from the rich world, Africa would have to find alternative funding sources, he added.

    He advocated Africa taking responsibility for its own fate. Political leadership was required to this end, based on the fundamentals of democracy, human rights, peace and pluralism.

    "The African agenda will not be determined in New York, Brussels, Paris or London. They can help, but they cannot replace us."

    Africa was sometimes afraid to push its own values, like solidarity and consensus, and too eager to fashion itself after trends of neo-liberal globalization.

    "We could never build an African union if it is not primarily social." Africa too often sang to the tune of its foreign funders, Konare said.

    But on the other side, African countries were themselves slow to contribute financially.

    Only 15 of the AU's 50-odd member countries had made their contributions as provided for in the budget approved last year.

    Konare said Africa had to accept that there were leader countries in the common quest for continental solidarity. They were strong and had to be encouraged, but not allowed to become policemen of their peers.

    Source: Xinhua
     
  2. spicybrown

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    "Konare described Africa as a country of 30 million square km."

    Africa is a continent, not a country. It would be nice if it were unified to that extreme, without all of the biquering, and tribal pettiness. 25 years from now isn't that far.
     
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    Yes...unity is the key.

    But I don't want Africa uniting under Arabs or Berbers like Kadafi (spelling).

    Black people need to regain total control of the continent and utilize ONE LANGUAGE for the purposes of business, education, and health-care like the West did with Latin and is doing with English.

    We are too divided among ourselves and this I believe is the single biggest obstacle to our progress.


    We also have to learn to separate ourselves from our cultures and traditions.
    Turn it on and off when necessary.
     
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    tHE SITUATION IN AFRICA IS GRAVE. hOWEVER THE MUTHERLAND HAS SURVIVED FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS. DO U THINK IT WILL FALL IN TWENTY FIVE IF IT HAS ENDURED THESE PRESSURES FOR LITERALLY THOUDSANDS OF YEARS?

    IMO NO, IF THIS WERE THE CASE WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE LONG AGO.

    HOWEVER THE SITUTATION IS SEVERE , THIS IS A MOST CRITICAL TIME IN AFRICAN HISTORY. THROUGH OUT THE WORLD.

    ONE LOVE
     
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    That is all Bull!! He aint scaring no one into unity besides making a fool of himself. At the end of the day, Africans will unite if there was a real willpower. And the problem in Africa is that we are very divided. Do you think a borderless Africa is possible? Not when you have Congolese people freely allowing in Rwandans who might have killed Congolese people, or South African Labor Unions actually demonstrating against Nigerians being included in a Borderless africa. A borderless Africa is a construct of Africans who lived or still live in the Diaspora (including the likes of Kwame Nkrumah, Patrice Lumumba). Whether it has a realistic basis remains to be seen.

    What is better is for people to organize themselves in regional groups. West Africa has ECOWAS and the interborder mobility of the people is great. Thats one hope of a federation of countries in Africa. So also East Africa with a planned federation in 2006. But when you start going to southern africa, xenophobia is the hinderance to a full integration of the region or even the region with Africa all together
     
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    Don't believe the "Hype"*

    Hotep

    If Amerikkka is the worlds super power and Amerikkka is at war, that means the world is at war!,...World War III has already started! Along with war comes "propagandia" etc, and as quiet as it is not kept,...we (Africans) are the "Enemy". The opposition will always use scare tactics to spread fear and hopelisnes,..."That is their Job"!
    The real truth is, Africa is uniting and will soon become the United States of Africa. This is what your enemies are not going to tell you, because this is what we need to know and not what they want us to know.
    http://www.uniaf.org/zimbabwe.htm

    http://www.finalcall.com/artman/publish/printer_2269.shtml

    Ase`
     
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    it woke me up this morning:

    "...Africa should be gone." "should"??!!!

    er ... if you please, wouldn't "could be gone" be a better choice? this sounds like "the plan is in place and activated. it should come to fruition in 25 years". WTF!??!!
     
  8. dustyelbow

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    I dont want to believe this but really there are marginalized peoples (cultures, tribes, etc) and environments in Africa in real actual bodily danger and will be a thing of the past. Somebody showed me evidence of this happening based on visits reports etc and I was shocked at first but after thinking about it long enough it is very believable. I dont think Africa as a continent will be gone and there will be black people inhabiting it. But it will be definitely different from anything that happened in the past maybe as bad as slavery. So this member of the AU saying is just too strong but in my opinion it is looks to be plausible possibility happening slowly but surely with current trends.

    Now with African Union commission chairman Alpha Konare is proposing that Africa centralizes banking, political boundaries, etc this will definite accelerate the fires that are already burn there. Because that means Europeans will only have to deal with Africa from one place instead of the diverse countries in place basically lowering the cost of doing business in Africa like a bid Walmart store and small businesses. Small businesses just cant compete with Wal-mart. So everyone does their shopping there while their main street transforms itself into empty cuppards and are destined to never rise again.
     
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    The more I think about it, the more I believe outside influence is the main problem with Africa after all.

    Even worse than mis-management.

    Why?

    Because as poorly as a nation may be managed, the laws of nature determine that the strongest survive and the smartest and best eventually rise to the top.

    If outside intervention was halted and African people were FORCED to deal with thier own problems and come up with thier own solutions with absolutely no help or influence from outside.....I bet you would see progress in about 5 years time.

    Even with all the wars and genocide that may take place....eventually you'd see a steady improvement.

    The problem is too many people are relying on outside help instead of coming up with thier own solutions through trial and error and it's arresting the natural development of the continent.
     
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