Black People : Gay V. Straight

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  1. AACOOLDRE

    AACOOLDRE Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    GAY vs. Straight
    Cream puff vs. The True Man
    By Andre Austin

    The destinies of the two are mixed, the Homosexual & Heterosexual in this country, are indissolubly linked together, and the interests of both require that the common government of all shall not permit the seeds of Homophobic hate to be planted under the sanction of laws of discrimination. What can more certainly arouse Homophobic hate, what more certainly create and perpetuate a feeling of distrust between these different sexual orientations, than state enactments, which, in fact, proceed on the ground that gay citizens are so inferior and degraded moral standards that they cannot be allowed to work in the military, or hold many certain job reserved for the “True man” occupied by Heterosexual citizens? That, as all will admit, is the real meaning of such legislation as is enacted in many of the fifty States here in the good old USA.

    These Civil Rights were no different than the struggles Blacks had to face in the military and for certain type of Jobs in corporate American. The Civil Rights Violations were exactly the same infringing upon their 14 amendment rights of equal protection. The fundamentalist Christians because blacks were like leopards they couldn’t change the spots unless they came up with a black no more magical cream. The Gay man choose his own behavior and should face the hard rock life of discrimination. Well the last time I heard a citizen here in the good old USA was the home of the free and brave. All peoples have life, liberty and property and can live any way they want. The fundamentalist wants to blame the victim for the guilty who violate their rights. The Fundamentalist believe we wouldn’t have all these problems if all the queers just stayed in their closets. But what kind of freedom is that? Its not surprising to me. When you live in a fascist society we have:

    1. Rampant sexism and rigid gender roles with punitive sanctions for any deviations.

    2. Obsession with Crime and punishment. This results in a police state where the objective is to disarm every Blackman on the street.

    3. Glamorization of the Military. War mongering supersedes Patriotism.

    4. Blacks encourage to be in sports and entertainment. Gays expected to work so called gay jobs

    Conclusion:
    Equality under the law for all has no exceptions unless you’re a gay man.

    Notes:
    The first paragraph was lifted from Supreme Court Judge who dissented from the Plessey v. Ferguson law decided in 1896. I just wanted to demonstrate and prove how gay rights were similar to Black civil Rights. Very little words were changed.
     
  2. Kamau47

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    The words "civil rights" and "gay" do not belong together in the same conversation, let alone the same conclusion.
     
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    the strategy they are using is to their advantage and shows true planning

    for instance the rise and increase of Black teen homosexuality, of young Black men, seeking to emulate the closet lives of top billionaire rappers, to 12 and 13 year old lesbian girls almost becoming a norm, making up one out of 4 now,
    is a strategic ploy of Black population reduction, and the continuation of the agenda to destroy the Black family.
    In urban legends we talk about the hormones in foods causing young girlst to menstruate at 6 and 9 years of age, however there is the data previously posted about crtain basic household toxins that have caused ,
    actual statistical sex crossing in fish and frogs,

    who knows what it does to pregnant women in contact wth such toxins


    The civil rights ish is a brilliant ploy to ensure a white male only corporate environment, that can reverse all affirmative action we have died and suffered to atain.
    Once attaining minority status a coproration or business can return to all white male, by claiming white male gays as their quota of minorities
     
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    John Marshall Harlan was that Supreme Court Judge who dissented...

    In your comparison, how are any denied "civil rights" of gays connected to a "badge of servitude" and "degrading?"
     
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    Gays are not denied entrance in the military.

    How are gays "injured" by "Don't Ask. Don't Tell?"

    And what other "jobs" are gays not allowed to do?
     
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    People need to stop seeing homosexuality as evidence of immorality. It is not Immoral to have a different sexual orientation. End Story.

    And yes, there are similarities in the black civil rights movement of the 1960's to the recent Gay Rights movement of this contemporary era.
     
  7. info-moetry

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    huh?


    would you please state your reasons why you feel this to be...
     
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    Of course! Gladly!

    1) There are similarities in the civil rights movement of the 1960's because there are people against it saying that gay marriage will ruin straight marriage, just as there were racist rights saying that black people shouldnt have the right to vote for reasons x y and z. Ultimately I get the feeling they are similar in the sense that these people who were against blacks getting rights and those that today are against gay people having the right to vote are ultimately on the wrong side of history.

    2) It is not immoral because people are born that way and if they arent born that way then they might be forced into it by extreme abuse from a member of the opposite sex.

    I hope that made some sense for you. ^_^
     
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    peace

    I see what you are trying to say, but i do strongly disagree with it.

    1) People are not born "gay" or homosexual, unless you are saying that the "creator (s)" is/are confused...

    2) The "gay" movement and the civil rights movement don't even belong in the same sentence much less the same conversation! The short version, the civil rights movement was a fight for JUSTICE for ALL. The "gay" rights movement is a selfish fight for "gay" individuals to be allowed to do what "gay" individuals want to do up to and including getting married. They use the civil rights movement as a crutch to give their movement more and more momentum.

    The long version:

    Check the history of those who came down from the Caucus mountains -
     
  10. HyperKill

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    People who support "gay rights" are some of the most morally bankrupt people on earth. Many of the gays I have questioned about their "sexual preference" admit to me that as young as age 12, they were "made Love too" by an adult. Many, not all are victims of an older person's sexual advance at a young age and had their gender role confused and manipulated. Also a gay person doesn't have to teach homosexuality to promote it. Think about this way. If they marry, then they will have the eventual right to adopt. These adopted kids will go to school with your kids. These adopted kids will see a daily example of man on man or woman on woman relationships and perceive it as normal. Over time your kids will be coaxed over n2 thinking it's ok to lip kiss other boys/girls because the adopted kid from the gay house says my dad and dad do it all the time. i can see it now, some ruffian kid beats the VaJesus out of a kid from an adopted gay home and the gay parents, both male, click clack to school in their pink sweaters and hi heels to sue for a hate crime because your child resisted and was "homophobic" to the "loving" kid who came from the gay house that was trying to show him "love". The gays know this well and rarely mention it when they speak of their "rights" to convert all of society transgenders and homosexuals. It ain't foolin me one drop. If this becomes legal, it'll be another massive step down hill for all of America.
     
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