Black Poetry : GA AND BLAKVERB WHAT IS HAIKU IT'S SO SHORT OF A SORT BUT YALL EXPLAIN PLEASE

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  1. MADDRAPPER

    MADDRAPPER Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    GA AND BLAKVERB WHAT IS HAIKU IT'S SO SHORT OF A SORT BUT YALL EXPLAIN PLEASE
     
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    Madd, my rhyme sayin' brother,

    a haiku is a poetic form of Japanese origin with the syllabic structure of 5-7-5. That would be 5 syllables compose the first line, 7 the second, and 5 the last, giving you 17 total syllables. If i'm not mistaken haiku's originally were to show the connection with nature (or something like that) but as you can see there are exceptions to that. Try it brother, it's definitely a challenge because you must convey a complete thought, feeling, or what have you in such few words or in this case syllables. Test yourself, I'll be looking out for the "Maddrapper haiku."

    one love, blak
     
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    thank you MADD for the question
    thank you Blak for the answer

    :heart:

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    MADDRAPPER Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    no problem destee i just had to know for real
     
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    UbZoRbShUn Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Well said teacher Verb I found a lil mo

    Madd I hope this help




    Here we go:
    1. Seventeen syllables in one line.
    2. Seventeen syllables written in three lines.
    3. Seventeen syllables written in three lines divided into 5-7-5.
    4. Seventeen syllables written in a vertical (flush left or centered) line.
    5. Less than 17 syllables written in three lines as short-long-short.
    6. Less than 17 syllables written in three vertical lines as short-long-short. (Ala Barry Semegran)
    7. Write what can be said in one breath.
    8. Use a season word (kigo) or seasonal reference.
    9. Use a caesura at the end of either the first or second line, but not at both.
    10. Never have all three lines make a complete or run-on sentence.
    11. Have two images that are only comparative when illuminated by the third image. Example: spirit in retreat / cleaning first the black stove / and washing my hands
    12. Have two images that are only associative when illuminated by the third image. Example: fire-white halo / at the moment of eclipse / I notice your face
    13. Have two images that are only in contrast when illuminated by the third image. Example: two things ready / but not touching the space between / fire
    14. Always written in the present tense of here and now.
    15. Limited use (or non-use) of personal pronouns.
    16. Use of personal pronouns written in the lower case. Example: i am a ...
    17. Eliminating all the possible uses of gerunds (ing endings on wording).
    18. Study and check on articles. Do you use too many the's? too little? all the same in one poem or varied?
    19. Use of common sentence syntax in both phrases.
    20. Use of sentence fragments.
    21. Study the order in which the images are presented. First the wide-angle view, medium range and zoomed in close-up. (Thanks to George Price for this clarification!)
    22. Save the "punch line" for the end line.
    23. Work to find the most fascinating and eye-catching first lines.
    24. Just write about ordinary things in an ordinary way using ordinary language.
    25. Study Zen and let your haiku express the wordless way of making images.
    26. Study any religion or philosophy and let this echo in the background of your haiku.
    27. Use only concrete images.
    28. Invent lyrical expressions for the image.
    29. Attempt to have levels of meaning in the haiku. On the surface it is a set of simple images; underneath a philosophy or lesson of life.
    30. Use images that evoke simple rustic seclusion or accepted poverty. (sabi)
    31. Use images that evoke classical elegant separateness. (shubumi)
    32. Use images that evoke nostalgic romantic images. Austere beauty. (wabi)
    33. Use images that evoke a mysterious aloneness. (Yugen)
    34. Use of paradox.
    35. Use of puns and word plays.
    36. Write of the impossible in an ordinary way.
    37. Use of lofty or uplifting images. (No war, blatant sex, or crime)
    38. Telling it as it is in the real world around us.
    39. Use only images from nature. (No mention of humanity.)
    40. Mixing humans and nature in a haiku by relating a human feeling to an aspect of nature.
    41. Designation of humans a non-nature and giving all these non-nature haiku another name.
    42. Avoid all reference to yourself in the haiku.
    43. Refer to yourself obliquely as the poet, this old man, or with a personal pronoun.
    44. Use no punctuation for ambiguity.
    45. Use all normal sentence punctuation
    : = a full stop
    ; = a half stop or pause
    ... = something left unsaid
    , = a slight pause
    -- = saying the same thing in other words
    . = full stop
    46. Capitalize the first word of every line.
    47. Capitalize the first word only.
    48. Capitalize proper names according to English rules.
    49. All words in lower case.
    50. All words in upper case.
    51. Avoid rhymes.
    52. Rhyme last words in the first and third lines.
    53. Use rhymes in other places within the haiku.
    54. Use alliteration. Example by Calvin of Calvin & Hobbes: twitching tufted tail / a toasty, tawny tummy: / a tired tiger
    55. Use of words' sounds to echo feeling.
    56. Always end the haiku with a noun.
    57. Write haiku only from an "ah-ha" moment.
    58. Use any inspiration as starting point to develop and write haiku. (These are known as desk haiku.)
    59. Avoid too many (or all) verbs.
    60. Cut out prepositions (in - on - at - among - between) whenever possible; especially in the short 1/3 phrase.
    61. Eliminate adverbs.
    62. Don't use more than one modifier per noun. This use should be limited to the absolute sense of the haiku.
    63. Share your haiku by adding one at the close of your letters.
    64. Treat your haiku like poetry; it's not a greeting card verse.
    65. Write down every haiku that comes to you. Even the bad ones. It may inspire the next one which will surely be better.
    *** This article was recently published in Romanian in the periodical for The Constanta Haiku Society -- Albatross.
     
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    MADDRAPPER Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    **** UbZoRbShUn now I'm really confused now GA AND BLAKVERB HELP!
     
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    Madd

    If you are still confused - do a 'search' on the internet for the word "Haiku"....how-to's, then go and find some examples of how they look and read up on it...
     
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    I'm sorry

    I thought I was helping. Just remember 5-7-5.
     
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    UbZoRbShUn oh so just ignore all the other stuff ok I'm getting ready to do one right now honey watch me
     
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    Went Back and Found This Thread

    in case anyone was wondering what a Haiku is
    since we seem to be in Haiku mode

    thought I'd go back and grab this peace
    so we can know how they spoze ta be

    and I still haven't seen MADD's Haiku

    and ... and ... and

    5 syllables in the first line
    7 syllables in the second line
    5 syllables in the third line
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    equals Haiku


    right?

    :heart:

    Destee
     
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