Black Hebrew Israelites : Fraudulent Christian Weekly Sabbath Debunked

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  1. TruthHitman

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    THE TRUE BIBLICAL HEBREW SABBATH IS ONCE A MONTH NOT WEEKLY

    The Hebrew 7th day is thought to be every week by mainstream Christians but is it really every week or is it a misunderstanding of scriptures and a misunderstanding of early Hebrew culture?

    I will prove this statement with historical accounts and Hebrew history that the weekly Sabbath is a misunderstanding of early Hebrew culture.

    First I will quickly show the Calendar system of the early Hebrews. The Hebrew calendar was based on a Lunar calendar system used predominantly for religious observances. It determines the dates for Jewish holidays and the appropriate public reading of sacred text, and daily Psalm readings, among many ceremonial uses. In Israel, it was used for religious purposes, provides a time frame for agriculture and is an official calendar for civil purposes, although the latter usage has been steadily declining in favor of the Gregorian calendar or Solar calendar.

    In the early Hebrew calendar, months are based on lunar months not the Solar calendar which modern day mankind uses and Rome used, there is a difference.

    The beginning of each Hebrew lunar month is based on the appearance of the new moon.

    What is the New Moon?

    The new moon is the first phase of the Moon, when it lies closest to the Sun in the sky as seen from the Earth. The Moon is not normally visible at this time. Every New Moon marked the beginning of a new month in the Hebrew culture.

    Here are the scriptural examples of the Hebrew lunar calendar.

    1. Genesis Chapter 1-14
    And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years.

    2. Psalms Chapter 104-19
    He appointed the moon for seasons: the sun knoweth his going down

    3. Apocrypha ECCLESIASTICUS Chapter 43 -6-8
    He made the moon also to serve in her season for a declaration of times, and a sign of the world.
    From the moon is the sign of feasts, a light that decreaseth in her perfection.
    The month is called after her name, increasing wonderfully in her changing, being an instrument of the armies above, shining in the firmament of heaven.

    Now the question remains did the Hebrews practice a Sabbath on
    every Friday the answer NO! HELL NO! lets prove it.

    First lets understand the Extinct Culture of the ancient Hebrews starting with their month to month practice of the New moons and Sabbaths.

    Lets first find out how they observed the beginning of Every month.

    The new moon signifies the start of every Hebrew month, and is considered an important date and Sabbath holiday in the Hebrew calendar.

    The following verses Gives you clear description of keeping the New Moon at the beginning of every month as a Sabbath:

    1. Numbers Chapter 28-11
    And in the beginnings of your months ye shall offer a burnt offering unto the LORD; two young bullocks, and one ram, seven lambs of the first year without spot

    2. Numbers Chapter 10-10
    Also in the day of your gladness, and in your solemn days, and in the beginnings of your months, ye shall blow with the trumpets over your burnt offerings, and over the sacrifices of your peace offerings; that they may be to you for a memorial before your God: I am the LORD your God.

    This scripture in Amos proves the Hebrews kept a New Moon sabbath every month.

    3. Amos 8-5 "Saying, When will the new moon be gone, that we may sell corn? and the Sabbath, that we may set forth wheat,"

    According to the historical records the Hebrews celebrated the New Moon Sabbath on the first day of Every month. Then 7 days later they celebrated the HOLY SABBATH in which the daily sacrifice stops no sacrifice of animals on this day.

    The prophet Ezekiel gave us the best understanding on the Hebrew culture new moons and how and when the sabbaths were observed giving us CLEAR understanding and connecting with the words of Moses in Exodus Chapter 20- 8-10

    Ezekiel Chapter 46-1
    Thus saith the Lord GOD; The gate of the inner court that looketh toward the east shall be shut the six working days; but on the sabbath it shall be opened, and in the day of the new moon it shall be opened.

    lets review Ezekiel said that every new moon(1st day of the Month) the Gates of the inner court of the Temple WILL BE OPEN and 6 days from the New Moon it will be closed then opened on the 8th day of every month which is the HOLY SABBATH

    Example:
    1 day of Every month is a New Moon Sabbath. Now count 7 days from the New Moon
    thats 8, the 8th day of every month was a Holy Sabbath not once a Week but once every 8th day of the month

    Now compare this info too exodus account

    Exodus Chapter 20- 8-10
    8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.
    9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:
    10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:

    Grammar note: notice the scripture keeps using the word Sabbath day in the singular not plural
    That means one, one day out of 30 is a Holy Sabbath.

    Six days you will work that means the Temple would be closed as well for 6 straight working days

    Understand!

    SHALAM Truth is life
     
  2. TruthHitman

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    Shalam my friend good lets talk about this subject get more people this needs to be discussed seriously.

    I will explain lev 23 but first I have too ask if you know the difference between a Ceremonial Sabbath and a HOLY Sabbath? THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT AND NO ONE SPEAKS ABOUT THIS DIFFERENCE

    1) Ceremonial Sabbaths: Are "REST" days in which we do not work nor buy or sell BUT we still can sacrifice animals. Those Ceremonial Sabbath feasts are called New Moon Sabbaths which occur EVERY 1st of the Month, PASSOVER, FEAST OF UNLEAVENED BREAD, FEAST OF FIRST FRUITS, FEAST OF PENTECOST (WEEKS), FEAST OF TRUMPETS, DAY OF ATONEMENT, FEAST OF TABERNACLES.

    Numbers Chapter 28-9-11
    9 And on the sabbath day two lambs of the first year without spot, and two tenth deals of flour for a meat offering, mingled with oil, and the drink offering thereof:
    10 This is the burnt offering of every sabbath, beside the continual burnt offering, and his drink offering.
    11 And in the beginnings of your months ye shall offer a burnt offering unto the LORD; two young bullocks, and one ram, seven lambs of the first year without spot;

    2) HOLY Sabbath in which we do not WORK nor BUY and SELL nor sacrifice of animals or seething meat (Exodus 16-23) if you read that scripture it refers to a HOLY Sabbath that type of Sabbath is only once a month 7 days from the New Moon festival Sabbath which occurs every 1st Month.

    Holy Sabbath: No Sacrifice of Animals

    Exodus 35-3
    3 Ye shall kindle no fire throughout your habitations upon the sabbath day.

    Exodus 16-23
    23 And he said unto them, This is that which the LORD hath said, To morrow is the rest of the holy sabbath unto the LORD: bake that which ye will bake to day, and seethe that ye will seethe; and that which remaineth over lay up for you to be kept until the morning.

    Now lets go to Leviticus I will show you how it all fits together

    Leviticus 23 is written to give us understanding of the
    feasts of the Lord it takes place in the month of March here is the calendar with all the feasts including the HOLY Sabbath:

    March 1 New Moon Sabbath celebration = No Working, no Buying, no selling. Animal Sacrifice Allowed

    2. Second day of the Month which would be day one work begins.

    3. Third day of the Month which would be day two Hebrews working buying and selling.

    4. Fourth day of the Month which would be day three Hebrews working buying and selling.

    5. Fifth day of the Month which would be day Four Hebrews working buying and selling.

    6. Sixth day of the Month which would be day Five Hebrews working buying and selling.

    7. Seventh day of the Month which would be day six Hebrews working buying and selling.

    8. Eight Day of the Month HOLY SABBATH NO WORK NO SELLING NO SACRIFICING OF ANIMALS or Seething of Meat.

    March 9-13 Hebrews working buying selling daily chores

    March 14 Passover -Ceremonial Sabbath or REST
    March 15 FEAST OF UNLEAVENED BREAD 7 day festival Sabbath No buying or Selling daily Sacrifice of Animals still takes place.

    March 22 starts the FIRST FRUITS Work Begins on this day

    March 23 starts the 50 day Pentecost

    Scriptures that show the feast of unleavened bread is a Festival Sabbath:

    Now I will address Lev 23 verse 15 and 16 the common errors in understanding old english text


    15 And ye shall count unto you from the morrow after the sabbath, from the day that ye brought the sheaf of the wave offering; seven sabbaths shall be complete:

    16 Even unto the morrow after the seventh sabbath shall ye number fifty days; and ye shall offer a new meat offering unto the LORD.

    Explanation

    now the morrow after the sabbath What Sabbath? not a weekly Sabbath but the last Sabbath of the Feast of Unleaved Bread which is a Ceremonial Sabbath not a Holy Sabbath!

    After the last Sabbath of the Feast of Unleaved Bread starts the first fruits or "the day that ye brought the sheaf of the wave offering"

    So by the time you get to the First fruit you SHOULD HAVE ALREADY completed 7 consecutive Ceremonial Sabbaths

    Grammar note: Complete is Past Tense in verse 15 meaning you should have completed 7 consecutive unleaved bread Ceremonial Sabbaths

    Also Read the Great Josephus proves the Sabbath was Once A Month

    Josephus:

    CHAPTER 10. Concerning The Festivals; And How Each Day Of Such Festival Is To Be Observed.

    1. The law requires, that out of the public expenses a lamb of the first year be killed every day, at the beginning and at the ending of the day; but on the seventh day, which is called the Sabbath, they kill two, and sacrifice them in the same manner. At the new moon, they both perform the daily sacrifices, and slay two bulls, with seven lambs of the first year, and a kid of the goats also, for the expiation of sins; that is, if they have sinned through ignorance.

    see one Day out of the month the priest kill TWO he did not say this happens every 7 days

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  3. TruthHitman

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    My friend your understanding is OFF It seems that you did not understand my last 2 posts.

    See you are posting irrelevant info, I just proved that the Holy Sabbath and New moon Sabbaths are once a month I am not talking about PASSOVER, FEAST OF UNLEAVENED BREAD, FEAST OF FIRST FRUITS, FEAST OF PENTECOST (WEEKS), FEAST OF TRUMPETS, DAY OF ATONEMENT, FEAST OF TABERNACLES. those ARE NOT done every 7 days they are not even really celebrated.

    I am addressing the Fact that the Hebrews DID NOT HAVE A HOLY Sabbath EVERY FRI or SUNDAY thats what I am addressing that is PAGAN!

    Now if you want to discuss if the 2,3,4,5,6 days of UNLEAVENED BREAD are Ceremonial Sabbaths then lets discuss that BUT as for what Moses said in Exodus about the HOLY Sabbath 6 days you shall work I proved its 7 days from the New Moon Sabbath PERIOD EVERY month REGARDLESS

    So lets discuss Unleavened bread 7 consecutive ceremonial Sabbaths


    This is your comment "There are no writings (at least not aware of) to claim something to be done every seven days"

    Thats incorrect Lev 23 tells you what happen lets go over it again

    Lev 23 -15
    15 And ye shall count unto you from the morrow after the sabbath, from the day that ye brought the sheaf of the wave offering; seven sabbaths shall be complete:

    Question

    1. What Sabbath is he speaking of in this verse?

    Answer: its the LAST DAY of the Feast Of Unleavened Bread which is a Sabbath

    Lev 23 -7-8
    7 In the first day ye shall have an holy convocation: ye shall do no servile work therein.
    8 But ye shall offer an offering made by fire unto the LORD seven days: in the seventh day is an holy convocation: ye shall do no servile work therein.

    Thats the Last Sabbath or the 7th Sabbath do you understand this?

    So according to verse 15 by the time you get to the day AFTER the 7th Sabbath which would be the 22 day of March called First Fruits you should have ALREADY completed 7 Sabbaths of the Feast of Unleavened Bread

    Verse 16 says the same thing

    Lev 23 -16
    Even unto the morrow after the seventh Sabbath shall ye number fifty days; and ye shall offer a new meat offering unto the LORD.

    Once again it says the day after the 7th Sabbath of the Feast of Unleavened Bread you shall start to number 50 days After the 7th Unleavened Bread Ceremony that means:

    March 22 Starts first Fruits then you start your count 50 days after
    so the last day new meat offering would begin on May 11, 2015

    understand! this has NOTHING to do with a WEEKLY Sabbath or a Holy Sabbath

    Still not understanding? I will let Luke tell you that the 2,3,4,5,6, days of the Unleavened are considered Sabbath No Work No Selling o those Days period

    Luke 22-7
    7 Then came the day of unleavened bread, when the Passover must be killed.
    8 And he sent Peter and John, saying, Go and prepare us the Passover that we may eat.

    Note: Passover meaning the Meal not the 14th Day Passover

    Christ was taken and beaten by the Pharisees on the night of the 1st day of the Unleavened Bread Mach 15

    The Next Day March 16th Christ was given to Pilate

    Mark 15 - 1
    1 And straightway in the morning the chief priests held a consultation with the elders and scribes and the whole council, and bound Jesus, and carried him away, and delivered him to Pilate.

    Christ was Crucified on the 3rd hour on March 16 2 day of the feast of unleavened bread.

    Now was this Day considered a Sabbath

    Answer: YES

    This scripture proves Christ died on the 2 day of the Feast of unleavened Bread which is considered a ceremonial Sabbath.

    John 19 - 31
    31 The Jews therefore, because it was the preparation, that the bodies should not remain upon the cross on the sabbath day, (for that sabbath day was an high day,) besought Pilate that their legs might be broken, and that they might be taken away.

    John 19:13-14

    13 When Pilate therefore heard that saying, he brought Jesus forth, and sat down in the judgment seat in a place that is called the Pavement, but in the Hebrew, Gabbatha.
    14 And it was the preparation of the Passover and about the sixth hour: and he saith unto the Jews, Behold your King!

    note: Passover meals were eaten along with Unleavened Bread during this 7 consecutive day Sabbath Ceremony

    John 19 - 42
    42 There laid they Jesus therefore because of the Jews' preparation day; for the sepulchre was nigh at hand.

    Luke 23- 50,52,53,54
    50 And, behold, there was a man named Joseph, a counsellor; and he was a good man, and a just:
    52 This man went unto Pilate, and begged the body of Jesus.
    53 And he took it down, and wrapped it in linen, and laid it in a sepulchre that was hewn in stone, wherein never man before was laid.
    54 And that day was the preparation, and the sabbath drew on.
    56.And they returned, and prepared spices and ointments; and rested the sabbath day according to the commandment.


    Proven! There ARE 7 consecutive Sabbaths that must be done by the time we get to the day of the First Fruits

    Do you Now Understand!

    SHALAM!
     
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    If you read Exodus 16:13-30 it speaks of Israel gathering manna for Sabbath. There is no cooking or working done, so on the sixth day they received twice as much,enough for two days. Manna was rained down for 6 days,but not the seventh. It says they gathered it everyday, but on the sixth day they gathered twice as much. in Luke 13:14 the Pharisee said that there are six days for man to be healed, but not on the Sabbath. He was wrong, but this shows that even to them there was a literal interpretation of six days.
     
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    Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.------Colossians 2-8

    See my friend you do not understand the Hebrew culture and your misunderstanding the culture. This subject was never talked about or taught mainstream Christians follow a Weekly sabbath every Fri or Sunday.

    There is no scripture thats said to do a Sabbath Every 7 days no one has ever proved it. So lets start over again this is how they did it.

    Lets talk to Ezekiel he will show you how the Hebrews did their sabbaths

    Ezekiel Chapter 46-1
    Thus saith the Lord GOD; The gate of the inner court that looketh toward the east shall be shut the six working days; but on the sabbath it shall be opened, and in the day of the new moon it shall be opened.
    lets review Ezekiel said that every new moon(1st day of the Month) the Gates of the inner court of the Temple WILL BE OPEN and 6 days from the New Moon it will be closed then opened on the 8th day of every month which is the HOLY SABBATH

    Example:
    1 day of Every month is a New Moon Sabbath. Now count 7 days from the New Moon
    thats 8, the 8th day of every month was a Holy Sabbath not once a Week but once every 8th day of the month
    now compare this info too exodus

    Exodus Chapter 20- 8-10
    8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.
    9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:
    10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:
    Crammer note: notice it keeps using the word Sabbath day in the singular not plural

    That means one one day out of 30 is a Holy Sabbath.

    Six days you will work that means the Temple would be closed as well for 6 straight working days

    So lets review with the info we just went over and APPLY the knowledge we haved learned to answer Exodus 16 - 13-30


    See, for that the LORD hath given you the sabbath, therefore he giveth you on the sixth day the bread of two days; abide ye every man in his place, let no man go out of his place on the seventh day.
    30 So the people rested on the seventh day.------Exodus 16:29-30

    So on the first of every month the Hebrews had a New Moon Sabbath then for 6 straight days they picked manna then on the 6th day which would be the 7th day of the month the picked double the amount becasue the next day was the HOLY Sabbath.

    Then the next days after the Holy Sabbath 9-30 they still picked manna EVERY day but there were NO MORE SABBATHS until the 1st of Next month which was a NEW Moon Sabbath then 6 days later they picked double because the next day was the HOLY SABBATH

    Understand!

    SHALAM! TRUTHHITMAN
     
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    Hello my friend ok! lets start over again I will answer your questions

    Your question: "Did Moses and the Children of Israel have "first day convocations" prior to being given the "Laws and Statutes"?"

    answer: According to Joesphus the Hebrews knew their culture because it was passed down from generation to generation starting from Abraham.

    Your question: "how does one conclude that they observed the 1st day, and then counted the next day as the first of the 7 days... which on the 7th (one suggests it to be the 8th) they were to rest."

    answer: I will prove(with scripture) that the Hebrews practiced a New Moon Sabbath EVERY 1st of the Month OK!

    This scripture in Amos gives us a CLUE; the Hebrews kept a New Moon sabbath every month.

    3. Amos 8-5 "Saying, When will the new moon be gone, that we may sell corn? and the Sabbath, that we may set forth wheat,"

    Well as you can READ you could NOT BUY or Sell on the First of Every Month and the 8th of every Month which is the HOLY SABBATH

    this is why The Holy Sabbath is on the 8th Day of every Month

    The prophet Ezekiel gave us the best understanding on the Hebrew culture new moons and how and when the Sabbaths were observed giving us CLEAR understanding and connecting with the words of Moses in Exodus Chapter 20- 8-10

    Ezekiel Chapter 46-1
    Thus saith the Lord GOD; The gate of the inner court that looketh toward the east shall be shut the six working days; but on the sabbath it shall be opened, and in the day of the new moon it shall be opened.

    lets review, Ezekiel said that every New Moon(1st day of the Month) the Gates of the inner court of the Temple WILL BE OPEN right do you agree?

    Then he also says the the Gates would be open on the SABBATH as well

    THAT WOULD BE SEVEN DAYS APART RIGHT? DO THE MATH

    1 DAY OF EVERY MONTH THEY HAD A NEW MOON SABBATH
    6 days from the New Moon SABBATH WOULD BE THE 7TH DAY OF THE MONTH RIGHT?

    THE NEXT DAY WOULD BE THE 8TH DAY THAT WOULD BE EXACTLY WHAT MOSES SAID SIX DAYS YOU WORK(6 DAYS FROM THE NEW MOON SABBATH) BUT ON THE SEVENTH DAY THERE WAS ONE AND ONLY ONE HOLY SABBATH.

    THIS SCRIPTURE HERE WILL BRING IT HOME FOR YOU

    Isaiah 66-23

    And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the LORD.

    SEE UBNATURALLY ISAIAH JUST GAVE US ANOTHER CLUE OF THE HEBREW OBSERVANCE OF THE NEW MOONS AND HOLY SABBATHS

    HE SAID NEW MOON TO NEW MOON MEANING NEW MOON SABBATH TO NEW MOON SABBATH AT BEGINING OF EVERY MONTH

    NOTICE HE ALSO SAID SABBATH TO SABBATH MEANING HOLY SABBATH TO ANOTHER HOLY SABBATH MONTH TO MONTH NOT WEEKLY

    SHALAM! HOPE THAT HELPS
     
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    What thing so ever I command you,observe to do it: thou shalt not add thereto, nor diminish from it.- Deuteronomy 12:32

    What days do you celebrate the Sabbath this year? What do you do with the extra days left over at the end of the month?

    Wouldn't Ezra have violated the Sabbath if he left on the first day of the first month? (Ezra 7:9).
     
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    What days do you celebrate the Sabbath this year? Good question

    Sabbath Calendar according to the Lunar cycle

    first look at a Feb 2015 calendar look for the New Moon
    2. The New Moon will start on Feb 18 2015 and New Moon Sabbath
    3. The New moon Sabbath Starts the Beginning of the New month according to the Hebrew calendar
    4. So feb 18 on the solar calendar(Gregorian Julian calendar) would actually be March 1st on the Hebrew lunar calendar
    5. Now count 7 days from Feb 18 - 25
    6. so on Feb 18 2015 is the New Moon Sabbath and Feb 25 2015 7 days later is the HOLLY SABBATH which is according to GOD it is March 8th 2015

    As for Ezra 7-9 He was in NO WAY in violation of the Law

    Remember you can not Buy of sell he did neither hence he was not in violation
     
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    Bro do you have any more info on this. For some reason in the last few days this came to mind that there has been a misunderstanding of the sabbath and I just so happen to Google the topic and I found your post. I would really like to hear more.
     
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