Black Spirituality Religion : Fraud in the Bible? or It Sucks That You Don't Know Hebrew, Greek or Aramaic!

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  1. Pharaoh Jahil

    Pharaoh Jahil Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Fraud in the Bible

    or
    It Sucks That You Don't Know
    Hebrew, Greek or Aramaic







    What is Pious Fraud?

    Pious fraud was a common technique employed by early Christian writers to make a point. Their intention was to convert anyone and everyone by any means available. One of the more persuasive methods was to write a text and falsely tell others that it was written in first person. For example, the four canonized gospel tales were not written by Matthew, Mark, Luke or John. That has been a well known fact for about 200 years. And to this day, no one knows who the gospel stories were written by. These texts are perfect examples of pious fraud. Pious fraud is the foundation of the deception known as Christianity and it continues to this day.

    During the first couple of centuries of the Common Era the early Christian priestcraft, which would eventually become the early Catholic fathers, were in the process of assimilating religions from all over Europe. Ultimately the new religion become known as the Christian religion, or more accurately The Catholic Church. The Bible was put together by hundreds of people who were either at the head of the fraud or were pawns in its assembly. Once the original languages were translated into Latin, it was only a matter of time before the original language nuances could be discarded. Ever wonder why it was punishable by death to read the Bible during the Middle Ages? Punishable by death by the common folk to read it, that is. Well, the reason was that the priestcraft was well aware of the errors, inconsistencies and flat-out lies that riddled the Bible. If the common man found out, it could have been the death of the Church's authority, power and control over the masses. And since the original languages are rarely, if ever, used by those who read the Bible (well, those who actually READ it), the fraud is perpetuated.

    When a pious fraud is knowingly perpetuated in the name of power and money, you have deception. Remember, 1700-2000 years ago, when these texts were being assembled into a 'new testament', the vast majority of humanity was illiterate. Science was not known. Demons rules the world. Anything could be put forth and said to be 'absolute truth' when it was in fact, completely fraudulent.

    What is the implication of this? The implication is self-evident. The story of Genesis, that Christian proselytizers love to advance (altho it is part of the much older Jewist texts), is a complete and utter forgery. In that story we are led to believe that there was a single god who created the earth, etc. in 6 days. Not only has science proven the timeline to be completely false, the religious aspect is a complete fabrication. At the time that the Genesis story was supposed to have been written the Hewbrew people were not monotheistic. That's history. They believed in many gods and Genesis proves it. The story actually goes back to before the Hebrews were a distinct people-it is not Hebrew in origin.

    To read the rest, go here:

    http://www.davidicke.net/religiousfrauds/christianity/piousfraud.html
     
  2. goraddy

    goraddy Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    GOOD POST!!!
     
  3. Pharaoh Jahil

    Pharaoh Jahil Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Here's a little more taste of the article...

    Pious Fraud in Translation

    Let's take a look at the very first words of the book of Genesis. Note very carefully that the Hebrew culture, at the time of this writing, was not monothestic, but rather, polytheistic. Will your priest, minister or preacher tell you that? No. But you can find out for yourself with a simple dictionary.

    The Hebrew word for God is el; the plural is elohim, gods. What is the first sentence in the Bible?

    "In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth" (Gen. 1:1).

    Here is Genesis 1:1 in Hebrew (transliterated into the Latin alphabet, of course):

    "Bere****h bara elohim," etc.,

    "In-beginning created (the) gods (the) heavens and (the) earth."

    In the same chapter the word "elohim" (gods) is used thirty times., Those gods are the ones who created the 'universe' in 6 days.

    To clarify, here is the translation of the Hebrew text of Genesis 1. Notice how Jewish and Christian 'fathers' don't bother to tell you what the original text says. They would like you to believe that a single god created everything. But, they messed up big time and actually translated it properly. In plain English, the translation reads 'let us make man in our image':

    Here are three examples of the Hebrew plural gods mentioned in Genesis: 1. "And-said elohim (gods), let-US-make man (adam) in-image-OUR, after-likeness-OUR" (1:26).

    2. And when "adam" had eaten of the forbidden fruit of the tree of knowledge, "the Lord God" said, "Behold, the-man has become like one of US, to know good and evil" (3:27).

    3. And when the Tower of Babel was being built: "The Lord [Heb. Yahveh] said ... Come, let US go down," etc.

    When speaking of the Hebrew deity, Yahveh, elohim, (gods) is used in the Hebrew texts, The plural elohim is used 2570 times. It is always falsely translated to the singular "God", thus falsely making us believe that this text was written at a time when the Hebrew people were monothestic, when it clearly is the case (written at least 2570 times, no less!) that they WERE NOT.

    In the three Genesis verses above, there are three different designations of the Hebrew deity or deities: elohim, (gods), falsely translated "God":

    Lord God (Heb. Yahveh-elohim); and Lord (Heb. Yahveh). Yahveh is the proper name of the Hebrew God, which, in English, is Jehovah.

    Yahveh-elohim is a Hebrew "construct-form" which is translated to "Yahveh-of-the-gods." Invariably these personal names were falsely translated "Lord" and "Lord God," respectively, for purposes of pious fraud.
     
  4. Sun Ship

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    Gods and elohim

    Peace Brother, Pharaoh Jah

    Over the years, it has been more than obvious to me, that the ancient Hebrews were a polytheistic people and closely related in culture and language to the Canaanites and I am not trying to exclude any other cultural influences or ancient origins. I think the truth about the bible and these people would be too controversial and religiously cataclysmic for the established religious hierarchies, throughout the world..

    It’s amazing how so many well-educated worshippers are beguiled by the superficial pageantry of denominational religion and the empty rhetoric of verbose ministers. The most ardent believer never makes an attempt to study the bible in depth.

    Matter of fact, it’s more than amazing.

    Peace,

    Brother Sun Ship
     
  5. Pharaoh Jahil

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    This is for folks who think they know what the bible is all about but who really don't know anything.

    People who allow themselves to believe there's anything sacred about a book that's been written in ancient, dead languages and adapted (because there's no such thing as "translation") and several more languages before the European rulers who enslaved your ancestors sat down and picked which bastardized, adulterated books would suit their purpose for global dominion and which ones wouldn't.

    People so victimized and fearful that they can't shake the yoke of their oppressors no matter how much they see it not working.

    That's what religion is for - a cage for your mind. Even when the original perpetrators are long dead, your mind and your descendant's minds are still trapped in this cage of their devising.

    Christianity = Western Civilization

    Western Civilization = White Domination

    White Domination = Death To All*


    *Even other whites.


    Well, y'all finally get your "Armageddon". Western Civilization has made this planet unfit for human life and it is now in the process of ending it all for terrestrial life. And as the world runs down, we'll wage desperate wars and nuke up the place and the next race of dominant creature will find our remains and try to find some way to understand them.

    I hope they don't find bibles.
     
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    Ques ; What Does The Word Language Means ?


    Ans ;The '' Language '' In Aramic ( Hebrew ) Is '' Saphah , And In Ashuric / Syriac
    ( Arabic ) It Is '' Lughah '' The Word '' Language '' Which Means '' Tongue '' Speech , Language '' The Spelling ( With '' U '' ) Is DueTo The Influence Of The French Word '' Langue '' , Meaning '' Tongue ; Language '' It Also Comes From The Greek Word '' Dialektos '' Meaning '' Dialect , Language , Tongue '' As Found In The Books Acts 61 , A.D. < Acts 2 ; 6 ;.. Now When This Was Noised Abroad The Multitude Came Together , And WereConfounded Because That EveryMan Heard Them Speak In His Own Language ;
    Ques ; What Does TheWord Tongue Mean ?
    Ans ; The Word '' Tongue '' In Aramic ( Hebrew ) Is '' Lashown '' AndIn Ashuric / Syriac ( Arabic ) It Is '' Lisaan '' Tongue Comes From The Old English Word '' Tunge , Tonge '' Which Means ''Speech '' It Is Also Derived From The Greek Word '' Glossa '' Meaning '' Tongue , Or Impl . A Language '' Refer To Revelation 10 ; 11 ... The Word '' Tongue '' Taken From The '' Hans Wehr Arabic / English Dictionary < Tongue / Language >
    Tongue - Latin - Lingua ;
    1 ) A Fleshy Moveable Process Of The Floor Of The Mouth ...
    2 ) The Flesh Of The Tongue
    3 ) The Power Of Communication Through Utterance
    The Yashua Isa Jesus , Christ Revelation 96 A.D. < Revelation 10 ; 11;... And He Said Unto Me Thou Must Prophesy Again Before Many Peoples , And Nations And Tongues And Kings '' ...................................................................
    It Is A Scientific Fact That Archeologists Have Found Tablets Dated Thousands Of Years Before Your Actual Adam A Name Merely Meaning Of The '' Dark Brownish Red Ground '' And Eve < Hawwah > Which Means '' Life Or Living '' The Earliest Known Documents In Cuneiform Were Recorded In Sumerian . The Language Of The Inhabitants Of Southern Mesopotamia And Chaidea . These Document Were Tablets Known As . The Atra - Hasis , The Enuma Elish , And The Gilgamesh Epics Tablets Of The Descent Of Ishtar To The Underworld , Tablets Of Nergal And Arishkegal Tablets Of Adapa . Tablets Of Etana , The Akkadian Tablets And Many More Cuneiform Was Used As A Script As Well As A Spoken Language By The Eloheem , And Later From This Language Came The Languages .Cuneiform ;
    Aramic ( Hebrew ) Ashuric / Syriac ( Arabic ) . The Enuma Elish '' Means '' When On High '' The Enuma Elish , Which Is The Babylonian Story Of Creation , Is Named After The First Two Words Of The Narrative Of The Babylonian Book , ''Enuchus '' These Tablets Were Recorded Way Before Aramic / Phoenician / Hebrew Or Ashuric / Syriac ( Arabic ) Even Existed . The Ashuric Language Spelled Asshur Stemmed From Asshur , A Son Of Shem Who Was The Son Of Noah , Just Like Aram ( Genesis 10 ; 21 - 23 )
    Genesis 10 ; 21 - 23 ;... Sons were also born to Shem, whose older brother was Japheth; Shem was the ancestor of all the sons of Eber. 22 The sons of Shem:
    Elam, Asshur, Arphaxad, Lud and Aram. 23 The sons of Aram;...
    Aramic / Phoenician ( Hebrew ) <> Genesis 10 ; 22 ;...The sons of Shem: Elam, Asshur, Arphaxad, Lud and Aram .
    Asshuric / Syriac ( Arabic ) <> Genesis 10 ; 22 ;..The sons of Shem: Elam, Asshur, Arphaxad, Lud and Aram ;... < Asshur Son Of Shem And Faatin > < Aram Son Of Shem And Faatin > Aramic Comes From A Man Named Aram The 5Th Son Of Shem As Mentioned In Genesis 10 ; 22 . Aramic ( Hebrew ) Was The Language Of The Aramaeans , The Descendant Of Aram .
    Ancestral Lineage Of Aram
    Aram Son Of Genesis 10 ; 22 ;... The sons of Shem: Elam, Asshur, Arphaxad, Lud and Aram.
    Shem Son Of Genesis 5 ; 22 ;... After Noah was 500 years old, he became the father of Shem, Ham and Japheth.
    Noah Son Of Genesis 5 ; 22 ;... After Noah was 500 years old, he became the father of Shem, Ham and Japheth.
    Lamech Son Of Genesis 5 ; 28 - 29 ;...When Lamech had lived 182 years, he had a son. 29 He named him Noah and said, "He will comfort us in the labor and painful toil of our hands caused by the ground the LORD has cursed.
    Methusael Son Of Genesis 5 ; 25 ;...When Methuselah had lived 187 years, he became the father of Lamech.
    Emoch Son Of Genesis 5 ; 21 ;...When Enoch had lived 65 years, he became the father of Methuselah ;.
    Jared Son Of Genesis 5 ; 18 ;...When Jared had lived 162 years, he became the father of Enoch
    Mahalaleel Son Of Genesis 5 ; 15 ;...When Mahalalel had lived 65 years, he became the father of Jared.
    Kenan Son Of Genesis 5 ; 12 ;...When Kenan had lived 70 years, he became the father of Mahalalel
    Enosh Son Of Genesis 5 ;9 ;...When Enosh had lived 90 years, he became the father of Kenan.
    Seth Son Of Genesis 5; 6 ;...When Seth had lived 105 years, he became the father of Enosh.
    Adam Son Of Genesis 5 ; 3 ;... When Adam had lived 130 years, he had a son in his own likeness, in his own image; and he named him Seth
    The County Aram Settled In Was Then Called Aram '' Number 23 ; 7 ;.ThenBalaam uttered his oracle: "Balak brought me from Aram,
    The Fact The Language Was Named After Aram Himself , Proves That He Was A Leader , A Chief , Or A Mighty Man In His Tribe . When A Dialect Evolved . It Usally Was Named After The Most Powerful , Or OutStanding Member Of The Tribe , Or Clan ; In This It Was Aram . The Name Of The County Of Aram Appears In The Hebrew Scripture Psalm 60 ; 1 ;... Hear my cry, O God; listen to my prayer .
    As Aramnaharaim Meaning '' Aram Of The Two Rivers'' It Was Called This Because It Was Located Between The Tigris ( Idiglat ) And Euphrates ( Firattu )
    And Euphrates ( Firattu ) Rivers . WhereThe Atumiy ( Watusies ) Lived Aram Was Also Called Padan , Or Paddan - Aram Genesis 28 ; 2 ;..Go at once to Paddan Aram, to the house of your mother's father Bethuel. Take a wife for yourself there, from among the daughters of Laban, your mother's brother.
    Meaning '' The Plain ( Flatlands ) Of Aram In Genesis 25 ; 20 ;...and Isaac was forty years old when he married Rebekah daughter of Bethuel the Aramean from Paddan Aram and sister of Laban the Aramean. .... And Comes From The Word Paddan Which Means '' A Plateau '' In The Aramic ( Hebrew ) . It Appears In The Feminine Form As Padana Which Means '' A Plateau '' . All Of The Syrians Are Arameans , Meaning '' The People Are Called Aramaeans '' And They Are Also The Assyrian Nation . But Speaking A Different Dialect . Don't Confuse The Aramaeans, Or Syrians Of The Past With The People Who Reside In These Areas Called Iraq And Syria Today , The Aramic ( Hebrew ) Language Evolved Into Different Dialect And Is Labeled As Ancient . Offical Middle , Late Eastem And Modern Aramic ( Hebrew ) . However , Ashuric / Syriac ( Arabic ) Was A Late Dialect Of Aramic ( Hebrew ) Written In Number Of Flowing Scripts .
    You Might Ask Is Aramic ( Hebrew ) And Ashuric / Syriac ( Arabic ) The Same Language ? What Is Called The Aramic ( Hebrew ) Tongue Is Translated As The Ashuric / Syriac ( Arabic ) Tongue , And Because These Language Were The Most Ancient And They Sounded Similar , They Were Somtimes Thought To Be The Same Language . You Can See That The Language Aramic ( Hebrew ) And Ashuric / Syriac ( Arabic ) Came From Accardian Also Spelled Akkadian , One Of The Language Of Sumer Was Also A Form Of Cuneiform In The Aramic ( Hebrew )Accad In The Ashuric / Syriac ( Arabic ) Accadi Comes From Genesis 10 ; 10 ;....The first centers of his kingdom were Babylon, Erech, Akkad and Calneh, in Shinar
    The Accadian ( Akkadian ) Language , Written In Cuneiform Was A Semitic Tongue Related To Hebrew , Arabic , And Aramic The Oldest Accadian ( Akkadian ) Cuneiform Inscriptions Date From The Old Accadian Or Early Accadian Period During The Inscription Of The Great Ruler Sargon ( 2334 - 2279 B.C.E. ) ...
    Isaiah 20 ; 11 ;....
    Of Accad . The Excerpts From The Bible Were Extracted From These Tablets Which Help To Prove That The Bible Wasn't Divinely Sent By Some All Poweful Loving Deity Who Lives Up In Heaven .Also The Torah Couldn't Originally Have Been Recorded In Ashuric / Syriac ( Arabic ) Or Aramic ( Hebrew ) If The First Time The Language Were Mentioned Were In Genesis 10 ; 22 ;...
    The Gilgamesh Epic Pre - Date The Bible The Gilgamesh Epic . Is Considered One Of The Greatest Stories Of The Accadiah Language . Gilgamesh , Is Said To Be The Fifth King Of URUK ( Around 2600 B,C.E. ) A City In Mesopotamia In Genesis 10 ; 10 ;....
    As ERECH ( URUK ) The Tablets Themselves Are Not Named . Just The Story On The Tablets EPIC Means '' Stories Or Fables '' Theologians Call These Writeings '' The Gilgamesh Epics '' Which Is Really The Muniyr Tablets Or Tablets Of Light , Also Know As The illumination Tablets , Because It Focuses On A King Whose Name Was GILGAMESH ( IZ DUBAR ) . The Name GILGAMESH Is From Cuneiform Or Chaldean . The Great Ruler Of The Two Rivers Tigris ( Idgiat ) And Euphrates
    ( Furattau ) Who Was 2/3 Eloheem And1/3 Human , They Also Give More Accurate Accounts Of These Events Concerning The Creation , Thus , The Story On The Tablets Of Gilgamesh , Parallels With The Story Of NOAH And The Flood NOAH'S Real Name Was UTNAFISHTIM And He Was Also Called ZIU SUDRA And KUMARBI . In Aramic ( Hebrew ) The Name NO - AKH Means '' To Rest Down Upon Genesis 8; 4 ;...
    Describing What The Ark Itself Did , And If You Read It In The Original Language . It Tells You That It Not Only Floated . But It Also Flew , Or Lifted Up Off Of The Water . The Word Is NAW - SAW '' To Lift , Bear Up. Lift Up '' When It Landed , And Not The Person NOAH , But A Craft So How Could That Be His Name Before This Yahuwa Genesis 7 ; 9 ;.....
    Called Him At The Age Of 600 In Genesis 7; 6 ;...
    To Build A Tay - Baw '' Ark Or Craft , Or A Vessel '' In Genesis 6;14 ;...
    Another Epic Wrtten In CUNEIFORM SCRIPT Is Called , The ENUMA ELISH Which Is The Babylonian Creation Epic , The Story Has Similarities To The Biblical Story Of Creation .


    :geek:
     
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    In those passages GOD is speaking to HIS Sons. In Job GOD acknowledges HIS Sons as existing before man.

    Job:38:7: When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?


    In this section of Job GOD is referring to the time of creation, when HE was creating our environment. Specifically Job:38:7 is referring to the creation of stars, as you can see the Sons of GOD are acknowledged by GOD as witnessing this creation, but they had nothing to do with creation, they only witnessed it.

    Have you ever been playing arts and craft with your son or daughter and you say lets draw something or write a story? And you realize that it is you doing the arts and craft or writing the story and your son or daughter just observes and marvels. This is the situation as to, “let us….”. GOD is the only living entity capable of creation from nothing. The Bible as it is originally translated in the KJV has themes within it that carry out through out the Book. They are not just a collection of stories. Each story is linked and the themes are methodically thought out. It is more then just a reading; it is a study. But it reveals things people are not interested in knowing, thus it is snuffed at, discouraged and rejected.
     
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    I don't know Hebrew(some in my family know a little), but I don't think that'll hinder someone from seeing the truth in the scriptures if they put their faith in the Father and the Son.

    Yes, there have been changes made, but nothing that can't be fully understand if one doesn't cease their searching. Seek out the Father day and night, hold trust in His Son forever, and He'll give to you the understanding you need, and hold you in His salvation, always.

    He did come as a sacrifice for us, and was resurrected from the dead, confirming that all which is promised to the faithful shall be given freely and joyfully because we don't doubt in faith and belief. To the unbelieving, this may seem like a thing which wouldn't help, but faith goes far, and takes us even further.
     
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