Black People : Fear of Immigrants

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  1. Amnat77

    Amnat77 Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Peter Beinart Peter Beinart – Mon May 3, 7:25 am ET

    NEW YORK – The right’s anxiety about African-Americans has been replaced by anxiety about immigrants. Peter Beinart on how Arizona’s new law has ignited the civil-rights struggle for a new century.

    Why are large chunks of the American right so freaked out by illegal immigrants? Because they are no longer so freaked out by African-Americans.

    And in this regard, the politics of 2010 are more like 1910 than 1970.

    Over the last century, American politics has tended to see-saw between panics about immigrants and panics about blacks. A hundred years ago, immigration was the more volatile issue. Anti-black racism was brutal and profound, of course, but African-Americans were a familiar group that constituted a stable share of the population. They were also disenfranchised, and therefore less politically threatening. Immigrants from Southern and Eastern Europe, by contrast, were pouring onto America’s shores. And they were becoming politically active: joining labor unions, taking over city governments, influencing presidential elections.

    Today’s closest equivalents to George Wallace and Strom Thurmond are J.D. Hayworth and Tom Tancredo.

    Among many native-born whites, the result was hysteria. Finally, after four decades of this massive Catholic and Jewish immigration, the GOP—the dominant party in the native-born north—pushed through laws closing America’s door. Many Republicans also grew obsessed with prohibition, an issue that had everything to do with the hostility of teetotaling old-stock Protestants to alcohol-drinking immigrant Catholics. The Democrats, for their part, grew so divided between nativists and newcomers that in 1924 they took more than 100 ballots to select a presidential nominee. In 1928, the party nominated a Catholic, New York Governor Al Smith, who got crushed.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/dailybeast/20100503/ts_dailybeast/7880_thenewamericanbigotr
     
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    mexicans steal black jobs.

    immigrants as a group depress wages.
     
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    Globalization depresses wages. Xenophobia depresses sperm count.
     
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    jamesfrmphilly going above and beyond PREMIUM MEMBER

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    say wha?????

    :10500: sounds like a personal problem to me
     
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    lol
     
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    wow. You've got to be trolling
     
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    I just hope that folks dont focus so much on "mexicans" and lose sight of some events and the timing of this legislation.

    I stated a few days ago that the defense agencies are weighing the fact that the Taliban most likely would gain leverage, or will gain leverage when the us admits the ineffectiveness of its drone attacks since the main leader they targeted is still alive.

    Notice the increase in instances within the us borders of alledged terrorist attacks, or bombing attacks. They have increased since the strike on al-Somali.

    http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2009_12/021424.php

    Keep in mind this one is still alive, as reported today.

    http://www.turkishweekly.net/news/5...-and-britain-but-won-t-use-nuclear-bombs.html

    Dont think that when folks talk about 'illegals' that this does not include Muslims, especially BLACK MUSLIMS because the homeland security folks aremore concerned with 'home grown' folks and those who are 'illegals' with a political agenda, more so than migrant workers seeking to earn living wages.
     
  8. Kamau47

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    I do not fear illegal immigrants, but let me tell you how they are here.
    In my city, blacks make up about 88% of the population (pop. around 10,000 total). The place where I work is owned by a group in Spain. Yet, out of 70 employees, there are only 14 blacks (8 whites also), and the rest are mexican. Do I need to comment on their legal status? When they come to apply for a job, they come 5 or more ( I can see the office from where I work in the plant). They don't speak any, or very little english, which makes it almost impossible to communicate with them (the supervisor is from Spain, and he speaks 3 languages, including spanish). And if any of them get the slightest hint of any government agency coming, they call in sick in droves.
    The other thing is, they don't live in the city; they have all but taken over the mobile home parks around the city in the township. 3 or 4 families to a mobile home is not uncommon. They are also heavy in the construction, landscaping and manual labor section. You very seldom see them working in stores, banks, mall or anyplace that is "visual".
    I will be honest now, and from my opinion. They have stolen jobs right from out under blacks. The whites who own & control the job market have found a cheap alternative to us, and have exploited it. They look right over blacks, though we are the ones who live here and spend our money here.
    I am sorry, but if I commit a crime, I am held accountable, no matter what my reason. I have no sympathy for mexicans who cross the border illegally, then get all type of help & protection. If they want to come here, do it the right way.
     
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    i'm just sayin........

    :bowdown:
     
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    Who has this anxiety?

    If it is the whites, they are talking out of both ends of their body with the hole in it.
    I don't think they have any problem with the white immigrants, just the black and brown ones. The white immigrants come over here and are just as racist as their white brethren. Don't let them get money and get rich, then it's all about 'how come those American darkies can't use American opportunities like I do and become rich? Oh, they must be lazy.' The immigrant browns and blacks do it too, but their element is about class not so much about racism. Compound class and racism, that is worse.

    But on the other hand, they love this new latino immigrant population. The news, the media, and everyone caters to them. It's like they are saying 'FINALLY! WE DON'T HAVE TO CATER TO THE BLACKS ANYMORE AND THAT SPECIAL INTEREST GROUP! WE HAVE A NEW GROUP, THE LATINOS!'

    They are constantly throwing up in our faces how that population is outpacing the population of blacks, how they are family oriented, how they better (or just about the same) in education, and how they are spending more money than black people. Every place you look or call, they have the spanish language option. If that's scaring the white folks, it's scaring me a little too - I don't want to all the sudden be FORGOTTEN just because we have this new large(r?) group of people.

    I know it's a divide and conquor tactic to put browns and blacks against each other - by all the sudden placing them above black people. But still..... it exist to be done.

    And I'm thinking...'hold up, wait a minute. Latino isn't a RACE. Some of them are dark! Some of them are black! Some of them look just like me! How are you going to lump this entire group together based on one commonality - language - and say they are outpacing my group and doing things better than me? They are not...... monolithic.'

    I'on get it.
    But then I do.
    I just don't like it.
     
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