Black People : F.Y.I.

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  1. jamesfrmphilly

    jamesfrmphilly going above and beyond PREMIUM MEMBER

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    Did you know....?

    1. 80% of all votes in America are counted by only two companies:
    Diebold and ES&S.
    http://www.onlinejournal.com/evoting/042804Landes/042804landes.htl
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diebold
    http://www.essvote.com/HTML/about/about.html

    2. There is no federal agency with regulatory authority or oversight
    of the U.S. voting machine industry.
    http://www.commondreams.org/views02/0916-04.htm
    http://www.onlinejournal.com/evoting/042804Landes/042804landes.html

    3. The vice-president of Diebold and the president of ES&S are
    brothers.
    http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/private_company.html
    http://www.onlinejournal.com/evoting/042804Landes/042804landes.html

    4. The chairman and CEO of Diebold is a major Bush campaign
    organizer and donor who wrote in 2003 that he was "committed to helping Ohio deliver its electoral votes to the president next year."
    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/07/28/sunday/main632436.shtml
    http://www.wishtv.com/Global/story.asp?S=1647886

    5. Republican Senator Chuck Hagel used to be chairman of ES&S. He
    became Senator in a surprise upset, with votes counted by ES&S machines.
    http://www.motherjones.com/commentary/columns/2004/03/03_200.html
    http://www.onlinejournal.com/evoting/031004Fitrakis/031004fitrakis.html

    6. Republican Senator Chuck Hagel, long-connected with the Bush
    family,was recently caught lying about his ownership of ES&S by the Senate Ethics Committee.
    http://www.blackboxvoting.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=26
    http://www.hillnews.com/news/012903/hagel.aspx
    http://www.onlisareinsradar.com/archives/000896.php

    7. Senator Chuck Hagel was on a short list of George W. Bush's
    vice-presidential candidates.
    http://www.businessweek.com/2000/00_28/b3689130.htm
    http://theindependent.com/stories/052700/new_hagel27.html

    8. Kenneth Blackwell (a black man) co-chaired George Bush's Ohio election
    campaign.
    As Ohio secretary of state, he left no stone unturned to suppress the democratic vote.
    http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/113004Y.shtml#1
    http://www.freepress.org/departments/display/19/2004/894
    http://67.15.90.110/article.pl?sid=04/10/29/1414219

    9. Diebold's new touch screen voting machines have no paper trail of
    any votes. In other words, there is no way to verify that the data
    coming out of the machine is the same as what was legitimately put in by voters.
    http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0225-05.htm
    http://www.itworld.com/Tech/2987/041020evotestates/pfindex.html

    10. Diebold also makes ATMs, checkout scanners, and ticket machines,
    all of which log each transaction and can generate a paper trail.
    http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0225-05.htm
    http://www.diebold.com/solutions/default.htm

    11. Exit polls are usually excellent predictors of election results.
    Reputable analyses could not find an explanation of the discrepancy
    Between exit polls and results of the 2004 presidential election.
    http://ucdata.berkeley.edu/
    http://www.buzzflash.com/alerts/04/11/Unexplained_exit_poll_discrep_v00l.pdf
    http://www.nytimes.com/2004/11/23/i...ne.html?ex=1102245800&ei=1&en=3a3c24b7e64fe49

    12. A Diebold subsidiary employed 5 convicted felons as senior
    managers and developers. These people helped write the central compiler computer code that counted 50% of the votes in 30 states.
    http://www.wired.com/news/evote/0,2645,61640,00.html
    http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2004/10/301469.shtml

    13. Jeff Dean, senior programmer on Diebold's central compiler code,
    was convicted of 23 counts of felony theft in the first degree.
    http://www.chuckherrin.com/HackthevoteFAQ.htm#how
    [urlhttp://www.blackboxvoting.org/bbv_chapter-8.pdf[/url]

    14. Jeff Dean was served jail time for planting back doors in his
    client's accounting software and using a "high degree of sophistication" to evade detection over a period of 2 years.
    http://www.chuckherrin.com/HackthevoteFAQ.htm#how
    http://www.blackboxvoting.org/bbv_chapter-8.pdf

    15. None of the international election observers were allowed in the
    polls in Ohio.
    http://www.globalexchange.org/update/press/2638.html
    http://www.enquirer.com/editions/2004/10/26/loc_elexoh.html

    16. California banned the use of Diebold machines because the
    security was so bad. Despite Diebold's claims that the audit logs could not be hacked,a chimpanzee was able to do it! (See the movie here with the chimphttp://blackboxvoting.org/baxter/baxterVPR.mov
    http://wired.com/news/evote/0,2645,63298,00.html
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4874190

    17. All -- not some -- but all the voting machine errors detected
    and reported in Florida went in favor of Bush or Republican candidates.
    http://www.wired.com/news/evote/0,2645,65757,00.html
    http://www.yuricareport.com/ElectionAftermath04/ThreeResearchStudiesBushIsOut.htm
    http://www.rise4news.net/extravotes.html
    http://www.ilcaonline.org/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=950
    {url]http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/HL0411/S00227.htm[/url]

    18. Serious voting anomalies in Florida -- again always favoring
    Bush --have been mathematically demonstrated and experts are recommending further investigation.
    http://www.yuricareport.com/ElectionAftermath04/ThreeResearchStudiesBushIsOut.htm
    http://www.computerworld.com/govern... ____________________________________________
     
  2. river

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    Suppose they find conclusive evidence that Bush fixed the election. What then? Will they impeach him? Will the Supreme Court step in again to save him? Will the war end?
     
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    RunawaySlave Banned MEMBER

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    Jamesfromphilly I also read this on another forum. it was either www.afrochat.net or www.****************

    River the evidence is crystal clear, but remember the supreme court selected him last time and now, the supreme court is leaning more towards fascism, now more than ever before, so there in no relief coming from the supreme court. :time:
     
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    The irony is Bush's supporters would have us think he is fighting for democracy.Think about it, what does anyone but the autocrat himself gain from fascism unless he is just a puppet--a front man for those who are really in power?
     
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    So true my brother, so true! :bazooka:
     
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    yes i read about diebold last year. the sad part is the media doesnt even question this info. :help:
     
  7. river

    river Watch Her Flow MEMBER

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    You mean you still believe in a free press???????
     
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    RunawaySlave Banned MEMBER

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    River remember that "vote or die" crap after reading this do you think the promoters of that crap knew? :poop: Oh yea I believe in a free press. they are free to press what ever they like be it truth or lies, actually the western media news agencies are nothing more than macro commericials for multinational corps. like IBM, Halburton, Rand etc. :bullseye:
     
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    That's the Golden Rule--He who has the gold makes the rules. Thia ian't new or something somebody just came up with fifty years ago. The same media that lies to us today told us that negroes were only three fifths human two hundred years ago.
     
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    James

    Thanks for posting, and bringing forward the links.


    None of this surprises me.
    If any of you want to learn the nations pulse. This same info was talked about when we had our elections here in Cali. Arnold won the election here, passed and had all his success on the same system.

    Listen to the nightly archives at

    http://www.kgoam810.com/listingsEntry.asp?ID=263588&PT=Archives

    www.kgo.com Monday thru Fridays

    Folks call in from all over the world, who listen on te internet. With the news happening all around the United States. The 1AM to 5AM news is the hottest.

    I knew and heard talk about these very things. Many in congress and the media knew. Months before the election. That Diebold promised Bush he would win. That they would guarantee him that.

    Nothing will be done, and we all know it was fixed. The bible thumpers hate blacks so much, they cut off their own nose to spite their face. They too will be eaten by the DUBYA beast.

    They promised the machines would be fixed, the right way, and have paper trails by 2006. In time for another Congressional election. RIGHT!

    One thing this has solidified. The elections have really become a real catch 22.

    Dammed if you do vote. Because they can rig the machine. Dammed if you don’t. Because the opposition will win if you stay at home. They don’t want you to vote. Life and control gets easier for them.