Black People : Extreme Xenophobia in the Dominican Republican

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  1. RAPTOR

    RAPTOR Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Talk to me bientempo. What is their to dislike about the xenophobe clip?
     
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    They really need to expand on some of their statements. So much BS. They did not even mention except in passing that Haiti invaded the Dominican Republic and ruled over it for 22 years. And 5 times after that, and were defeated each time.

    We are talking about Haiti the nation of NGO's with over 10,000 registered who have yet to rebuild anything of significance.

    They also need to read the Dominican Constitution! There was nothing changed put explained what means in transit. Meaning if you are not a citizen or legal resident then your intransit
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    If you came from Haiti or anywhere else in 1929 or later and never bothered to become a legal resident, then the sin's of the father/mother are being visited on the sons/daughters.

    As 70% of the Haitian population has no ID issued by their own country, they can not legally immigrate anywhere. Haiti is a stateless factory as the majority of their population cannot even prove they are Haitian. Why should any other country allow them to immigrate.

    How come nothing has been said about the expulsion of Haitians from Brazil, Bahamas, etc. Their methods are much harsher then what the Dominican Republic is trying to do.

    They also mentioned the Cocolos who came from the west indies. This was not the same situation as the Cane cutters from Haiti, as they immigrated and gained residency.

    The Cane cutters from Haiti were a contract between Haiti and Dominican Governments. That has now been resolved and they and their descendants have received their residency due to the plan in place.

    Remember both countries by their Consitution's are Jus sanguinis (Latin: right of blood) is a principle of nationality law by which citizenship is not determined by place of birth but by having one or both parents who are citizens of the state. This also applies to most of Europe an Asia.

    While the US and most of Latin America is Jus soli, the principle that the country of citizenship of a child is determined by its country of birth
     
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    http://www.nytimes.com/1981/01/23/world/bahamas-once-a-haven-is-land-of-fear-for-haitians.html


    http://america.aljazeera.com/watch/...smeetingwithhaitiamiddeportationcontrove.html
    Others have cautioned critics to analyze both sides, stressing that illegal migration of Haitians into the Dominican Republic has drastically impacted the country's economy. Some accuse CARICOM nations and the United States of hypocrisy and point out their treatment of Haitian immigrants within their own countries.

    Why is Haiti who is a member of Caricom the only Caricom country that is required to have a visa to enter another Caricom County?

    2010 https://barbadosfreepress.wordpress...alth-care-system-says-bajan-foreign-minister/
     
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    My Struggles as a Black American in the Dominican Republic




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    A group of women in Santo Domingo, Dominican Republic. Photo Courtesy of El Marto, April 8, 2008


    When I lived in the Dominican Republic, there was a point when the jeers from the streets, shouts of “Arréglate ese pelo!” (Fix that hair!) and mocking gestures about my prominent pajón (afro) became too much to deal with. In a country of complex racial dynamics, where straightened hair is a social currency and billboards depict curly-haired women with the headline “Your hair deserves better,” natural or curly hair, colloquially referred to as pelo malo (bad hair—also a term used in the black American community), is sometimes viewed as a marker of Haitian identity. While many Dominicans vehemently deny the role of race in the current controversy over the deportation of Dominicans of Haitian descent and Haitian migrants, the treatment I received while living in the Dominican Republic (and often being mistaken as Haitian) suggests the contrary ...


    http://americasquarterly.org/content/my-struggles-black-american-dominican-republic


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    Seems like the spanish colony known as the dr is still bitter about being conquored by Haiti.
     
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    Protest at the Haitian Embassy by the Caneros. Seems they want their money back from their government that they paid for services never received. They have been given their residency without the paperwork that they paid the Haitian government for an never received.
    You can hit on the Dominican Republic all you want, but we have done more for Haitians than their own Government.

    http://www.listindiario.com/la-repu...la-embajada-de-hait-les-devuelva-ms-de-rd4-mm
     
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    little bit. but we fixed that in 1844. and Haiti has been on a downhill slide ever since.
     
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    Seem like you know history well, so we ought not lie to our selves, what has become of Haiti has nothing to do with the Haitians, but the effects of outside forces that are determined to see Haiti fail.
     
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