Black Spirituality Religion : Existence Of God

2. Do You Believe That Evolution Is True?

If so, then provide an answer to the following questions. "Evolution" in this
context is the idea that natural, undirected processes are sufficient to account for the existence of all natural things.

1. Something from nothing?

The "Big Bang", the most widely accepted theory of the beginning of the universe, states that everything developed from a small dense cloud of
subatomic particles and radiation which exploded, forming hydrogen (and some helium) gas. Where did this energy/matter come from? How reasonable is it to assume it came into being from nothing? And even if it did come into being, what would cause it to explode? We know from common experience that explosions are destructive and lead to disorder. How reasonable is it to assume that a "big bang" explosion produced the opposite effect - increasing "information", order and the formation of useful structures, such as stars and planets, and eventually people?


This is why this question can never be answered by either side,creationists or evolutionists. It's a case of the "chicken or the egg". Even those that believe as I do in the Annunaki is faced with the same basic question:"if they created us,who created them". Our mind can't except the fact that something can just materialize out of nothing. I call this question "the PI question",because it's never ending.

2. Physical laws an accident?

We know the universe is governed by several fundamental physical laws, such as electromagnetic forces, gravity, conservation of mass and energy, etc. The activities of our universe depend upon these principles just like a computer program depends upon the existence of computer hardware with an instruction set. How reasonable is it to say that these great controlling principles developed by accident?

I do believe in causality,if not,the only other thing is predetermination.

3. Order from disorder?

The Second Law of Thermodynamics may be the most verified law of science. It states that systems become more disordered over time, unless energy is supplied and directed to create order. Evolutionists say that the opposite has taken place - that order increased over time, without any directed energy. How can this be?

ASIDE: Evolutionists commonly object that the Second Law applies to closed, or isolated systems, and that the Earth is certainly not a closed system (it gets lots of raw energy from the Sun, for example). However, all systems, whether open or closed, tend to deteriorate. For example, living organisms are open systems but they all decay and die. Also, the universe in total is a closed system. To say that the chaos of the big bang has transformed itself into the human brain with its 120 trillion connections is a clear violation of the Second Law.

We should also point out that the availability of raw energy to a system is a necessary but far from sufficient condition for a local decrease in entropy to occur. Certainly, the application of a blow torch to bicycle parts will not result in a bicycle being assembled - only the careful application of directed energy will, such as from the hands of a person following a plan. The presence of energy from the Sun does NOT solve the evolutionist's problem of how increasing order could occur on the Earth, contrary to the Second Law.

Yes you are correct and Theists often reference the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics as "proof" that "God" does in fact exist. The premise being, because the 2nd law deems order from chaos an impossibility, the only way life on Earth could have come about is by the will of a higher power(God). This contention would be compelling if the theist understanding of the 2nd law were correct. You've stated the problem with the point of view in you comment,and that is they fail to account for variables outside of an open system. This is why scientists often apply the 2nd law to a "closed system". This isn't to say entropy only increases in a closed system. All matter is subject to the 2nd law. But the entropy increase of energy observed in a closed system is known to be unaffected by entropy outside of the system. This is not the case in a real world application.

My apologies,but I have to stop here but I will continue tomorrow.

Peace!
 
بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم

... Existence Of God ...


1. Chance Or Intelligence ?

2. Do You Believe That Evolution Is True?

3. Is There A Creator ?

4. Is there A God?




1. Chance Or Intelligence ?

1. Chance (possibility) and Intelligence or rather intent and logic, or rather male and female elements

2. Life is a projection of the possibility of concrete people, places, things and ideas. In essence the beginning would be the end, meaning that instead of looking at the picture in linear terms, the whole picture would suggest a projection of decline to single cell organisms. I know that creation works in opposition to reflection. Evolution is a valid theory, however, the application of such a theory depends on the "viewer".

3. Yes

4. Yes.... the word god is formed as a symbol to express what is meant and felt, nameless, ageless, raceless and faceless, but will not remain in this State forever.

This is the concept of the car for example. The "dead" elements from the idea or the inception of what a car is to the actual existence of it, provide you with the answer to life from life... a car comes from life because it took the inspiration and the builders to form it...

GOD would need a "vehicle" to become a concrete, manifested being.

If we want to "see" GOD our intent has to be "in line" or "line up" with GOD's intentions

and not the intent to wait until the planets line up to envoke "artificial power and intelligence'

It's as simple as that.

If you really look at "nature" how could one come to the "realization" that it is consistent?
 
The Quran on the Origin of the Universe


The science of modern cosmology, observational and theoretical, clearly indicates that, at one point in time, the whole universe was nothing but a cloud of ‘smoke’ (i.e. an opaque highly dense and hot gaseous composition).1 This is one of the undisputed principles of standard modern cosmology. Scientists now can observe new stars forming out of the remnants of that ‘smoke’ (see figures 10 and 11).


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Figure 10: A new star forming out of a cloud of gas and dust (nebula), which is one of the remnants of the ‘smoke’ that was the origin of the whole universe. (The Space Atlas, Heather and Henbest, p. 50.)




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Figure 11: The Lagoon nebula is a cloud of gas and dust, about 60 light years in diameter. It is excited by the ultraviolet radiation of the hot stars that have recently formed within its bulk. (Horizons, Exploring the Universe, Seeds, plate 9, from Association of Universities for Research in Astronomy, Inc.) (Click on the image to enlarge it.)

The illuminating stars we see at night were, just as was the whole universe, in that ‘smoke’ material. God has said in the Quran:
Then He turned to the heaven when it was smoke... (Quran, 41:11)
Because the earth and the heavens above (the sun, the moon, stars, planets, galaxies, etc.) have been formed from this same ‘smoke,’ we conclude that the earth and the heavens were one connected entity. Then out of this homogeneous ‘smoke,’ they formed and separated from each other. God has said in the Quran:
Have not those who disbelieved known that the heavens and the earth were one connected entity, then We separated them?... (Quran, 21:30)
Dr. Alfred Kroner is one of the world’s renowned geologists. He is Professor of Geology and the Chairman of the Department of Geology at the Institute of Geosciences, Johannes Gutenberg University, Mainz, Germany. He said: “Thinking where Muhammad came from . . . I think it is almost impossible that he could have known about things like the common origin of the universe, because scientists have only found out within the last few years, with very complicated and advanced technological methods, that this is the case. Also he said: “Somebody who did not know something about nuclear physics fourteen hundred years ago could not, I think, be in a position to find out from his own mind, for instance, that the earth and the heavens had the same origin.
 

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