Black History Culture : EXACTLY WHOSE HI-STORY ARE WE IMITATING ??

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  1. blkbutterfly41

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    FOR THE MOST PART WE CAN'T RECOGNIZE WHAT IS INDEED OUR HISTORY AND WHAT IS SPECIFIC TO EUROPEAN HISTORY.

    Ex; BEHAVIOR PATTERNS , TRICKERY, ILL TREATMENT OF ONE ANOTHER, HOW WE DEFINE MARRIAGE, RELIGION ETC.

    So lets see what we can or will recognize what is "there's" and what are our's.

    Your welcome to add. Peace



    The Dark Ages is a term referring to the perceived period of cultural and economic decline and disruption that took place in Western Europe following the decline of the Roman Empire.[1][2] The label employs traditional light-versus-darkness imagery to contrast the "darkness" of the period with earlier and later periods of "light". Originally, the term characterized the bulk of the Middle Ages as a period of intellectual darkness between the extinguishing of the light of Rome, and the Renaissance or rebirth from the 14th century onwards.[3] This definition is still found in popular usage,[1][2][4] but increased recognition of the accomplishments of the Middle Ages since the 19th century has led to the label being restricted in application. Today it is frequently applied only to the earlier part of the era, the Early Middle Ages. However, modern scholars who study the era tend to avoid the term altogether for its negative connotations, finding it misleading and inaccurate for any part of the Middle Ages.[5][6]

    The concept of a Dark Age originated with the Italian scholar Petrarch (Francesco Petrarca) in the 1330s, and was originally intended as a sweeping criticism of the character of Late Latin literature.[3][7] Petrarch regarded the centuries since the fall of Rome as "dark" compared to the light of classical antiquity. Later historians expanded the term to refer to the transitional period between Roman times and the High Middle Ages, including not only the lack of Latin literature, but also a lack of contemporary written history, general demographic decline, limited building activity and material cultural achievements in general. Popular culture has further expanded on the term as a vehicle to depict the Middle Ages as a time of backwardness, extending its pejorative use and expanding its scope.[8]

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Ages

     
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    Why would the dark ages be significant to us ??

    1- They killed anybody that dared to think out the box.
    2- They had no respect for science or technology.
    3- They used christianity as a tool to gain power and control. And to justfiy war, murder and senseless killing.
    4- They had no respect for nature
    5- They burned books AFTER they took what they can use and manipulated history.
    6- The is the birth of destructive behaviors patterns which was considered to be the norm.
    7- They had no respect for human life and this was against their own.

    Did we not adopt there ways and cultural practices as it relates to "The dark ages " ???


     
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    From the begining of time , There was war. That we know. But what are the origins of "race " wars ?? When did skin color become the primary factor in war ??

    The First Great Race War: Atilla the Hun ??

    Or Was the first race war written out of history and Why ??

    I came across this article.


    Professor Henry Reynolds has spent most of his life researching the early history of black-white relations in this country.

    His work led to the landmark Mabo High Court decision with far-reaching ramifications for indigenous land rights in Australia.

    Professor Reynolds's books have often struck a raw nerve, particularly his claim that Australia was not settled peacefully by whites but only after some 20,000 Aborigines and more than 2,000 whites were killed in a war across the continent, or, a series of wars.

    In his latest semi-autobiographical work, he says the question he is most frequently asked by Australians is "Why didn't we know? Why weren't we told?"

    I spoke with Henry Reynolds earlier today.

    But first, an excerpt from his book.

    HENRY REYNOLDS, HISTORIAN: In an article entitled "Naming the *******", published in the 'Townsville Herald' on 2 February 1907, an old pioneer using the nom de plume 'H7H', boasted of his part in a punitive expedition.

    "It was estimated that over 150 miles bit the dust that morning, and unfortunately, many women and children shared the same fate.

    In that wild yelling rushing mob, it was hard to avoid shooting the women and babies and there were men in that mob of whites who would ruthlessly destroy anything possessing a black hide.

    It may appear cold-blooded murder to some to wipe out a whole camp for killing perhaps a couple of bullocks, but then each member of the tribe must be held equally guilty and therefore it would be impossible to discriminate."

    KERRY O'BRIEN: Henry, that account comes from north Queensland, was that something exceptional to north Queensland, or did your research show it was part of a pattern around Australia?


    http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/stories/s28233.htm


    You may ask why is this relevant ?? Let me explain.

    War has always been around. But the barbaric side of war was never our way. We will throughly examine how we fought. Killing an enemy was not the norm. But the last resort. We will farther learn about the difference between servatude and slavery. As I post the information. You can make the determination yourself.


    Whose history are we actually owning and imitating ?? Ours or theres ??

    Please feel free to voice your opinion. Peace

     
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    Sure we do

    But I have come to the point to understand that just as that behavior back then created that history, our behavior towrds each other here creates a history as well.
    With all of the great inspirers, educators, organizers anmd scholars we had from reconstruction till today, and the imperative for the future of the common good of the race to reject the habits listed here;

    folks at this point will express what they have in their hearts, regardless.

    If some folks want to work towards unity in earnest, then they will,
    and if others simply have selfish intentions and wish to keep folks "Eyes off the Prize"
    through slander, hatred, animosity,
    then they will do what their hearts tell them to do, plain and simple.

    There is an old African saying;
    There can be no enemy outside,
    if there is no enemy inside
     
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    blkbutterfly41 Banned MEMBER

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    I had to ponder on your comment bro.


    History is very telling if you know it. Knowledge of history allows us to take THAT and build on to it.

    We are very diverse now. However what seems to be missing is the common goal which should allow us to value our differnces and stay focus on that goal.

    So it shouldn;t matter iof you are Muslim, christian, hindu etc. The core values are the same. IF WE CAN STAY FOCUS ON THAT PRIZE WHICH BENEFITS THE MASSES AND PROMISES OF A BETTER FUTURE LONG AFTER I AND YOU ARE GONE.

    So in short, if we can stay focus long enough to deeply love ourselves and others then we can love ourselves enough to rebuild and ensure our grand children have a better future.


    People see what they want to see and too many don't have a raised conciousness to go beyond. So that's why I figured if we can recognize our way , our culture, our history, our selves and tap onto our gifts and value that and appreciate that. Then we have more choices.

    Thanks sincerely

    peace


     
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    Please do understand

    That there are haters and supporters in every culture and relgion, and as you have seen, just the mention of the Nguzo Saba, gets folks filled with rage or on a Karenga bashing trip.
    We need to be honest we will drive the bus over the Black communty and the hell it is catching, rather then try to save it, for the sake of keeping our petty animosities, and interpersonal hatreds.

    Tiger Woods is more important then fighting regentrification, and what dress Mo Nique wore at her award is more importnat then dialoguing a national Black children's education organization to save our youth from a careless system.
     
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