Black People : Ever Experienced Discrimination on the Job ?

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Have you experienced race discrimination on the job?

  1. Yes, experienced discrimination, won complaint

    36.4%
  2. Yes, experienced discrimination, lost complaint

    18.2%
  3. Yes, experienced discrimination, didn't complain

    36.4%
  4. No, never experienced discrimination on the job

    9.1%
  1. Destee

    Destee destee.com STAFF

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    Peace and Blessings Family,

    We were having another discussion, and this topic, discrimination on the job, came up. I shared my own story, and it didn't take long before another Sister said she had experienced a like situation. Filing complaints, going to the EEOC, and ultimately quitting or being fired, after fighting to be able to provide for our Families.

    I believe they keep us isolated, discouraged from sharing information, because it would be strength to us, to know that others have experienced the same. If we talk, we'll be able to share what works, what doesn't, and perhaps able to experience more successes in this arena ... the fight for equal and proper treatment on our jobs.

    So ... i'm taking the cover off. Let's talk about it. Let's get some numbers together.

    You know, there are very few of us that file complaints, that receive monetary compensation, promotions, etc., that make us whole. Every now and again, we'll hear a story about how someone won a large settlement, but i think that's just to keep us fighting. Like mice on a treadmill, we'll keep going, even though they know they'll never let us win. They have to have a few wins against them, otherwise, it looks way bad for them. So they give us those "cost of racism wins," while the rest of us remain in the fight or flight mode, with no hope of success.

    I'm including a poll in this thread, because i want to see how many of us have experienced this, just from the small number here.

    So please ... vote in the poll above, and include your comments and experiences below.

    This discussion and poll is about race discrimination.

    Thanks in advance.

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    Destee
     
  2. oldiesman

    oldiesman Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    ever experienced discrimination...

    not quite,but years ago when i was young,single and didn't give a fruit,i had this little job and the old white lady i was working for came very close to calling me the[n]word,of course when i dropped my right hand into a fist in plain view she had a change of heart which was smart on her part..saved her a trip to intensive care and me a trip to prison,of course today i would just sue the pants off em but back then it was hit first ask questions later.
     
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    Yes, I have experienced it. And it was pretty intense with constant harassment. I was called in one time because of how some fake flowers were positioned on my desk, if you can believe it. But the thing was, although the source was a racist manager, it all came down through my black supervisor. I think this is their new tactic. A brother on another forum stated that he had received a promotion only to later find out they wanted him to fire some black employees.

    I actually went to the EEOC twice. The first time they didn't find on my behalf. The investigation prompted the racist to promote me though. I went back again after I was fired and got the same song and dance. I believe you are right about them dangling a carrot in front of us, in terms of getting us to keep embarking on fruitless endeavors.

    They always say to "report" discrimination. But if you do, they will really ride your axx until you are fired or you quit. Its all an illusion. The EEOC is a sham to keep us running around in circles. To he!! with trying to change them. Let's create our own businesses and use our talents to enrich each other instead of whitey.
     
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    FaithSoulSistah Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    This sister miscarried .....

    http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/spotlight/news-article.aspx?storyid=95136

    A Whites-Only Bathroom on the First Coast?
    BRUNSWICK, GA -- First Coast News has been investigating allegations that a major local company is guilty of racial discrimination.

    Lisa Woods contacted us almost a year ago. She worked at Georgia-Pacific near Brunswick at the scaling house where truckers come to weigh their logs.

    She says for months the restroom had a sign saying, "OUT OF ORDER." She alleges her co-worker, Anthony Lee, believed the races shouldn't mix. Lee had no comment.

    An independent trucker, Donald Jones, says when he went to the scaling house he saw the same "OUT OF ORDER" sign.

    Jones says, "I had to go off in the woods and do what I had to do."

    But Lisa Wagner, a former security guard at the scaling house, says if a white truck driver came through, "No problem, no problem at all." Whites were invited to use the toilet, Wagner says.

    Was the toilet really broken? First Coast News Jeannie Blaylock went to the scale house with a photographer to find out. She flushed the toilet and it seemed to be working just fine.

    Several hours after our news crew stopped at the job site, Georgia-Pacific fired Woods.

    Woods is suing Georgia-Pacific for racial and sexual discrimination.

    She also alleges Lee put up a cartoon at the job site showing a pregnant monkey. Woods was pregnant at the time but later miscarried.

    That miscarriage, verified by medical records from Southeast Georgia Health Systems, is also part of Woods' complaints. She says the company would not let her off from work, even though medical experts recommended she "rest at home for the next several days."

    Wagner says, "She worked all day. I seen truckers in and out..in and out...and her by herself working when she had a miscarriage the night before."

    Woods alleges she sent numerous communications to the area human resource manager for Georgia-Pacific, but nothing changed.

    Attorneys for Geogia-Pacific did not return our calls. But a company spokesperson sent us an email saying, "Georgia-Pacific had a legitimate basis for Ms. Wood's termination and we dispute all of her allegations. We will vigorously defend our position."
     
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    FaithSoulSistah Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    "I believe they keep us isolated, discouraged from sharing information, because it would be strength to us, to know that others have experienced the same. If we talk, we'll be able to share what works, what doesn't, and perhaps able to experience more successes in this arena ... the fight for equal and proper treatment on our jobs."

    Clearly, playing by their rules isn't producing change and that's by design. So what to do? When this society shows us what we already know (it is racist and a part of the global system of racism) we have to develop better ways of dealing with the "proof" however it manifests itself. Shock, disbelief and anger should not be our first reaction. I have found that racists LOVE to get a rise out of us. It is when they cannot do so that they really get upset. Then they get off-balance and you can possibly use that to your advantage. Better to have the enemy not thinking straight than for you to be in the position of not thinking straight where they can use that against you. For example, if we "go-off" on them, immediately they have a reason to fire you, write you up or whatever they choose to do. When they cannot manipulate us so easily, it is to our advantage.

     
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    Brother Clyde ... i saw your suggestion for the Sister to go to the EEOC, but i have never had any success with them, have you?

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    Yes I have Sister Destee,

    I've won several EEOC and Arbitration cases, as well as represented many others, successfully; most with full back pay, also.
     
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    I find it strange about "riding your axx until you are fired." Here is the problem...you were not aware of the Purview: Retaliation. Retaliation is the easiest case to file and win in the EEOC complaint procedure. In fact, to the knowledgeable complainant, management fears this purview and will often settle quickly, has been my documented experience. The purview of retaliation was established so that management would not harass someone for filing a complaint.

     
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    Racist Bar

    I was employed at a V.F.W. (Veterans of Foreign Wars) club as a Bartender. The first V.F.W. I worked at had mostly active members and there wasn't a problem with me being there since mostly everyone there was of different races and backgrounds. After that I got hired to work at another V.F.W., this was a totally different atmosphere. I was hired on before seeing the members or before the members could see me.
    Everyone there was retired military, and white. Most had served in Vietnam and a couple WWII...
    When they found out that I was black they immediately complained about how they did not want me working there. But my boss who had hired me got me to stay. I was surprised he wanted me there, when even his wife disagreed with his decision.
    They made racist jokes all the time. Called me colored and lord knows what else when I wasn't there.
    To add to that the men would say dirty jokes to me and talk about my body.
    I could had quit, but I chose not to let them run me out of there and give them the satisfaction of me losing my job.
    So I stayed. And turned the tables on them. I told them every racist joke I could about white people, and started to call these old people N***s...
    One of them told me not to use that word, so I told them straight up don't you use the word.
    After that they never did say any more racist jokes, at least not while I was around.
    They even started to invite me over to their houses for dinner and what not.
    But in the end I put my two weeks notice in. They didn't want me to leave and asked me why I was going. I told them "To get my education and get a better job then this two cent (cause that's how much my tips were) job serving ya'll drunks!" Which I did!

    Last year I had another job, where they were firing black women left and right to hire "pretty" Caucasian women. I had been there every day at that job. They told me how I was doing such a good job and what not. The head boss was a flirt. He'd hit on all the white and hispanic women, one day he tried to hit on me and was following me around and when I didn't pay him no mind his attitude changed real quick. They hired another white girl to work with me, which was the head boss' son's room mate. She was drinking on the job. All up in the bathroom getting drunk. She messed up the order me and her were working on. I know it wasn't me, because I was paying attention to what I was doing. Anyways, they fired me, but kept her. The next day someone from my job called me and told me they hired the boss lady's daughter. I was the last black female there.

     
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    I have had this problem several times. But the incidence that had the largest effect on me was when I was 20 years old- just a kid. It was 1983 and the economy was really bad. My friend got me a job at his dad's work doing under ground construction out in the desert east of San Diego. It was the largest underground company in the u.s. and they were laying the cable t.v. all over the country. My friend told me not to tell the boss I was Puerto Rican because he hated PR's. He was a redneck ex marine drill sargent from Arkansas who had done two tours in Vietnam. Of course, he asked me my ethnicity and I told him PR. So that was after like the first week or two working there. He then after that started to try to get me to quit. He would separate me from the crew and leave me alone with a 90 pound jack hammer on stretches of solid stone that the ditch digging machine couldn't cut through. He would come by once or twice and let me have some water. There were men from all over the country working there, desperate men. I was desperate. My mother had suffered kidney failure and I was trying to save the house. So quiting was not an option. We would sleep outdoors at a campground so we could save our per diem. We didn't even have tents. We would go home on weekends. Sometimes I would suffer delirium from the heat and hard work. After about six months, the redneck said we were finishing up and would be going to Vegas soon, but one of us had to go up there first for like a month. Of course that was me. I accepted to his surprise. So I took the greyhound to Vegas and was assigned to a crew. The jerk had another plan to get me to quit. He put me on an all black crew. The brothers were somewhat baffled, but once they found out I was PR they were like, "Oh a latin brother." Then they understood why the brown dude was put on the black crew. Our job was to go ahead of the $250,000 ditch digging machine and make sure there was no electric lines where the machine would be digging. In Vegas there are no light or telephone poles, it's all underground. So we were supposed to dig down 28 inches with our jackhammers to make sure there weren't no high voltage cables: they didn't want to melt the expensive machine; better to let a black man or a PR in this case fry. But we weren't stupid, we would only dig down like 12- 18 inches (well, I guess were were still a little stupid). We had a lot of fun on that crew, laughing in the face of death. So when about a month later, the redneck came with the rest of the guys from Cali, he couldn't believe his eyes. About six months later, that redneck apologized to me and told me I was the toughest SOB he had ever met.
    So this is my story. Although it was quite harsh as far as discrimination goes, it was a coming of age. I wouldn't trade it for anything. And i will always remember those brothers who took me under their wing and always made sure I didn't get fried. Those black men, from all over the country, desperate to feed their families, taught me so much about being a man. They will always be a part of me.
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