Black People : Entering a New Year Without a Collective Vision, Plan or Agenda

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  1. Ankhur

    Ankhur Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Some say Black folks will be all right, we have seen rough times before and we will see rough times again!
    "Aw me and my wife and 4 kids lived in a refrigerator crate, fro 2 years and ate grass from the park and drank and bathed in rain water, and did just fine and blah blah blah and yada yada yada...."

    Uhh... No!

    Like Marvin Gaye sang;" This aint living!"



    It is no conspiracy theory to predict that the Black community nationally , will face a 2 pronged assualt.
    Basic cuts from Washington, state and city govs; regardless of party;
    1 Public housing
    2 Civil service jobs
    3 Social security
    4 Medicaid
    5 Medicare
    6 Public schools
    7 Libraries
    8 Municipal Universities
    9 Municipal Hospitals
    10 Day Care for working mothers
    11 Long term home care for the elderly
    12 Job Training

    And a declining economy, based on Wall street paper pushing, and an outsourced manufacturing base,
    supported and puffed up with war dollars and new wars.

    The statisitics in every aspect of life for people of African show a steady and rapid decline in both quality and quantity.

    Without any leadership or unified organizations to seriously address these matters, some plan or strategy is need to avoid much harm and hardship
     
  2. Ankhur

    Ankhur Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Also we are looking at our ancestral continent under a 2 pronged attack as well;
    Recolonization;militarily and genocide and debt slavery; chemically and economically
     
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    Stress should be placed on acquiring private property, not public housing.
    Public housing is government housing. The housing belongs to government. The occupants have mere privilege of use and possession.

    Public housing is a herding pen for political undesirables within a given polity.

    A job is (voluntary) servitude. How about stressing private enterprise?

    These three are benefits proffered by government. These are franchises, thus they fail to qualify as property.
    They are not owned and cannot be owned.

    Why would one want to be brainwashed?

    These are controlled by the city hence government yet again.

    Couldn't private enterprise or even family for that matter do a better job of this provision instead of government?

    Shouldn't this be a family obligation?

    This can be done privately as well.
    I could give you an education on computers privately that no university could match.

    Its not that I'm against organizing.
    My primary concerns would be how is it paid, who is paying, and cui bono?
    The money and resources have to come from somewhere.
    Also, is participation voluntary or compulsory?
     
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    Ankhur Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Thank you now what do you have to say to the 20 million Black people who will be cut off of those services, and what you have planned for their immediate needs?
     
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    Prepare for a radical change in lifestyle.
    You'll need to drop the non-essentials and focus on the essentials.
    Now is as good a time as any as to what is and is not private property.
    No use holding on to or crying about what wasn't yours from the get go.

    Reality is about to set in.

    Would not solutions need to be individual, group, commercial, and political?
     
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    So after you tell 20 million Black folks the above listed, what do you think their response to you will be?
     
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    You read it wrong.
    Prepare for reality. That means one needs to act. One needs to change.
    If government cuts or eliminates these services, what is one to do? Just sit there and cry in their beer?

    Those who want to keep their heads in the sand will react negatively.
    Those with an open mind and open ear may get the gist of what I'm saying.

    I've said this before concerning taxes. Taxes belong to government. That is their revenue, their property! After you've paid your taxes, how its spent is their prerogative. This is custom. This is history. This is law.

    If you are dissatisfied with how government is spending money, then one has to become politically involved and I am not just talking voting.

    Attend local community meetings of the trustees of the county or municipality. Grab a CAFR of your local governments. Do some research on the history and development of taxation. Find out how you can legally reduce your taxable income or taxes payed. Read some court cases concerning those benefits proffered by government. ACT!!

    I've posted threads concerning Social Security and its nature.
    How you perceive Social Security and other government benefits is not how they perceive it.
    And I have to tell you, your opinion won't count in their forums.

    That which can be given, can be taken away.
    He who accepts the benefit, suffers its burden.
     
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    Aight partner, no more tangents, I'll play your game, I will delete the remark about taxes:rolleyes:
     
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