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Lady Gaga Urges Fans to Support Electoral College Petition

Days after protesting Donald Trump's stunning election win, Lady Gaga is encouraging her fans and supporters of Hillary Clinton to sign a petition that could prevent Trump from becoming the nation's next president ...

https://gma.yahoo.com/lady-gaga-urg...petition-164204863--abc-news-celebrities.html

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Lady Gaga Urges Fans to Support Electoral College Petition (ABC News)

 
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Dukakis calls for end to Electoral College

... “Hillary won this election, and when the votes are all counted, by what will likely be more than a million votes. So how come she isn’t going to the White House in January? Because of an anachronistic Electoral College system which should have been abolished 150 years ago,” he wrote Sunday in an email to POLITICO ...

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/michael-dukakis-electoral-college-231298

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Former Democratic presidential nominee Michael Dukakis, who lost to George H.W. Bush in 1988, re-upped his call to abolish the Electoral College after Hillary Clinton’s loss to Donald Trump on Tuesday POLITICO. | AP Photo

 
Without a doubt, the other side would have done the same. Recall what Trump kept saying, the system is "Rigged" unless he wins, his folk were prepared to riot if Hillary had won. I say again, the US is on the brink of another civil war.

The electoral college just needs to do what it was first commissioned to do, prevent demagogues or some despot from entering the White House ... We'll see if the petition has any impact on December 19th.

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looking at my post above about why the electoral college was formed does not provide reasons for your statement.

There were a couple of reasons why this method was finally selected to be included in the US Constitution:

  1. 1. To give extremely small states some say in the election. There was a fear that the larger population in some states would give them inordinate power when selecting the president.
  2. 2. To place a check on the 'uneducated' masses. At the time of the Constitutional Convention, many voters could not read and did not have access to accurate information. The framers of the Constitution felt that a check was needed.
the above statements do not back your reasoning. Especially article 1. And with the current state of your Media, item 2 comes into play.
Yes people around the world are watching your election and the aftermath. The USA prides itself on peaceful turnover of power. Cannot find any reference of where the college has completely flipped as the petition is asking for.

If the insurrection of the electoral college should result in a tie the following would come into play. At that point Trump would probably still win the election.
If no candidate receives a majority of Electoral votes, the House of Representatives elects the President from the 3 Presidential candidates who received the most Electoral votes. Each state delegation has one vote.

Myself really doubt that the other side would riot as the cities have done. You have examples of states wanting to split due to rural areas believing that they have no representation within their own states, examples are California and Colorado. This is shown on the map you provided where 2 cities in Colorado and 3 in California carry the state.
 
looking at my post above about why the electoral college was formed does not provide reasons for your statement.

There were a couple of reasons why this method was finally selected to be included in the US Constitution:

  1. 1. To give extremely small states some say in the election. There was a fear that the larger population in some states would give them inordinate power when selecting the president.
  2. 2. To place a check on the 'uneducated' masses. At the time of the Constitutional Convention, many voters could not read and did not have access to accurate information. The framers of the Constitution felt that a check was needed.
the above statements do not back your reasoning. Especially article 1. And with the current state of your Media, item 2 comes into play.
Yes people around the world are watching your election and the aftermath. The USA prides itself on peaceful turnover of power. Cannot find any reference of where the college has completely flipped as the petition is asking for.

If the insurrection of the electoral college should result in a tie the following would come into play. At that point Trump would probably still win the election.
If no candidate receives a majority of Electoral votes, the House of Representatives elects the President from the 3 Presidential candidates who received the most Electoral votes. Each state delegation has one vote.

Myself really doubt that the other side would riot as the cities have done. You have examples of states wanting to split due to rural areas believing that they have no representation within their own states, examples are California and Colorado. This is shown on the map you provided where 2 cities in Colorado and 3 in California carry the state.


Let's examine further the information you submitted, paying close and particular attention to this:

2. To place a check on the 'uneducated' masses. At the time of the Constitutional Convention, many voters could not read and did not have access to accurate information. The framers of the Constitution felt that a check was needed.

"looking at my post above about why the electoral college was formed does not provide reasons for your statement ..."

The reasoning behind my statement comes from the reasoning of the chief designer/framer of the electoral college system, Alexander Hamilton. Hamilton was assisted by John Jay and James Madison, their positions are found in the Federalist Papers, specifically, No. 68. ... So, its the big 3, not the committee of eleven that drove the creation of the Electoral College.

And not only that, the very support of your #2 above, below ...

2. To place a check on the 'uneducated' masses.

... is based primarily on the below position of Hamilton, and explains why electors could flip, as you say, and determine that Trump doesn't qualify or is uniquely unqualified to become President of the United
States:


Federalist No. 68 is the continuation of Hamilton's analysis of the presidency, in this case concerned with the mode of selecting the United States President. He argues for our modern conception of the Electoral College, though in the case of a tie, the power would be given to the House of Representatives to vote on the election of the president ... This is reflected in his later fears about the types of people who could potentially become president. He worries that corrupted individuals could, particularly those who are either more directly associated with a foreign state, or individuals who do not have the capacity to run the country. The former is covered by Article II, Section 1, v of the United States Constitution, while the latter is covered by Hamilton in Federalist 68, where he notes that the person who will become president will have to be a person who possesses the faculties necessary to be a president, stating that,

"Talents for low intrigue, and the little arts of popularity, may alone suffice to elevate a man to the first honors in a single State; but it will require other talents, and a different kind of merit, to establish him in the esteem and confidence of the whole Union, or of so considerable a portion of it as would be necessary to make him a successful candidate for the distinguished office of President of the United States"

Hamilton, while discussing the safeguards, is not concerned with the possibility of an unfit individual becoming president, instead he says,

It will not be too strong to say, that there will be a constant probability of seeing the station filled by characters pre-eminent for ability and virtue.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federalist_No._68

When you say this, it gives me pause:

"Myself really doubt that the other side would riot as the cities have done."

The other side, Trumpism, is largely provoking the protesters through documented hate crimes. The Alt-right, KKK and White Nationalists are strong supporters of Trump and are not completely innocent in all of this, as you would have us think.

The protesters are afraid and have good reason to be.

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