Black Spirituality Religion : Elder Sekhemu - Yoruba African Folktale

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  1. Alexandra

    Alexandra Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Brother Metasaience posted a wonderful youtube clip in which Denzel Washington tells the story of Ananse the spider and shortly thereafter I picked up a boook on African Folktales, which has proven to be an engaging and thought-provoking read. There is one folktale in particular whose hidden meaning I am unsure about and was wondering if you would be kind enough to enlighten me.

    A hunter had three dogs named 'Cut to Pieces', 'Swallow up' and 'Clear the remains' and a magic flute by which he could call them up wherever he was. He went hunting, leaving his dogs tied up in the compount, but telling his wife to release them if they became agitated.

    Everyday, a huge monster with her body covered with mouths stole all the meat he had killed the previous day. Finally, he waited in his camp to confront her but she did not come. He tied up his loads and left, shouting an insult at her. She came with an angry roar, and he fled, climbing to the top of a great tree and calling his dogs by name with his flute.

    The monster began to eat the base of the tree with her many great mouths, but the hunter sprinkled magic powder on the tree and it became whole again. This continued until the powder was finished and the tree was nearly cut through. Suddenly, the three dogs arrived, having broken their ropes and living up to their names, they devoured the monster completely.

    The monster's sister appeared to the hunter as a beautiful woman who offered to become his second wife, and he took her home. That night, she resumed the form of a monster and tried to kill the hunter and his first wife but was torn to pieces by the three dogs

    Taken from African Folktales in the New World by BASCOM, William

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    Greetings Alexandria

    Thank you for reaching out to me to solicit my insights.

    Its a little difficult to tell if this is a Pataki("myth") or an Odu.

    Unfortunately I'm at work and time does not permit me to give a comprehensive explanation of the aforementioned story.

    However the theme of the story centers around 3 central entities; Ogun, an aspect of Oshun and Egun.

    I'll be sure to return this afternoon.

    Peace and light
     
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    Alexandra Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Thank you Elder Sekhemu for this, just the names of the three Orishas is enough to allow me to form a conclusion, but if you do have time later on, a more detailed explanation will be most appreciated.

    Peace and light to you too.

    A
     
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    Sorry for getting back to you so late beloved. Incidentally I just finished making an offering to Ogun.

    That being said, I'm going to present a few clues, maybe you can fill in a few blanks :em0100:

    One thing you should be aware of if Ogun represents force or energy and all that comes with it. Additionally, Ogun's first wife was Oya (divinity of the winds of change)

    The hunter is definately Ogun. In Odu Ogunda Meji it says that the dog is Ogun's favorite animal, particuliarly black dogs. As you probably know, dogs are one of the most loyal and trusted animals on earth.

    Ogun lives in the forest and has a thorough working knowlege of all Omeiro (healing plants and herbs)

    I mentioned in another thread that it was Ogun who provided the means, and iron chain (tree?) for the Irunmole to descend from Orun (heaven) to (Earthr) Aiye, and back up again.

    It is also who Ogun, the first Orisa to taste blood (hint) before any ebo can be performed, enables all the other Orisa to indulge in said rituals.

    The beautiful woman is Oshun, however the form that she resumed is probably another aspect of Oshun in Odu Osa Meji is known as Iyami Aje (0ur mother who eats) and is able to bring tranquilty and peace to man as well as the ability to remove it.

    I'm gonna stop right here for the time being
     
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    Thank you Elder Sekhemu for taking the time to explain this. I do find it interesting that he was not able to kill her himself, is there a hidden meaning behind this?

    Peace,
    A
     
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    This sounds like the Yoruba fable Oro Iroko (The Tree demon). Fables (in Yoruba culture) serve to perform some moral functions; although, morality need not be the story's primary focus, whearas myths and Legends contain stories of the sacred/divine and serve as main historic records of the Yoruba people.

    In the version I heard as a child, the antagonist was the farmer's son.....
     
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    Brother Sekhemu.

    Respectfully; the verb, in Yoruba means to eat, however AJE literally translates in english to Witch....in the Yoruba culture AJE is the ultimate feminine power personified, AJE literal translation/meaning in English is very limiting...

    IYAMI AJE (My mother of the ultimate feminine energy/power)
     
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    Alaafia sistah

    I wouldn't neccesarily say he wasn't able to kill her himself, it seems it was a question of the roles the various "characters" were assigned to fulfill.
     
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    Thanks for the tip

    Here's a thread I created some time ago related to the very same topic

    http://destee.com/forums/showthread.php?t=53379
     
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    It is impossible to convey the true meaning of the word AJE in English, same as the word ASE, English is a very limiting language.


    IYA=MOTHER
    MI, EMI=MY, ME singular
    JE=TO EAT
    AJE=FEMININE DIVINE POWER
    emi je=i eat
    ewo je=you eat..


    OUR MOTHER EATS
    WA IYA JE= IYA WA JE
    WA= US, OUR, plural

    IYA MI AJE
    MOTHER MY FEMININE DIVINE POWER
     
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