Black Spirituality Religion : El Katub Shil El Mawut ( The Book Of The Dead ) Coming Forth By Day

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    In The Blessed And Holy Name Of The Great Neter Usir , Son Of Geb And Nut , Children Of The Majest Amun Ra

    Scroll One
    Introduction Hymn To The Sun ~ Neter Ra Worship Of Father Ra , As The Sun Of Righteousness , When He Appears To Rise In The Eastern Horizon Of The Ilu '' The Sky Above '' By Ani , The Scribe
    ( 19 x 2 = 38 )

    1 , He Says ; Greeting To You Father Ra Having Come As Khefera ( Khefri ) ''Arising One '' ( An Incarnation Of Father Ra ) , Even Khefera ( Khefri ) ''Arising One '' ( An Incarnation Of Father Ra ) Who Is The Creator Of The Neteru .
    2 . Father Ra , You Rise And Shine On The Back Of Your Mother Ilu , '' The Sky Above '' Having Appeared In Glory As Master Of The Neteru .
    3 . Your Mother Nut Shall Use Her Arms On Your Behalf In Making Greeting .
    4 . The Manu - Moutain Receives You In Peace ,
    5 . Mother Maat Embraces You All Seasons . May You Give Power And Might In Vindication -
    6 . And A Coming Forth As A Living Ba ( Soul ) To See Horakthy '' Horys Of The Horizon ''
    7 . -- To Ka ( Spirit Self , Etheric Double ) A Coming Forth As A Living Ba ( Soul ) To See Horakhty '' Horus Of The Horizon '' - To The Ka ( Spirit Self , Etheric Double ) Of Ani , The Scribe .
    8 . He Says ; O All You Neteru Of The Ba ( Soul ) Mansion .
    9 . Who Judge Ilu , '' The Sky Above '' , And The Planet Ta ( Earth ) In The Balance , Who Give Food And Provisions ;
    10 . O Father Tatenen ( Ptah ) Unique One Creator Of Human Beings .
    11 . O Southern , Northern , Western , And Eastern Enneads ( Nine Neteru ; Amun Ra , Shu , Tenfnut , Geb , Nut , Usir , Aset , Nebty , Nebthet ) ,
    12 . Give Praise To Father Ra Master Of The Ilu '' The Sky Above '' ,
    13 . The Sovereign Who Made The Neteru .
    14 . Worship Him In His Goodly Shape When He Appears In The Dark - Bark .
    15 . May Those Who Are Above Worship You , Father Ra ,
    16 , May Those Who Are Below Worship You , Father Ra ;
    17 . May Father Tehuti ( Thoth ) And Mother Maat Write To You Daily ;
    18 . Your Serpent - Foe . Reptilians , Have Been Given Over To The Fire And Rebel - Serpent - Foe , Reptilians , Are Fallen ,
    19 , His Arms Are Bound , Father Ra Has Taken Away His Movements .
    20 . And The Children Of Impotence Are Non - Existen .
    21 . The Mansion Of The Prince Is In Festival .
    22 . The Noise Of The Shouting Is In The Great Place , The Neteru Are In Joy ,
    23 . When They See Father Ra In His Appearing As The Sun , His Rays Flooding The Lands .
    24 . The Majesty Of This Noble Neter Proceeds , He Has Entered .
    25 . The Land Is Bright At His Daily Birth , And He Has Attained His State Of Yesterday .
    26 . May You Be Gracious To Me When I See Your Beauty .

    Ra Hatakhte '' Ra Of The Horizon
    Mother Aset ( Isis ) '' Netert Of The Moon
    Father Amun Ra '' Original Father Of All Neteru

    27 . Having Departed From Upon The Planet Ta ( Earth )
    28 . May I Smite The *** , May I Drive Off The Rebel - Serpent Reptilian .
    29 . May I Destroy Nak ( Nakhas , Apophis ) , The Serpent - Demon , Reptilian When He Acts .
    30 . For I Have Seen Abdju - Fish ( Dagon ) In Its Moment Of Being And The Inet - Fish ( Symbolizing Fertility And Rebirth Piloting The Canoe On Its Waterway .
    31 . I Have Seen Father Har ( Horus ) As Helmsman , With Father Tehuti ( Thoth ) And Mother Maat Beside Him ,
    32 . I Have Taken Hold Of The Shadow Hour - Bark And The Stern - Warp Of The Daylight - Bark .
    33 . May He Grant That I See The Sun - Disk And Behold The Mood Unceasingly Every Daylight ;
    34 . May My Ba ( Soul ) Go Forth To Travel To Every Place Which It Desires ,
    35 . May There Be Give To Me Loaves In The Presence Like The Followers Of Father Har ( Horus ) .
    36 . May There Be Given To Me Loaves In The Presence Like The Followers Of Father Har ( Horus ) ,
    37 . May A Place Be Made For Me In The Solar Bark On The Daylight When The Neter's Ferries Across .
    38 . And May I Be Received Into The Presence Of Father Usir ( Osiris ) In The Land Of Vindiction . For The Ka ( Self ) Of Ani , The Scribe .
     
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    Scroll Two

    In The Blessed And Holy Name Of The Great Neter Usir , Son Of Geb And Nut . Children Of The Majestic Amun Ra

    I Introductory Hymn To Father Usir ( Osiris )
    ( 19 x 2 = 38 )

    Father ( Har ) Horus '' Netert Of The Sun

    1 . Worship Of Father Usir Wennefer ( Osiris ) .
    2 . The Great Neteru Who Dwells In The Thinite Nome ( Religious Center Of Upper Al Kham And Also The Capital ) ,
    3 . Master Of Eternity , Master Of Everlasting .
    4 . Who Passes Millions Of Years In His Lifetime .
    5 . First - Born Son Of Mother Nut .
    6 . Begotten Of Father Geb , Heir .
    7 . Master Of The Wereet - Crown ( White Crown Of Upper Al Kham ) .
    8 . Whose White Crown Is Tall , Sovreign Of Neteru And Human Being .
    9 . He Has Taken The Crook And The Flail ( Whip - Like Object , Part Of Royal Insignia ) And The Office Of His Forefathers .
    10 . May Your Hear Which Is In The Desert Land Be Glad .
    11 . For Your Son , Father Har ( Horus ) Is Firm On Your Throne .
    12 . While You Have Appeared As Master Of Fer - Usir '' House Of Osiris '' , ( Busiris , City In The Central Delta Sacred To Usir ) .
    13 . As The Master Who Is In Fer - Usir '' House Of Osiris '' ( Busiris , City In The Central Delta Sacred To Usir ) .
    14 . The Two Lands Flourish In Vindiction .
    15 . Because Of You , Father Usir In The Presence Of The Master Of All .
    16 . All That Exist Is Ushered In To Him In His Name Of '' Face To Whom Mortals Are Ushered ;
    17 . The Lands Are Marshalled For Him As Leader In This His Name Of Sokar ( Falcon - Headed Neter Of The Dead ) .
    18 . His Might Is Far - Reaching ,
    19 . One Greatly Fear In This Name Of Usir ( Osiris ) .
    20 . He ( Osiris ) Passes Over The Length Of Eternity In His Name Of Wennefer .
    21 . Greeting To You , Master Of Kings .
    22 . Master Of Masters , Ruler Of Rulers .
    23 . Who Took Possession Of The Two Lands Even In The Womb Of Mother Nut ;
    24 . He Rules The Plains Of The Silent Land .
    25 . Even He The Golden Body .
    26 . Blue Of Head , On Whose Arms Is Turquoise .
    27 . O Pillar Of Myriads , Broad Of Breast , Kindly Of Countenance .
    28 . Who Is In The Sacred Land ;
    29 . May You Grant Power In The Ilu '' The Sky Above '' .
    30 . Might On The Planet Ta ( Earth ) , And Vindication In The Neter's Domain .
    31 . A Journeying Downstream To Fer - Usir '' House Of Osiris '' ( Busiris City In The Central Delta Sacred To Usir ) As A Living Ba ( Soul ) .
    32 . And A Journeying Upstream To Abtu ( Abydos - Ancient Town In Upper Al Kham Sacred To Usir ) As A Heron .
    33 . To Go In And Out Without Hindrance At All The Gates Of The Duat ( Abode Of The Deceased )
    34 . May There Be Given To Me Bread From The House Of Cool Water .
    35 . And A Tables Of Offerings From Anu ( Heliopolis ) .
    36 . My Toes Being Firm - Planted In The Field Of Reeds .
    37 . May The Barley And Emmer .
    38 . Which Are In It Belong To Ka ( Self ) Of Usir Ani . The Scribe .
     
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    In The Blessed And Holy Name Of The Great Neter Usir , Son Of Geb And Nut . Children Of The Majestic Amun Ra .

    Thirty B ~ Chapter For Not Letting Ani , The Scribe's Heart Create Opposition Against Him In The Neter's Domain
    ( 19 x 4 = 76 )

    1 . O May Heart Which I Had From My Mother !
    2 . O My Heart Which I Had From My Mother !
    3 . O My Heart Of My Different Ages !
    4 . Not Stand Up As A Witness Against Me .
    5 . Do Not Be Opposed To Me In The Tribunal .
    6 . Do Not Be Hostile To Me In The Presence Of The Keeper Of Balance .
    7 . For You Are My Ka ( Self ) Which Was In My Body .
    8 . The Protector Who Made My Members Sound .
    9 . Go Forth To The Happy Place Whereto We Speed .
    10 . Do Not Make My Name Stink To Entourage Who Make Human Beings .
    11 . Do Not Tell Lies About Me In The Presence Of The Neteru ;
    12 . It Is Indeed Well That You Should Hear !
    13 . Thus Says Father Tehuti ( Thoth ) , Judge Of Truth .
    14 . To The Great Ennead ( Nine Neteru ) Which Is In The Presence Of Father Usir ( Osiris ) .
    15 . Hear This Word Of Every Truth .
    16 . I Have Judged The Heart Of The Deceased .
    17 . And His Ba ( Soul ) Stands As A Witness For Him .
    18 . His Deeds Are Righteous In The Great Scale Of Balance And No Evil Deed Has Been Found In Him .
    19 . He Did Not Diminish The Offerings In The Temples .
    20 . He Did Not Destroy What Had Been Made .
    21 . He Did Not Go About With Deceitful .
    22 . Speech While He Was One The Planet Ta ( Earth )
    23 . Thus Says The Great Ennead ( Nine Nereru ) To Father Tehuti ( Thoth ) Who Is In Khemennu ( Hermopolis Ancient Religious City In Middle Al Kham Associated With Tehuti ) .
    24 . This Utterance Of Yours Is True .
    25 . The Cleared Usir Ani , The Scribe Is Straight Forward , He Has No Evil Deed .
    26 . There Is No Accusation Against Him Before Us ,
    27 . Nak ( Ammit , Nakhas ) Shall Not Be Permitted To Have Power Over Him .
    28 . Let There Be Given To Him The Offerings Which Are Issued In The Presence Of Father Usir ( Osiris ) .
    30 . Thus Says Ani , The Scribe ; Here I Am In Your Presence .
    31 . O Master Of The West .
    32 . There Is No Wrong Doing In My Body .
    33 . I Have Not Wittingly Told Lies , There Has Been No Second Fault .
    34 . Grant That I May Be Like The Favored Ones Who Are In Your Suite .
    35 . O Father Usir ( Osiris ) , One Greatly Favored By The Good Neter .
    36 . One Loved Of The Master Of The Two Lands , Ani , The Scribe Cleared Before Father Usir ( Osiris ) . --- Here Begin The Chapters Of Going Out Into The Daylight , The Praises And Recitations For Going To And From In The Neter's Domain Which Are Beneficial In The Beautiful West , And Which Are To Be Spoken In That Very Day Of The Burial And Going In After Coming Out .
    37 . Greeting To You , Bull Of The West - So Says Father Tehuti ( Thoth ) , The Master Of Eternity , Of Me .
    38 . I Am The Great Neter , The Protector .
    39 . I Have Fought For You , For I Am One Of Those Neteru Of The Tribunal Which Of The Tribunal Which Defended Father Usir ( Osiris ) Against His Foes In That Very Day Of Judgement .
    40 . I Belong To Your Company , O Father Usir ( Osiris ) .
    41 . For I Am One Of Those Neter Who Fashioned The Children Of Mother Nut ,
    42 . Who Slew The Foes Of Usir Who Imprisoned Thoses Who Rebelled Against Him .
    43 . I Belong To Your Company , O Father Har ( Horus ) I Have Fought For You And Have Watched Over Your Name ;
    44 . I Am Father Tehuti ( Thoth ) Who Defended Father Usir ( Osiris ) Against His Foes In That Very Day Of Judgment In The Great Mansion Of The Prince Which Anu ( Heliopolis ) .
    45 . I Am A Busirite , The Son Of A Busirite , I Was Conceived In The Fer - Usir '' House Of Usir ''
    ( Busiris In The Central Delta Sacred To Usir ) .
    46 . I Was Born In Fer - Usir '' House Of Usir '' ( Busiris City In The Central Delta Sacred To Usir ) When I Was With The Mortals Who Lamented .
    47 . And The Women Who Mourned Father Usir ( Osiris ) On The Shores Of The Washerman And Who Defended Father Usir ( Osiris ) Against His Foes - So They Say .
    48 . O Father Ra , Father Tehuti ( Thoth ) Has Cleared Usir Against His Foes - So Mortals Say .
    49 . Father Tehuti ( Thoth ) Has Helped Me So That I Might Be With Father Har ( Horus ) In The Day Of The Clothing Of The Dismembered One . Father Usir ( Osiris ) ;
    50 . And Of The Opening Of The Caverns For The Washing Of The Inert One ( Deceased Usir Before Resurrection ) , And The Throwing Open Of The Door Of The Secret Things In Rasta ( Rosetjau - Name Of The Necroplis Of Giza Or Memphis , Also Passages In The Tomb Leading To The Other Workd ) .
    51 . So That I Might Be With Father Har ( Horus ) As The Protector Of The Left Arm Of Father Usir ( Osiris ) Who Is In Sekhem ( Letropolis - Religious Center And Apex Of The Delta , Cult Place Of Har ) .
    52 . I Go In And Out Among Those Who Are There In The Day Of Crushing
    53 . The Rebels On Sekhem ( Letropolis - Religious Center And Apex Of The Delta , Cult Place Of Har ) So That I May Be With Father Har ( Horus ) In That Very Day Of The Festival Of Father Usir ( Osiris ) .
    54 . Offering Are Made In The Daylight Of The Sixth - Daylight Festival And The Seventh -Daylight Festival In Anu ( Heliopolis ) .
    55 . I Am The Kahum ( Priest ) In Fer - Usir '' House Of Usir '' ( Busitia - City In The Central Delta Sacred To Usir ) , For The Lion - Neter In The House Of Father Usir ( Osiris )With Those Who Raise Up The Planet Ta ( Earth ) .
    56 . I Am He Who Sees Mysteries In Rasta ( Rosetjau - Name Of The Necropolis Of Giza Or Memphis , Also Passages In The Tomb Leading To The Other World ) ;
    57 , I Am He Who Reads The Ritual Book For The Ba ( Soul ) In Fer - Usir '' House Of Usir '' ( Busiris - City In The Central Delta Sacred To Usir ) .
    58 . I Am The Sem - Kahun ( Funerary Priest ) At His Duties ;
    59 . I Am The Master Craftsman In The Day Of Placing The Bark Of Sokar I Falcon - Head Neter Of The Dead In The Memphis Area ) On Its Sledge ;
    60 . I Am He Who Takes The *** In That Very Day , Of Breaking Up The Planet Ta ( Earth ) In Henensu ( Heracleaopolis Religious And Political Center On The West Bank In The Middle Al Kham Near Faiyum ) . O You Who Cause The Perfected Bas ( Souls ) To Draw Near To The House Of Father Usir ( Osiris ) .
    61 . May You Cause The Excellent Ba ( Soul ) Of Ani The Scribe To Draw Near With You To The House Of Father Usir ( Osiris ) .
    62 . May He Hear As You Hear , May He See As You See ,
    63 . May He Stand As You Stand .
    64 . May He Sit As You Sit . O You Who Give Bread And Beer To The Perfected Bas ( Souls ) In The House Of Father Usir ( Osiris ) .
    65 . May You Give Bread And Beer At All Seasons To The Ba ( Soul ) Of Ani , The Scribe , Who Is Cleared With All The Neteru Of The Thinite Nome ( Relgious Center Of Upper Al Kham And Also The Capital ) .
    66 . And Who Is Innocent With You . O You Who Open A Path Up Roads For The Perfected Bas ( Souls ) In The House Of Father Usir ( Osiris ) .
    67 . Open Up Roads For The Perfected Bas ( Souls ) In The House Of Father Usir ( Osiris ) .
    68 . Open A Path For Him , Open Up Roads For The Ba ( Soul ) Of Ani , The Scribe In Company With You .
    69 . May He Come Freely , May He Go Out In Peace From The House Of Father Usir ( Osiris ) .
    70 . Without Being Repelled Or Turned Back .
    71 . May He Go In Favored , May He Come Out Loved .
    72 . May He Be Defended ,
    73 . May His Commands Be Done In The House Of Father Usir ( Osiris ) .
    74 . May He Go And Speak With You , May He Be A Ka ( Spirit - Self , Etheric Double ) With You .
    75 . May No Fault Be Found In Him ,
    76 . For The Balance Is Voided Of His Misdoings .
     
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    Scroll Four

    In The Blessed And Holy Name Of The Great Neter Usir , Son Of Geb And Nut . Children Of The Majestic Amun Ra

    Twenty ~ One
    Chapter Forgiving A Mouth To Ani , The Scribe For Him , In The Neter's Domain
    ( 9 x 1 = 9 )

    1. I Have Risen From The Egg ,
    2 . Which Is In The Secret Land ;
    3 . My Mouth Has Been Given To Me , That I May Speak With It In The Mouth , Has Been Given To Me ,
    4 . That I May Speak With It , In The Presence Of The Great Neter , Master Of The Duat ( Abode Of The Deceased ) .
    5 . May Hand Shall Not Be Thrust Aside In The Tribunal Of All Neter ,
    6 . For I Am Father Usir ( Osiris ) , Master Of Rasta ( Rosetjau - Name Of The Necropolis Of Giza Or Memphis , Also Passages In The Tomb Leading To The Other World ) .
    7 . I Will Share With This One , Who Is On The Dais .
    8 . For I Have Come For What My Heart Desires Into The Lake Of Fire .
    9 . Which Is Quenched For Me .
     
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    In The Blessed And Holy Name Of The Great Neter Usir , Son Of Geb And Nut . Children Of The Majestic Amun Ra

    Twenty ~ Two Chapter Forgiving A Mouth To Ani , The Scribe For Him , In The Neter's Domain

    ( 19 x 1 = 19 )

    1 . Greet To You ,
    2 . Master Of Light ,
    3 . Preeminent ,
    4 . In The Great Mansion
    5 . In Charge ,
    6 . Of The Twilight !
    7 . I Have Come ,
    8 . To You ,
    9 . Spiritualized And Pure ,
    10 . Your Arms Are About You ,
    11 , And Your Portion Of Food ,
    12 . Is Before You .
    13 . May You Forgive Me ,
    14 . My Mouth ,
    15 . With Which I May Speak ,
    16 . And May My Heart ,
    17 . Guide Me ,
    18 . At Its Hour Of Destroying ,
    19 . The Shadow - Hour .
    Rubric To Chapter 72
    As For Him Who Knows This Book On The Planet Ta ( Earth ) Or It Is Put In Writing On The Coffin , It Is My Words That He Shall Go Out Into The Daylight In Any Shape That He Desires And Shall Go Into His Place Without Being Turned Back , And There Shall Be Given To Him Bread And Beer And A Portion Of Meat From Upon The Altar Of Father Usir ( Osiris ) . He Shall Enter Safety Into The Field Of Reeds In Order To Learn This Command Of Her Who Is In Fer - Usir '' House Of Usir ( Busiris - City In The Central Delta Sacred To Usir ) , There Shall Be Given To Him Barley And Emmer Therein , He Shall Be Hale Like He Was Upon The Planet Ta ( Earth )
    , And He Shall Do What He Wishes Like Those Nine Neteru Who Are In The Duat ( Abode Of The Deceased ) . A Matter In A Million Times True .

    Inscribed by ;
    Dr . Malachi Z . York
    H.T.M .
     
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    We are not Arabs so the name used needs to change. Our people called it the Pert em Heru...and being that we are going into this, there are several translations. However, this book is not for everybody and particularly those who have no Kemetic understanding of the various definitions applied to a single word depending on how it is used. It is not for those unfamiliar with Kemetic history or the vocabulary or spiritual structure set in place by our ancestors.

    In other words, wisdom dictates that one does not take pearls and scatter them to the road as if they will be treasured, recognized or understood for what they are. Furthermore there is a question of linguistics here which I will post about so that we look and see with an open mind instead of just grabbing at something because it is there. Who knows, there may be someone here with the genetic memory to unfold what others have not.
     
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    Poor Poor Thing

    I See You Haven't Gone To Any Nuwaubian Site To Disprove The Teaching Of Dr. Malachi Z . York As Of Yet . I Guess You Feel Safe Here Yes . You Havn't Realize Yet , I Care Less What School Of Though Your Following Nor Do I Care Where It Come From . If you / had All This So-called Knowledge When You Step Away From His Teaching . Why Didn't You Write REAL Book Disproveing What He Was Teaching .

    Why Waite Until He In The Belly Of The Beast . A Real Man Would Have True . And Don't Come With That Your Teach Crap . You Hard On For Him . Mental Butt Kicking Is Something Isn't it . You Nothing More Then A Wanna - Be . Your Testimony Are Nothing More Then A Cry For Attention . If What Dr.Malachi Z . York / Anybody Else Teaching Isn't What The People Here Want / Hear / Read Do You Think They're Are So Dumb / Brainwash Etc . That They Can Seek / Reaserach On Their Own .

    You Keep Talking About The White Man Wanting To Control The Nubians Thought's , When Your Doning The Same Thing . Your Were Student Of M.Z.Y , You Know He Never Said Believe Him , He Always Said Don't Believe Me Check It Out For Yourself . It Also In His 400 Or More Books He Have Written ( Don't Believe Me Check It Out ) . He Also Told People Why He Taught Them Diffrent School Of Though.

    He Also Say In The Beginning .. I Came Giveing You What You Want In Order To You To Accept What I Have To Give . People Wanted Religion , Being You Were A Student Of His You Should Know Why He Did Things The Way He Did . Because He Didn't Feed our Ego / Tell You What You Want To Here You Want To Back-bite And Character Assassination . You'll Never Hear A Whiteman Talk Against Any Of Their Lying Teacher , Only Negroid Do These Things . Not Nubians / Black's OverStand .

    I Told Miss Dee I Was Going To Behave . But You Keep Trying To Get Something Started With Me . And Your Lie If Your Saying Your Not .
     
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    Originally Posted by Zacharias
    As you can see or should be able to see, I haven't attacked this brother or anyone else. I have only stated a historical fact...WE ARE NOT ARABS.
    the second fact I stated is the name that our ancestors called the book.
    As you should be able to see, no attack there either...no names used.



    This is where you start getting personal, because I did not ask you "If You cared"...nor do I take your caring or not caring as being important. These are all your own thoughts, not mines.



    Now, being that you asked or made an assumption pertaining to what I may or may not have had when I stepped away from him, let me clarify. When I stepped away from him I did not have all that I have now....I only knew from my internal voice and the studies that I was doing at the time that something wasn't right. I didn't know what it was but I knew something wasn't right....oh, and he was still a free man when I left and he was still the so called Mahdi pushing Islam and the Qu'ran.



    I find this to be very note worthy and I'm glad you said it. Since some of the most intelligent people I ever met were some Christians and some Muslims, why with all their intelligence were they Muslims and Christians? They were what they were because like all of us the majority were conditioned since childhood, they were brainwashed, uninformed and were basically in need of something greater than themselves to believe in....but just like the people who follow a lot of religions, they were highly intelligent. Furthermore, what the people want to hear is very rarely what they need to hear!



    And here you are again speaking as if I'm attacking someone. Your issue or devil is your own. Don't lay that at my door. You got issues and you need to deal with them, because clearly you are forgetting or ignoring your lessons as given to you by your teacher.


    Go back and read, then you be the judge as to who is doing what!
     
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    LOLOLOLOLOLOLO SAD SAD




    First I Didn't Ask You For Your Crying Testimony I Was Telling You Something . And As For The Devil I'm Not Worring About Him , You The One Who Fears The Devil ... The Devil This The Devil That LOLOLOL You Sound Like A Christian . It's Socall Brother's Like You Who Are Full Of Themselves . Who Always Come With That B.S. Your The One with The Issuse Here For Some Reson You Need My Attention . And The Reason Why You Didn't Write Any Books Then , Because He Would Have Deal With How He Did With All Who Had The Balls To Try .

    And We All Know What Happen To Them Don't We . Like I Said When Ever You Get The Back Bone You Can Go To Any Nuwaubian Site For Your Answer If You Dare , Now That YOUR ANCESTORS Are Speakig To You As You Claim Maybe You Can't Correct / Write Some REAL Books Disproveing What M.Z.Y. Taught Yes . It Shouldn't Be No Problem Right , They're Are Speaking To You Yes . Because I Know You Wouldn't Lie On The ANCESTORS Now Would You ?

    A Whole Book Not A Few Lines Ok . Date's / Maps / Names / The Five '' W's '' Etc . Etc .. Because You Did Say The ANCESTORS Told You To Tell People Here Certain Things Yes . Personally I Doubt ANCESTORS Told You Anything . You Got That Concept From The Christian Minister . ..

    Hopefully We Can Get Back To Post Now . Try Seeking For Attention Else Where .
     
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    Nothing like fire is there? Water is better, so flow with this. I give the Honorable Elijah Muhammad the utmost respect and honor for many reasons. At the time he came, he was sincere, humble, spiritual and really in search of the truth. Mind you, he was so serious about his search and in what he knew to be true that he offered a $1,000 dollars to anyone who could prove that what he was teaching was not the truth!

    of course at that time no one was in the position to collect that $1,000 dollars because we were young in terms of our knowledge base and the information we had concerning ourselves. Even your teacher was in the Nation of Islam at that time along with Clarence 13x. However, the point to be made here is that, had your teacher been as sincere and humble in his quest and firm about what he was teaching, he too could have offered a $1,000 dollars to anyone who could prove that what he was teaching was not the truth.

    Well, I learned from that. I learned it so well that I too at one point offered several hundred dollars to anyone who could prove that Abraham actually existed. Why did I do that? I did it because my information said something different and I actually wanted to KNOW if anyone had information out there to refute what I was saying. Needless to say, no one collected the money.

    Now why did I bring this up? I brought it up because a sincere brother who claims to have the truth, or is teaching the truth or is in search of the truth need not "take anyone's head or life" that may have information or knowledge that differs or can be proven to be more concrete than what they are saying or teaching. The only time a person is "silenced or killed" is when that person's information or knowledge base is a threat to what they are doing or saying. This is the method of "White People". Before they will have the people awakened or made aware of something that they don't want them to know, they will kill them first.

    If you know of any teacher or so called black leader who has been moving on this order, you need to really question yourself as to "why"? Truth can stand up to all things and need not destroy, kill, threaten or suppress anyone. This is the very nature of truth. The Qu'ran tells you to seek out knowledge from the cradle to the grave....meaning that it isn't all there. Elijah Muhammad in his last saviors day speech urged the people to seek out the scholars and the historians...meaning that he was aware that "he didn't have it all either. Now since I don't have it all and I know of no "one man" who does have it all, I would be foolish to follow any "ONE MAN".

    I can learn from many, but to follow "ONE MAN"...and a questionable one at that who has to resort to violence to silence others? Something is drastically wrong with that picture. But to each his own....however, if you insist on coming here to post information that isn't 100% true or there is another side to it, then I have to deal with it if I have information that differs from it. At least in this manner the people can investigate both sides and weigh it out for themselves.

    The idea that you get so emotional about me doing so says a lot about your own growth and maturity as a student or a teacher...and if you were really wise, you would know that you are both of those things at all times. Now smoke on that for a while !!!
     
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