Black People : Egypt's Race Problem

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  1. Amnat77

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    For too many Egyptians, sub-Saharan Africa is a stereotypical exotic land of thick jungles and masses of poor, starving and black-skinned savages.

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    Because of my looks, my religion and my name, I have frequently been mistaken for Arab during my travels throughout the Middle East. It has been a mentally liberating sensation -- to leave the racial politics of the United States (in reality, this is simply the process of exchanging the ethnic politics of one land for those of another) and not to be regarded as simply a nondescript "black."

    Over the years, I have, at various times, been mistaken for many different nationalities. But when I am in the Middle East, strangers most often mistake me for Egyptian. Of course, many African Americans look like Egyptians, right across the color spectrum. I would often scan a crowded street in Cairo and pick out the faces of Egyptians whose visages reminded me of family or friends.

    Almost every time I arrived at the Cairo airport, the immigration official would examine my passport closely. Inevitably, the official would ask me a series of questions.

    "Is this your name, Sunni Khalid?"

    "Yes."

    "Are you Egyptian?"

    "No."

    "Is your father Egyptian?"

    "No."

    "Is your mother Egyptian?"

    "No."

    "Where were you born?"

    "Detroit."

    The official would immediately become suspicious. After all, to his eyes, I looked like an ordinary Egyptian. Finally, another immigration official would show up, repeating the same series of questions. I'd have to repeat my answers a third or fourth time before still more disbelieving immigration officials.

    As a last resort, I'd often put my hands up in a boxer's stance and start jumping around, throwing punches in the air. Then I'd turn to them and say, "I'm like Muhammad Ali-Clay." That would always bring smiles.

    "Oh, you're a boxer! Do you know Muhammad Ali-Clay?"

    http://www.theroot.com/views/egypt-s-race-problem?page=0,0
     
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    Over the years, Egypt has had a particularly difficult time coming to grips with its African identity. Many Egyptians do not consider themselves Africans. Some take offense even to being identified with Africa at all. When speaking to Egyptians who have traveled to countries below the Sahara, nearly all of them speak of going to Africa, or going down to Africa, as if Egypt were separate from the rest of the continent.

    More than a few Egyptian women, for example, told me that they disliked the dark-skinned former President Anwar Sadat, ridiculed for years as "Nasser's black poodle." Sadat, whose mother was Sudanese, they insisted, "did not look Egyptian enough."

    For too many Egyptians, sub-Saharan Africa is a stereotypical exotic land of thick jungles and masses of poor, starving and black-skinned savages. Ironically, a little more than a generation ago, Cairo was the nerve center for the continent's liberation movement. Today the state-controlled media devote scant attention to the affairs of the continent below the Sahara. Even the occasional visit by a head of state from sub-Saharan Africa is greeted with smiles by snickering Egyptian government officials, especially when African visitors choose to wear their national dress.


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    ''Whenever my wife would come to the airport to pick me up, she'd often have to fend off several Arab men, who assumed that, as a black woman, she was somehow immediately "available" to their desires, whether she was married or not.''
     
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    I learned something much different from what I believed," said Bala, a native of northern Nigeria and a graduate student at the American University in Cairo, who lived in Egypt for six years. "I thought [the Arabs] were our brothers in Islam, but they don't bother about that when you're black. ... They pretend that you are a brother in Islam, but this is different from what they hold in their hearts and in their minds."

    He told me that for many Muslims from sub-Saharan Africa, the spiritual solidarity with Egyptian Muslims was misplaced. "I was coming out of masjid [mosque] in a place called Dar-el-Malik," Bala said. "So we used to say 'Salaam' to one another when we came out of salat [prayer]. There was one child, called Mohamed, and we were used to shaking hands with him. And one day, I came out to shake his hand and he refused. He told me his father told him never to shake hands with a Sudani -- that is black. So he is telling me his father told him he cannot say, 'Salaam,' to any [Africans]."

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    Folks in the NOI and Louis Farrakhan will deny this phenomenon all day long, because they want black americans and northern Africans to join forces with Arabs in their personal beefs with Jews and whites....but meh....ignorance is bliss...

    glad the Hausa man in the article came to his senses...
     
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    Nice post but the testimonies of African Americans wo have een there and done archeological research tell a different story

    South Africans treat Zimbabwe refugees like crap

    and they could pass for one anothers kith and kin

    Congo has treated Rwandan refugees like crap during the fratricide back in the 90s, between the Hutus and Tutsis

    and there was the brutuality done to those of what was called Biafra, done to them by Nigerians

    this has gone on with Eritreans and Ethiopians

    If this was a straight up matter of race , then it must have our support but when the refugee ish comes in, lets face it back home there are many places where we dawg refugees that look like our own sister and brother son and daughter

     
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    Blogger comment:

    ''This article, though a little reactionary, does point out a valid reality. However, //// The Big Picture \\\\\ is that Afrikans are denigrated by groups throughout the world. Groups who almost all Worshiped Black Gods at some point in History.

    Trying to figure out why and chastise racists is a waste of your energy. What you must do is conquer your Afrikan power (which all these groups know you have, hence their infinite jealousy and hatred of you. They refuse to respect you because you don't respect yourself by honoring your ORIGINS and only /your/ origins.

    There is plenty of research that suggests that all the religions of the world were based on the practices of Ancient Afrikans, so the debate on which religion did what to us is futile. They all come from us, they have all been mangled by people who wanted what we have on OUR LAND, the continent--and used to suppress, oppress, kill, demonize us to facilitate the plundering of our talents, people, resources.

    This is the point that we all miss. Even activism has us arguing over things that don't matter. Determining who is racist does not solve our problem. It is more effective to understand that the racism is everywhere and immeasurable. Stop questioning it. Stop hoping that someone isn't really racist. They are. They are jealous. You have riches that they want. That's all it boils down to.


    Deal with the solutions: Afrikan Spiritual Power, Afrikan Love for Self and Community, Afrikan Re-Organization. Every other effort is futile. Time is running out. The oppressors' bus is about to crash. Don't be on it when it does.''


    Brilliant!!
     
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    Egypt and Sudan have been at war since 7 thousand years

    now if someone could white out or erase the black faces seen in the protest photos or the videos of the protests

    or post an article or data regarding Egytian racism against black Egyptians then there is a case
     
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    ''The guilty think all talk is of themselves ~ ''
     
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