Black Spirituality Religion : Egyptian Mythology & The Trinity

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  1. MysteryDoors

    MysteryDoors Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    In ancient time, our African ancestors did not worship the sun as God. Our African ancestors symbolically view the sun and solar system in comparison to God’s divine will and power in the universe.

    Here is an illustration of the old age concept (triangular or three person god) also known as the Trinity:

    Substance of the sun – cannot be seen = the Father
    The light of the Sun – can be seen, but not felt = the Son
    Heat of the sun - can be felt, but not seen = Holy Ghost

    The Symbolic meaning of Three Person God:

    1. Omnipotent: The Father - all powerful; almighty, unlimited, which is the substance of God.
    2. Omniscient: Infinite knowledge, all knowing, understanding, and the insight, which is the light and revelation of God revealed in the Son.
    3. Omnipresent: Holy Ghost – the Spirit of God is all present.

    In the Egyptian Mythology Osiris, Isis and Horus during the pyramid age, probably represent a similar story in the bible: Jesus, Virgin Marry and Joseph with the Father, Son and Holy Ghost known as the Trinity. Also, in the bible Osiris arch enemy Set representing Satan.
    http://www.egyptartsite.com/osi.html

    "There are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost, and these three are one" (1 John 5:7).

    Col. 2:9 for in him dwells all the fullness of the Godhead bodily;

    Matthew 28:18-20 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.
    19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
    20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

    John 10:34: Jesus answered them, is it not written in your law, I said, ye are gods..

    How do you views Osiris, Isis and Horus of the Egyptian Mythology in comparison to the bible Trinity?
     
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    Fine1952 Happy Winter Solstice MEMBER

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    Well...

    stated...

    Q. How do you view Osiris, Isis and Horus of the Egyptian Mythology in comparison to the bible Trinity?

    A. I view Ausar, Auset and Heru as a great mythological story that helped shape and create "Theosophy" -- A Egyotian Creation.
    that has no direct comparison save for the fact that the source of the biblical text is Egyptian in content, structure and
    context...!


    Thanks 4 Sharing!
     
  3. MysteryDoors

    MysteryDoors Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    My point is that the bible symbolic story about Jesus and the trinity is based on Egyptian Mythology. The Egyptian Mythology about Osiris, Isis and Horus is the original account.
    :pc:
     
  4. Keita Kenyatta

    Keita Kenyatta going above and beyond PREMIUM MEMBER

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    This is a good question. The reason that it is a good question is that "Ausar, Isis and Heru existed as actual people who were deified after their death. If one were to rely on the research of Ivan van Sertima, the head of Ausar has already been found....but then again, like all things, this research must be checked, double checked, cross referenced and then checked again.
     
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    MYTH=There were other beings in the Garden of Eden Before Adam and Eve

    The Myth: Let us make man in our image…And the LORD god said, Behold the man is become as one of us …(Gen. 1:26, 3:22). As a subtext Christians use this to prove an existence of a Trinity also.

    The Reality: Genesis preserves traces of Atum’s conversations with Nun in the Egyptian Heliopolitan Creation myth.

    On two occasions in the second Creation story, God talks to one or more other beings of a non-human nature. Before he made Adam, he said, “Lets us make man in our image”. And later, after Adam and Eve ate the forbidden fruit, he said, “man is become as one of us”. Who is this “Us”?

    Once again, we have an obvious indication of other deities in the creation story. As the second creation story draws upon the Heliopolitan myths, the Egyptian Coffin text 80 provides a reasonable good clue as to whom God was speaking. In that text Atum (the Heliopolitan creator) and Nun (a personification of the primeval waters) carried on a conversation:

    Then said Atum to the waters (Nun): I’am floating very weary, the natives inert…

    The waters (Nun) said to Atum: Kiss your daughter Order (that is Tefnut, who signified moral order

    The “us” in the Genesis story would originally referred to Atum and Nun. And the Wind hovering over the water was Amen. As the Hebrew creator replaced Atum in the creation process, the story went through transformations. The retention of the “us” preserves a remnant of the polytheistic Heliopolitan source for the biblical account of a story they learnt from Egypt.

    Conclusion:

    The bases of the trinity doctrine is flawed and inaccurate.
     
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    Fine1952 Happy Winter Solstice MEMBER

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    Yes MysteryDoors

    Indeed, your statement has validity.:kickball:
     
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    Yes...& This Deification...

    became the standard and basis for Egyptian Theosophy that spread throughout the world.

    Great Point Keita! :bullseye:


     
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    IMHO, AACOOLDRE

    I disagree with the premise of "the Garden of Eden" as I know this is a lie from the mindset of the Levite Tribe - a male/dominiated thing.

    Even the word "Genesis" means - book of Isis (e.g. Greek corruption of the Egyptian GODDESS --Au set).

    I concur that "Genesis" precariously preserves traces of Egyptian Theosophy...however, the main theme was to demorize and demoralize THE GODDESS and women!:em3700:

     
  9. MysteryDoors

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    I agree that the Trinity is confused if religious people interpret it literally. The trinity concept by ancient African standard from the Egyptian mythology means three in an agreement or one unity. Osiris, Isis and Horus or Ausar, Auset and Heru are one unity and justice for all. Also, one of the most important high regard for mother Isis/Auset, she symbolizes our African Holy Spirit.
     
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