Black Education / Schools : Education and Progress in the REAL World

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    umbrarchist Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    But how have most White people "progressed" since MLK was assissinated? They seem to be complaining.



    We seem to live in a system designed to screw most White people so what they call an educational system is designed to screw them. So wouldn't True Education mean out thinking the system? Double-entry accounting is 700 years old but you do not hear educators or economists saying it should be mandatory in high school.

    What if MLK and Malcolm X had suggested that in the early 60s?

    That is why I wrote this:

    http://www.spectacle.org/1199/wargame.html
    Economic Wargames
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    Trusting White people to tell us what "education" is makes about as much sense as trusting the Devil to tell you how to get to heaven. According to info on the Internet Jesse Jackson is worth Ten Million Dollars. But I don't hear him suggesting mandatory accounting either.

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    One thing I only learned on the Internet is that double-entry accounting is 700 years old. Invented in Italy. Most people in Europe could not read 700 years ago. How complicated can accounting really be?

    Another curious thing is taht accounting was on of the first things that big businesses used computers for in the 50s and 60s. But very cheap computers are more powerful than those ancient and primitive machines. So why shouldn't computerized accounting be mandatory today?

    It is not just getting the jobs, it is what is done with the money afterwards.

    Accounting Theory and Practice

    by Roy Bernard Kester

    Published 1917

    https://archive.org/details/accountingtheor00kestgoog

    Accounting Theory and Practice : Roy Bernard Kester : Free Download & Streaming : Internet Archive

    Book digitized by Google from the library of the University of Michigan and uploaded to the Internet Archive by user tpb.
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    If it is 700 years old, how much has really changed in 99 years. LOL

    Depreciation is mention on page 30 in this book but it is not untils 250 in a modern book I have. Knowledge is watered down to better serve the education business these days.

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    This is really funny, but it hits the nail on the head.

    The Politics of Science Fiction
    https://authorraychilensky.wordpress.com/2016/01/08/the-politics-of-science-fiction/

    The Politics of Science Fiction

    I think I was about eleven years old that I first began to think about politics. I was watching a Star Trek episode called The Cloud Minders. The episode centered on the search for a consignment of ‘zenite’: a mineral that was badly needed to...
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    We have to deal with two realities, Physical Reality and Social Reality. But social reality means dealing with people that sometimes have different ideas about physical and social reality. "Herding Cats".

    Climate Denial is a social reality. Whether or not the climate is actually changing because of the spread of technology started by White People is a physical reality problem. It is funny how we constantly hear that "mankind" is the cause rather than Euro-Americans.

    The technology is inescapable however, so we must master it

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    Please do continue to update this thread!

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    I was just talking to a math teacher yesterday. I think part of the problem is that each teacher gets caught up in their own specialty and tries to affect the perspective of the student. That may be fine in college but not so good in grade school and high school. I confess that my own thinking was affected by starting to read science fiction in grade school. That altered my perspective on everything my teachers were saying from 5th grade on.

    I can suggest two related science fiction stories that present ideas and information about all five subjects listed above:

    1632 (Ring of Fire)
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1632_series
    1632 series - Wikipedia
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    1632 can be downloaded for free: http://www.baen.com/1632.html

    1632 by Eric Flint - WebScription Ebook

    by Eric Flint
    baen.com


    1636: The Kremlin Games (The Ring of Fire)
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1636:_The_Kremlin_Games
    1636: The Kremlin Games - Wikipedia
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    This is a strange time travel story where a West Virginia town of hillbilly coal miners is transported back in time to Germany in the year 1631. That was the middle of what Europeans call The Thirty Years War. The second book has one of the hillbillies going to Moscow and changing Russian history. Off hand this sounds rather silly but it is interesting in terms of the technological and cultural clashes. There is a Black doctor from Chicago and his daughter in the story. Modern White writers have to have diversity. LOL

    Before I read this series I could not have told you if Galileo and Oliver Cromwell had lived at the same time. They did, Cromwell was in his 30s and Galileo in his 70s. The Thirty Years War was a big deal in European history though it is just another old war to us. Unless someone is really interested in European history the "education" on the subject won't make much impression. But this strange story shows how ideas from the future would change things like the economy of Russia. Standard education does not show how much things interrelate.

    This also shows the influence of Aristotle on European intellectuals and serfdom and slavery in Russia.

    This book has a Rah, Rah, America jingoist tone to it that turns some people off but I view it as part of the learning experience, in that it educates the reader about how some people actually think and how some readers might be influenced.

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    I'd also suggest adding sf films for your further consideration:

    Both
    Black Opheos

    And Brother From Another Planet are legendary movies...
     
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    I have seen it. The same actor that did Terminator 2. I just Wikied him, Joe Morton. But how much science is reasonably described in movies or television fiction? They are more popular but less informative and thought provoking than books.

    Unfortunately Black writers are not usually very scientific. I think Octavia Butler's Wild Seed is great, probably read it 3 times. But I regard it more as fantasy than SF. I have tried to read Delaney's Dahlgren 3 times because he is such a renowned Black author, but never made it half way. I just don't get it.

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    Big props for passing
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    Always let's do be clearer about what it takes to be truly educated:

    As contrasted with merely being indoctrinated!
     
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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_M._Faucette
    John M. Faucette - Wikipedia
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    I read his Crown of Infinity and Age of Ruin way back when. I could not tell from the stories that he was Black. It had not crossed my mind when I read them. I always remembered the CoI story but forgot the title. I did not recall that I had read AoR until I read it again a year ago.

    Mack Reynolds was a more successful writer in the 60s, but he was White. I do not doubt if Fawcett had written this:

    Black Man's Burden (1961) by Mack Reynolds
    http://sfgospel.typepad.com/sf_gospel/2008/08/mack-reynolds-on-africa-islam-utopia-and-progress.html

    Mack Reynolds on Africa, Islam, utopia, and progress

    It's surprising you don't hear more about Mack Reynolds. By all accounts he injected his stories with radical politics and anti-imperialist utopianism, and he was certainly a precursor of the New Wave. He was well-regarded in his day, and a...
    sfgospel.typepad.com

    http://www.gutenberg.org/files/32390/32390-h/32390-h.htm

    It would not have gotten published.

    I think Crown of Infinity was as good as most of the stuff Reynold's did.

    But thinking about it more critically now they were adventure stories designed to get him into the market. CoI even has an anti-Communist incident in it.

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    PS - This is the first time I have found a picture of him:
    http://www.blackpast.org/aah/faucette-jr-john-m-1943-2003
    Faucette Jr., John M. (1943-2003) | The Black Past: Remembered and Reclaimed
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