Africa : East African Federation by 2010

[Therious]

http://www.deniva.or.ug/files/articles_askingthedifficultquestions.doc

This is a report written on expediting the concepted unified superstate or the East African Federation. To consist of Tazania, Kenya, and Uganda by 2010.

 

[abdurratln]

http://www.deniva.or.ug/files/articles_askingthedifficultquestions.doc

This is a report written on expediting the concepted unified superstate or the East African Federation. To consist of Tazania, Kenya, and Uganda by 2010.

The concept of an East African Federation is a good concept, no doubt. But, the timing worries me. It's been nearly fifty years, now. That is plenty of time to set up any kind of regional federations. The Ghana-Guinea-Mali Union was set up way back in the 1960's. So, what took the East African Federation so long?

What kind of East Africa is this anyhow? East Africa consists of more than three little countries. Where is Eritrea? Where is Somalia and Djibouti? Where is Sudan, the biggest country in East Africa, in Africa, period? We know that historically Ethiopia has been aligned with the real Pan-Africanists. The headgarters of the African Union is in Addis Ababa. We do not yet know if the Bush Gang will permit the new regime in Addis Ababa to continue their Pan-Africanist ways. But, it sure seems odd that Ethiopia is not a part of East Africa these days.

I could not download the site you gave. But, the whole concept of East African Federation reminds me of the Brazaville Group and the Monrovia Group when the Ghana-Guinea-Mali Union was proclaimed. The only thing that prevented Africa from being fragmented into small, non-viable little regional federations at that time was the emergence of the Casablanca Group. The Casablanca Group called for continental unity and led to the formation of the Organization of African Unity. The OAU led to the African Union.

Right now, we are working very hard to have continental unity by 2009. I certainly hope that the concept of regional federations does not sap away our momentum towards continanetal unity. I would not be surprised to find the Bush Gang supporting such a move. There is much too much going on now to allow ourselves to be sidetracked aqnd have our attention diverted by all kinds of anarchy with everybody going in different directions. Let's concentrate all of our resources, time and energy towards African Union. African Union is moving forward rapidly. The only thing that could stop us would be our own misguided actions.

If the Europeans can do a European Union; plus we have a North American Free Trade Agreement, and all that; why not a United States of Africa and Arabia?

 

[Therious]

The concept of an East African Federation is a good concept, no doubt. But, the timing worries me. It's been nearly fifty years, now. That is plenty of time to set up any kind of regional federations. The Ghana-Guinea-Mali Union was set up way back in the 1960's. So, what took the East African Federation so long?

What kind of East Africa is this anyhow? East Africa consists of more than three little countries. Where is Eritrea? Where is Somalia and Djibouti? Where is Sudan, the biggest country in East Africa, in Africa, period? We know that historically Ethiopia has been aligned with the real Pan-Africanists. The headgarters of the African Union is in Addis Ababa. We do not yet know if the Bush Gang will permit the new regime in Addis Ababa to continue their Pan-Africanist ways. But, it sure seems odd that Ethiopia is not a part of East Africa these days.

I could not download the site you gave. But, the whole concept of East African Federation reminds me of the Brazaville Group and the Monrovia Group when the Ghana-Guinea-Mali Union was proclaimed. The only thing that prevented Africa from being fragmented into small, non-viable little regional federations at that time was the emergence of the Casablanca Group. The Casablanca Group called for continental unity and led to the formation of the Organization of African Unity. The OAU led to the African Union.

Right now, we are working very hard to have continental unity by 2009. I certainly hope that the concept of regional federations does not sap away our momentum towards continanetal unity. I would not be surprised to find the Bush Gang supporting such a move. There is much too much going on now to allow ourselves to be sidetracked aqnd have our attention diverted by all kinds of anarchy with everybody going in different directions. Let's concentrate all of our resources, time and energy towards African Union. African Union is moving forward rapidly. The only thing that could stop us would be our own misguided actions.

If the Europeans can do a European Union; plus we have a North American Free Trade Agreement, and all that; why not a United States of Africa and Arabia?

I will try to find another web site with info. You raise some good points. I would be concerned with including arabs in anything black people do, they cannot be trusted, they still need to be "payed back" for there hatred and violence towards black people. I am in the U.S. so I do not know the real vibe on the continent, I would like to see one unified continent, at leasst seperate sates under one flag.

 

[abdurratln]

I will try to find another web site with info. You raise some good points. I would be concerned with including arabs in anything black people do, they cannot be trusted, they still need to be "payed back" for there hatred and violence towards black people. I am in the U.S. so I do not know the real vibe on the continent, I would like to see one unified continent, at leasst seperate sates under one flag.

I feel you, African. I see your point and I respect your viewpoint. But, I never lump all of any group of people into one neat little category. Even the imperialists deserve some human consideration.

As for the Arabs, we are stuck with them. They are too closely related to us to be dis-regarded totally. But, I understand that there are conflicting interests among the various groups in Africa. There are indeed some black-shin Africans that I do not trust. (My religion will not permit me to name them here. But, I am sure they know who I am talking about.) Africa is already more or less federated. That is what the African Union is: a federation, or more precisely a confederation. There is much to give to those who advacate a tighter structure. But, in order to overcome the hesitancy that has been created to prevent African and Arab re-unification, a federation between Arabia and Africa would probably work. At any rate, I am proposing that the Arab League of States join us while reatining it's status as an advocate and protector of Arab interests. At the same time, African Union can be structured to protect Africans from Arabs. With such a federal structure, there will no longer be any basis for conflict between Africans and Arabs. The important thing is to find a formula that unites Africa. Africa includes the Arabian Peninsula.

From an economic standpoint, we need maximum cooperation between Arab oil interests and African oil interests. It makes no sense for us to waste our energy hating Arabs when the real enemy is under-selling us. They will approach the Arabs for say $50,00 a barrel. If the Arabs beg for $51.00 a barrel of oil, they will run to the Nigerians and offer $50.50. And vice versa. They play Africans off against Arabs and vice versa. Does this benefit Africans? Does it benefit Arabs? Well, it sure benefits the enemy. We need to get smart and stop being played like this. If the Arabs are too stupid to wake up, that is no excuse for us not waking up.

 

[Therious]

I feel you, African. I see your point and I respect your viewpoint. But, I never lump all of any group of people into one neat little category. Even the imperialists deserve some human consideration.

As for the Arabs, we are stuck with them. They are too closely related to us to be dis-regarded totally. But, I understand that there are conflicting interests among the various groups in Africa. There are indeed some black-shin Africans that I do not trust. (My religion will not permit me to name them here. But, I am sure they know who I am talking about.) Africa is already more or less federated. That is what the African Union is: a federation, or more precisely a confederation. There is much to give to those who advacate a tighter structure. But, in order to overcome the hesitancy that has been created to prevent African and Arab re-unification, a federation between Arabia and Africa would probably work. At any rate, I am proposing that the Arab League of States join us while reatining it's status as an advocate and protector of Arab interests. At the same time, African Union can be structured to protect Africans from Arabs. With such a federal structure, there will no longer be any basis for conflict between Africans and Arabs. The important thing is to find a formula that unites Africa. Africa includes the Arabian Peninsula.

From an economic standpoint, we need maximum cooperation between Arab oil interests and African oil interests. It makes no sense for us to waste our energy hating Arabs when the real enemy is under-selling us. They will approach the Arabs for say $50,00 a barrel. If the Arabs beg for $51.00 a barrel of oil, they will run to the Nigerians and offer $50.50. And vice versa. They play Africans off against Arabs and vice versa. Does this benefit Africans? Does it benefit Arabs? Well, it sure benefits the enemy. We need to get smart and stop being played like this. If the Arabs are too stupid to wake up, that is no excuse for us not waking up.

i see you working, I too believe any uniting among countries is good even if small. Take the world cup for instance, now I am an american football fan first and formost, but watching the cup I thought man, if these black countries were bigger they could wreck shop, the talent pool was too diluted, I think that syndrome bleeds into many instances and situations. Again i am an outsider looking in however.