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MS234

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You certainly sound like you have some serious, deep-seated preconceptions. Too, I AM seeking enlightenment on the internet: but you say that it's "all about me"? I sense a combative tone to your contribution and, contrary to your assertion, I sense that you do, indeed, have a problem with White people. I'm not trying to pick a fight, but I am not here to apologize for anything that I didn't do.
First off, you not deaing with some kid. Second I sound like i have deep seated preconceptions? Where did you see me use the word "I" in my comment? What you heard is the reflection of your "history" being played back to you. Combative tone? Really? You plan on going to war against me? I just stated facts if you find that combative, well sad to say you're obviously not ready for knowledge or "enlightment" as you put it. Again you can gain all you seek quietly but you like all other white people who come to Black sites, ALWAYS make it about them. Why do I say that. Who asked "you" to apologize. THIS IS NOT ABOUT YOU GET OVER YOURSELF ALREADY. By giving you a "history" lesson, you see it as a fight. lol hahahaha why because Black people are violent like you see on TV lol You sense I have a "problem" with white people. I hope you daddy also told you that you're no psychic. You white people amaze me, your history dictates that you've done nothing but rape, murder, maim, and lynch your thoroughout lands of the earth. But somehow you want the Alice in Wonderland version. Again white people have made great contributions to society. The problem is white people act as if NO other people on earth has great contributions as well.
 

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I found the mini-series unbelievably one-sided: the only Whites in the whole movie who weren't positively evil were a pair of half-witted share-croppers. Kind of a one-sided portrayal.
Please stop trying to act like we're equal, have the same enemies, both have preconceived notions...blah blah blah
It was an accurate portrayal of your history w/ most colored folks around the globe...Whites have been the villains 100% of the the time.
Yall kill me w/ that...
You wanted so see an equal balance of "good" whites folks fighting against slavery? That's fairy tale stuff, it didn't happen that way. SMH
History ain't suppose to make you feel better about yourself it's suppose to tell the truth...and truth is you, your racist daddy, your potentially racist offspring, the rest of your family/friends and even your Church benefited from most of the crimes/injustices committed by whites against colored folks. Deal w/ the truth and stop trying to change the facts. It's too disgusting huh? makes you wanna puke? Sodahellwhat, deal w/ it.
 

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Well, that was extremely mean-spirited, but I will reply in a more civil manner.
"Racist"? If by that you mean that I attach, conciously or otherwise, certain beliefs or character attributes to fellow human beings based merely on their race, then I guess you are partly right, thought I hate to say so, since "racist" is used so often by so many to merely shut others up, and not in its less pejoritive meaning. I was brought up with certain beliefs which I have tried never to act upon, but which are certainly in my mind, however much I would like to exorcise them. Have you ever really tried to go against early childhood upbringing? Not as easy as it sounds.
If I "stay the heck away from blk folks", what will be accomplished?
I am an American: I think the Australian natives will have to wait until I understand my fellow Americans.
We'll have one less racist white person to deal with = PROGRESS!!!!

Check that white sense of entitlement at the door, no one is obligated to be nice to you. This is not summer camp!
 

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First off, you not deaing with some kid. Second I sound like i have deep seated preconceptions? Where did you see me use the word "I" in my comment? What you heard is the reflection of your "history" being played back to you. Combative tone? Really? You plan on going to war against me? I just stated facts if you find that combative, well sad to say you're obviously not ready for knowledge or "enlightment" as you put it. Again you can gain all you seek quietly but you like all other white people who come to Black sites, ALWAYS make it about them. Why do I say that. Who asked "you" to apologize. THIS IS NOT ABOUT YOU GET OVER YOURSELF ALREADY. By giving you a "history" lesson, you see it as a fight. lol hahahaha why because Black people are violent like you see on TV lol You sense I have a "problem" with white people. I hope you daddy also told you that you're no psychic. You white people amaze me, your history dictates that you've done nothing but rape, murder, maim, and lynch your thoroughout lands of the earth. But somehow you want the Alice in Wonderland version. Again white people have made great contributions to society. The problem is white people act as if NO other people on earth has great contributions as well.
LOL
I agree /w your post but...
what great contributions?
I mean between the ish they stole and the ish they fabricated...I just don't know.
 

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I agree /w your post but...
what great contributions?
I mean between the ish they stole and the ish they fabricated...I just don't know.
I don't disagree. yes they've stolen and fabricated much of their "history'. But still there is a contribution here and there. The problem is they don't recognize anyone else's greatness. That is my main issue. But you are right. What comes to mind is when i think about the light bulb and thomas edison lol
 

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Being human, I will not present my objectives perfectly, so I do request your indulgence.
I gave you my indulgence, you call it combative and preconceptive. When the student is ready the teacher will arrive. Trust what I say. If you are really interested in all you say. Time will reveal itself. I know it might sound generic. I thought it did too when i first heard it. Then when I was ready to receive, I totally understand what that meant.
 

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I will look up those books, thanks.
I have seen the mini-series 'Roots', but have not read the book: does the movie follow the book closely, or have the producers taken 'Hollywood' liberties with Haley's work? I found the mini-series unbelievably one-sided: the only Whites in the whole movie who weren't positively evil were a pair of half-witted share-croppers. Kind of a one-sided portrayal.
I do live in a large urban area, and obtained my degree (History/English Lit) at the local urban college.
My city is the third largest in the state, with Whites compromising app. 63% of the population, Latinos 24%, Blacks app 10%.
Lastly, I am quite sure that my preconceived notions are coming across in my convo here: that is what I am trying to fix, thanks.
Actually, both the book and the series are mild by comparision to the reality.

I'm talking about a city of a million or more. That doesnt exist in Iowa. No offense. :lol:
 

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I did state that it was the media emphasizing Black violence, and that many White people have no actual interaction with Black folk: barring positive interaction with actual people, most would be at least influenced by media portrayals.
In many ways, the worst enemy of both is the media, who emphasize sensationalism over a balanced presentation of facts.
Yes, Whites do seem over represented on death row (in proportion to their total percentage of American population). By the same measure, while there are more White folk in prison than Black, the Black percentage of prison inmates is much higher than White, compare to their total percentage of population: ex: Blacks make up about 13% of America's total population, but almost 33% of total prison inmates. Many reasons for this, being social, financial, or cultural, and NOT because of an inborn propensity towards crime by African-Americans.

No, there arent many reasons for this. There is only one. If I gave you a ride in my car, and you left a few vials of crack. The police pull me over 15 minutes after I drop you off. See the vials on the passenger seat. I'm looking at 10-30 years for possession, depending on the prosecuter a/o judge. You would have to be caught with a kilo of powder to get that same sentence. It took 25 years to finally make the sentences match. Crime by crime, there heve been studies showing that we get years longer sentences for the same crime. There is only one reason for that!
 

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Racism. I attend trials in my spare time and I have noticed that certain judges do come down harder on non-whites when sentencing. It is wrong, and I vote against these judges, for what little good it does.
Many judges still deny they do it, even when shown the evidence of their sentencing practices
 

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