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This kinda reminds me of that mcdonald's commercial with Michael Jordan (black man) and Larry Bird (white guy) where Bird goes to Jordans HOUSE, (this site) steps on the 'front porch' and knocks on the door and Jordan opens it up and has a Cheeseburger (knowledge) in his hand. Bird says 'ill play you for your burger (knowledge)' and mike agrees.

The only problem is what does Mike (black guy) get if he wins? what collateral did Bird (white guy) put up?

answer: Nothing!
 

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1. The joy of imparting enlightenment to another.
2. The mutually beneficial exchange of cultural information.
3. The possible friendship of a worthy human being (I am not a perfect man, but try to be a good one).

Ahhh... so, if I understand correctly, you are asking what you get in exchange for educating me?
- not at all! The way you knocked on the door of a black persons 'house' (introduced yourself) and asked us for 'knowledge' but didn't say what you had to 'offer' just caused that commercial to pop up from my mental roledex.

I don't have any knowledge to give....
 

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One of the reasons Black folk have problems with White folk is because of mutual ignorance (IMO). BOth have preconceptions or ideas about the other that preclude a fuller understanding of what and who they are.
What would be the reaction if I walked up to a Black man in the street and started questioning him about Black culture and beliefs? Probably not good: he would cast me as a racist, a troublemaker, or an idiot. I am none of the three, but I am curious about many things having to do with the Black experience in America. I have read 'Black Like Me' (many years ago) and a few other books of that kind, but have never been close friends with an American Black. I grew up in Australia, and knew a few aborigines, but they are nothing like American-Americans.
Interesting because, as I stated, I learned about white people as a result of my personal interaction, not what I was taught. This is to say I learned some if not most white people are racist and some are not. So, my perspective is not based on ignorance but what I know. This leads me to ask, how do you think most white people would respond if I did the same and walked up to them and started asking a lot of questions regarding white culture?
 

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One of the reasons Black folk have problems with White folk is because of mutual ignorance (IMO). BOth have preconceptions or ideas about the other that preclude a fuller understanding of what and who they are.
Black people don't have a white problem with white people. White people clearly have a problem with Black people. It's more than "mutual ignorance" and you're (IMO) is not helping either. Black people DO NOT have preconceptions of white people. The "history" of white people clearly dictates the attitudes that Black people have towards whites. Stop acting like you were born yesterday. Black people fully understand white people, and we understand that white people don't know how to mind their business. White people make everybody else's business their business. Like we've been taught in amerikkka, that the native indian sold their land to the white man. Who in their right mind would sell where they've been living for centuries, for $24 and some beads? White people stole EVERYTHING they have. Stole everything from the native indian, then called them savages, like indians were supposed to just follow along. That is not preconception, that's fact. Let's not even go into slavery as the residual affects are STILL evident today. There are a ton of places you can gain knowledge from, about the Black/African experience (library, internet). You can do so quietly without making it all about you. If you seek knowledge then seek it, you will receive it, if you are genuine. Not ALL whites are bad or racists, but don't complain about being guilty by association, when you've group ALL other people the same way.
 

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I would welcome such an interaction, but most White Folks would be a little nervous, I think. The media have not been lax in portraying Black violence, and many White folk who have little regular interaction with Black folk are more prepared to fear than to accept their company. You have the advantage in that Whites are more numerous than Blacks and you would have more opportunity to interact with them, should you so choose. I suppose that I would too, but I would have to go far out of my way to find them to attempt interaction with.
Interesting that you would mention black violence. Black people are bombarded with images in the news concerning white violence but there may be a difference in that we may not has as high of a fear factor. Yes, there is violence in black communities but this is why I say I learn from my own interaction. For example, last night I couldn't slept because my neighbors were fighting and they are white.
 

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I would welcome such an interaction, but most White Folks would be a little nervous, I think. The media have not been lax in portraying Black violence, and many White folk who have little regular interaction with Black folk are more prepared to fear than to accept their company. You have the advantage in that Whites are more numerous than Blacks and you would have more opportunity to interact with them, should you so choose. I suppose that I would too, but I would have to go far out of my way to find them to attempt interaction with.
1. The overwhelming majority of prisoners on death row are white males

2. +85% of all substance abusers and junkies are white males. ( Uof M study and FBI data over four decades )

3. The overwhelming majority of inmates are white males

Perhaps you should widen your media choices. Unless you are delusional in thinking that white junkies dont commit crimes to support their habits?
 

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I was cruising the 'net, looking to learn, and found this site. I thought I could improve my self and knowledge by interacting with you all, so here's where I am coming from:
I was brought up in a large family, third from the top, by an extremely racist father. While we never lived in a neighborhood where black people lived, he sure told me all about them (not). As Dad was raised in Iowa (a predominately white state) I don't know where he picked them up, but he had a lot of opinions about black folk, none of them good ones.
I attempted to bring up my own children without preconceived notions about people based on race, and I think that I have been pretty successful, for the most part. However, what you are brought up with stays there, no matter how hard you try to root it out. I find that , in my mind, I sometimes jump to conclusions that I am not proud of.
Here's to a free exchange of knowledge...
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The Genome Project says that modern human life, ( Adam and Eve ) originated in Africa. It also states that whites, were the last group to form are our closest relatives. We are either cousins or half brothers genetically. I, half jokingly, state that this means you are the mark of Cain. Proven by you're/ the only ones with proven cave man dna. ( Re: Land of Nod ) Perhaps you can start by viewing:

The Genome Project series ( PBS )

Eyes on the Prize Pt I & II

The Rise and Fall of Jim Crow

Roots

I would also recommend you move to a large urban area and take a few classes at an urban university/college. Btw, your preconceived notions are coming across in yiour convo in here
 

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I was cruising the 'net, looking to learn, and found this site. I thought I could improve my self and knowledge by interacting with you all, so here's where I am coming from:
I was brought up in a large family, third from the top, by an extremely racist father. While we never lived in a neighborhood where black people lived, he sure told me all about them (not). As Dad was raised in Iowa (a predominately white state) I don't know where he picked them up, but he had a lot of opinions about black folk, none of them good ones.
I attempted to bring up my own children without preconceived notions about people based on race, and I think that I have been pretty successful, for the most part. However, what you are brought up with stays there, no matter how hard you try to root it out. I find that , in my mind, I sometimes jump to conclusions that I am not proud of.
Here's to a free exchange of knowledge...
Thanks.
Craig
So, basically you're racist? It's not our job to prove we aren't like your racist father claimed.
And I don't understand the 'it's how I was brought up so that's what I believe' thing...like many of us grew up believing in unicorns and santa but when we grew up we stopped b/c we didn't have any evidence that they exited. You must think there's evidence to support your fathers claims otherwise you wouldn't still be holding on to 'em.
Maybe it would be beneficial for you to:
get an exorcism, go to church, get some holy water or something...
read some history books by african/blk scholars
stay the heck away from blk folks smh

Why not focus on understand the plight of non-white Australians? Your ignorance will probably have more impact on them than black americans.
 

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I did state that it was the media emphasizing Black violence, and that many White people have no actual interaction with Black folk: barring positive interaction with actual people, most would be at least influenced by media portrayals.
In many ways, the worst enemy of both is the media, who emphasize sensationalism over a balanced presentation of facts.
Yes, Whites do seem over represented on death row (in proportion to their total percentage of American population). By the same measure, while there are more White folk in prison than Black, the Black percentage of prison inmates is much higher than White, compare to their total percentage of population: ex: Blacks make up about 13% of America's total population, but almost 33% of total prison inmates. Many reasons for this, being social, financial, or cultural, and NOT because of an inborn propensity towards crime by African-Americans.
Really? Nothing Racial?
 

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