Discussion in 'Black People Politics' started by ru2religious, Aug 31, 2010.
What we need are alternatives...
Not cheap shots at our intelligence etc.
A few things,many people on that panel was saying that Obama wasn't black enough,and now they are saying that he is. Also,those presidents mentioned was faced with the same issues Obama is faced with.People think that Obama should micro-manage every signal aspect of polices and bills that get made. Funny,we didn't put the same expectations on Bush or Clinton. It is not his fault if a state says they want money for one thing then put it towards something else. Even the people of that state are not aware of the shady deals that go on all the time.
Michael Eric Dyson just luuuvvvves to hear himself talk.
I dont know about Pharaoh but he is a Martinist.
Enki (and others)
Some, if not many, of the issues that pres. obama is having to deal with
will most likely be around when he is out of office. Having said that,
do you think folks will argue in support/defense of that future president as
folks do today?
Bush..., we knew about the dude. Unfortunately, the media for the most part
acted like punks and would not report the foul stuff and what he was really about,
for fear of being called 'anti-amerikkkan'.
Clinton exposed our political naiveté. We fell for his charisma. I did as well.
Near the end of his first term, I discovered a man named randall robinson,
who exposed clinton (to me at least) for what he was by shedding some light
on his foreign and domestic policy. We did, I believe, started waking up when
he signed off on that welfare reform bill, the 3 strikes law and making
sentencing laws more harsh for crack than yayo; per the same unit of measure.
Is it possible then, that black folks are more...politically attentive/astute
nowadays then recent? ...Yeah we can say "oh so now that obama is in office,
now folks wanna tune in". Surely I hope we don't tune in - tune out depending
on whether or not a black person is in office from this day forward.
However, if not now... then when?
That is interesting.
We're calling ourselves AFRICAN AMERICANS, i. e., because we were and are a diverse crossection of humanity, and/or one would hope at this late date we truly do judge a person on the basis of their character, etc.
My politics do run more than just skin deep:
Time etc. will tell...
For starters,this presidency is like no other and will be like no other. You have actions being taken,racial cd's being made,and a host of other things that people,white or black has never said or done before. And I think both white and black will not put the next president under the same microscope as they have done Obama. I know Rush,Hannity,and Beck won't,and many of us won't as well.
Fear has always been a useful tool to control the masses,blacks have that fear of being called a "sellout",and because of this,many threw Bill Cosby under the bus,Dyson included.
The three strike law in my opinion don't work because many people are too ignorant to realize what that mean because they have two strikes,then go out and get a third one. The welfare reform,yeah we need it,I know people that abuse and misuse it. And drugs,I know many that have made the choice to be none productive in this respect,so deal with the things that come with it. We can't want something done about crime then complain about the actions that is taken.
Yes we are more attuned to matters of government nowadays,but we have to be realistic also.I remember when Rice and Powell was being dragged through the mud by use because they weren't getting involved in low level crime,that's not they job and that's is what you have your local entities for. We complained that there will never be a black president and now that we got one many of us still isn't happy.
It is always easier to say what needs to be done and how it should be done when you are not in that position.
You think so? I don't. I've had conversations with so many of "us" who have no clue what Obama is or isn't doing. Many of us tuned out shortly after he got elected.
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