Black People : Dr. Frances Cress Welsing on Scandal, slave movies and more

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    Th 4 the refresh, Old Soul!

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    Welsing lays it on the line, in every which way, nothing else needs to be said, except we take on that conversation she suggests, and talk incessantly about racism white supremacy.

    I'm playing this in CrispyChat, right now, and will be playing it often, very often; I'm sorry, but this has to be digested and acted upon, no more talk about it, but being about it.

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    OMG, Scandal is entertainment based on the life of a black woman, written by a black woman.
    The cherrios commercial is about the kid pouring cereal on her daddy's heart to help reduce
    cholester0l and promote good heart health.

    Racism is alive and well in this world. It will be alive and well the rest of our lives here on this earth.

    The reality is that we as a people do NOT have the tenacity to deny ourselves of immediate gratification
    for the long term survival of our race. We have talked ourselves to death. That won't get it. Actions
    must be taken.

    I totally agree with her that more doctors of her profession should be speaking out about racism, but
    they don't. The professionals in our race (for the most part)....make their monies, live in their fine
    homes ,wear their fine clothes (and theres nothing wrong with that).....but they don't reach back into
    the communities they came from, to help those who can't help themselves. The self esteem that
    could be raised by them coming together and shape up old homes that our parents are living in, not
    caring about who else is helped. fix up the playgrounds.. in our hoods, giving of ourselves to make
    ours... to live better, Have tutors come to a neighborhood rec center, build them, where we can see
    that our kids are learning new technology, getting better grades, etc.

    I thoroughly enjoyed listening to Dr. Welsing and as I said before, agree with what she said....
    But, we need to stop talking about it.....and be about it as you said.
     
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    Aren’t we very very fortunate that our truly brilliant scholars like Dr Frances Cress-Welsing and Marimba Ani have done so much with regard to highlighting the ongoing nature of the African HOLOCAUST in the 21st century?

    Isn’t the TRUTH the fact that non-whites in general, we peoples of African ethnicity in the UK, USA, the rest of the Diaspora and Africa specifically, are all frontline soldiers in a War that has NEVER EVER been openly declared then or now by these so despicably cowardly Semitic/White PARASITES, just very very efficiently waged/they JUST DO IT?

    Though Dr Martin Luther King and many others literally paid with their lives battling for our equality as part of the Civil Rights struggle in the USA, wasn’t Malcolm X even more specifically accurate/on point when he proposed to have the USA brought before the UN/World Court for their systematic/CRIMINAL onslaught on the HUMAN RIGHTS of African Americans; in that isn’t it a FACT that the Civil Rights struggle would never have been necessary if African Americans had been accorded the same rights enjoyed by Whites as standard under the USA’s constitution?

    How many of us are aware of the ongoing dispute between Japan, China and Korea TODAY with regard to the manner in which the Japanese continue to either marginalize or totally ignore the CRIMES they committed during WWII,. with any Japanese history teacher who attempts to teach anything about the so easily verifiable facts [that would poison/stunt their collective ego/national pride] with regard to 11 million Chinese slaughtered by the Japanese between 1930-45 [despite the fact that the Japanese paid $50 billion in reparations to China in the 1990’s], being immediately fired?

    Aren’t the more successful nations/ethnic groups [as superbly exemplified by Japan/but the European and Semitic nations do it too, as standard] very selective to the point of outright LIES about what they actually project and promote as historical facts to their populace, in order to prevent traumatizing negativity from becoming an integral part of their knowledge base/undermining both their individual and collective self esteem?

    If they are so carefully selective from a position of considerable socio-economic success/strength don’t the African collective within the USA, UK, the rest of the Diaspora and even more crucially Africa have to be many times more selective with regard to doing more about making sure that Slavery and the last 500 years of totally emasculating traumatizing defeat not being literally the only African history we KNOW [as highlighted by my experience of having absolutely no knowledge of ANY African contributions to technical culture at all, until I was 22 years old]; hinting that our enslavement by Europeans was a blessing that literally saved us all from running around in the jungle as cannibals with bones in our noses?

    Nubia/Khemet/Egypt [provided the the cultural electricity/format for Greece and Rome/Europe’s first technical cultures] was both established and ruled by Nubians who battled and resisted the Semitic hordes incursions and invasions for millennia but from the moment Alexander the Macedonian peasant overran Khemet we've been losing this WAR, with the situation becoming a rout when Augustus [Julius Caesar's nephew, heir and history's most maliciously destructive VANDAL] aka Octavian deliberately destroyed Khemet's most spectacular Pyramid at Abu Rawash, which you've never heard of, have YOU?

    Augustus Caesar’s so deliberate /strategic piece of cultural vandalism was committed in order to DELETE DJEDEFRAH from history as this African Pharaoh is now acknowledged as the builder of the Sphinx which honours his father Khufu [who built the Great Pyramid at Giza]; and as exemplified by the murderous carnage in Darfur and the Congo TODAY, along with the inane stupidity of the way those so treacherous CLOWNS Goodluck and Zuma and co allowed Africa’s greatest ever Arab benefactor Muamar Gaddafi and his regime to be slaughtered by NATO in 2011, we're still in BIG trouble/losing this WAR, aren't WE?

    How many people in our communities in the UK, USA and the rest of the Diaspora and even more crucially in our countries in Africa know anything at all about the African Olmecs who as the intelligentsia/ruling elite, established and ruled Mexico’s first technical culture [according to the British Museum] circa 400-1300 BCE, whereas if you Google the “Olmec Heads” [massive superb granite sculptures weighing between 10-30 tons] 17 of which have been unearthed in Mexico to date, you will find/be able to view for yourself very very graphic evidence of the fact that Africans beat Columbus across the Atlantic as bearers of technical culture by over 2500 years?

    Aren’t these facts far more uplifting/empowering than the traumatizing GARBAGE usually projected by the mass media/status quo, which would have us believe that Africans only ever made it across the great oceans as slaves as opposed to our true legacy as spectacularly highlighted by the Olmec Heads [have you ever seen their photos]?

    Despite the evidence with regard to how the Aboriginal’s ancestors made it to Australia [large boats drawn on cave walls in Australia/the oldest ocean going vessel ever painted], with another group of Africans [Luzia’s people] crossing the Atlantic to South America [northern Brazil circa 15 000 BCE], who were eventually driven to the Southern tip of South America by arrival of the Native Americans 8000 years ago [with no pure breds
    left due to the grief they had with European settlers]; highlighting our allegedly primitive ancestors ocean crossing ability, why are we still allowing our people in general, children specifically to ingest poisonous Eurocentric GARBAGE as opposed to TRUTH?

    Can you now relate to why utilizing our own updated history curriculum in our communities in the UK, USA and the rest of the Diaspora, and obviously in Africa itself, is so crucial with regard to kick starting the African Renaissance in every area of human activity in the 21st century?

    Isn’t ANYONE who genuinely believes they are not programmed
    graphically illustrating that their programming is COMPLETE?
     
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    Speaking to your last question first, absolutely, we must utilize our own updated history curriculum to promote the African renaissance.

    Yes, as a front-line soldier, I say we are very blessed to have all black scholars and writers, very blessed indeed; and we spotlight, once again, our bro. Malcom X in a new release, just published.
     
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    As was The Colour Purple, but are you aware of just how distressed Alice Walker was [the disputes she had on set] by the manner in which Steven Spielberg transformed her book into a brilliantly filmed and acted bullet through our collective brain [whereas aren’t actors just like anyone else just looking to get paid]?
    Maybe, but aren’t other messages being projected/promoted/sent as highlighted by Dr Welsing’s breakdown of the manner in which iconic symbols are used to manipulate us [wasn’t the issue here whites being upset at one of their women be used/totally subservient to a black man in stark contrast to a black woman being a white President of the USA’s bit on the side being Emmy’s material]?
    Maybe, maybe not in that though very integral as a means of social control/White Supremacy, isn’t their problem the fact that the majority of the human family have no vested interest in continuing to go with their flow [hence the WAR ON TERROR and the various other somewhat desperate foreign initiatives]?

    Isn’t the crucial difference the fact that our communities and countries are not intelligently organised and led, with our so diverse array of enemies very very consistently sidelineing or executing any potential leaders they encounter in every area of human activity, in their so despicably cowardly WAR on the African collective?

    Isn’t a major constituent of the GRIEF we all still face the fact that peoples of African ethnicity in Africa and the Diaspora are still in severe trauma/catastrophic SHOCK due to the so all pervasive scale/range of our so totally devastating collective defeat due to the ongoing African HOLOCAUST of over 500 years duration?

    Wherever we live in the Diaspora (whether in Jamaica, Brazil, USA, UK etc) regardless of what our current nationalities are, at least we know that we are not really at home are WE, because our original home is Africa (even though some of us consciously repress that fact)?

    However isn’t it a FACT that even the peoples of African ethnicity in Africa have had to cope with the totally emasculating trauma of being completely dominated by our enemies during Europe's Imperialist/colonial stage of the onslaught [started by Semites 3000 BCE] on their own land/ancestral home, completely losing control of the wealthiest continent on Earth?

    I compared it to a total stranger walking into your 20 bedroom mansion and subsequently [having
    the means of] forcing you to live in the smallest room; an African friend of mine corrected my assertion; he said “When they came to Ghana they didn’t make us live in the smallest room; they told us the toilet is where we belonged and made us stay there”.

    Isn’t it standard procedure for military combatants to be debriefed after combat operations or wars, due to the fact that without debriefing it would be virtually impossible for the combatants to regain their psychic balance/equilibrium after a prolonged traumatic experience?

    Don’t the more obviously severely wounded/damaged also subsequently receive whatever psychotherapy psychoanalysts deduce is required to make them whole [though for some the damage is irreparable?

    Contrast those facts with the non-existent psychotherapy we peoples of African ethnicity (in Africa and the Diaspora which includes the USA, UK and Caribbean) have received to date (in conjunction with the fact that as opposed to acknowledging the wrongs, saying sorry and making reparations, aren’t our enemies making the same play again in the guise of their WAR ON TERROR) after surviving the so maliciously EVIL, sadistic Genocide/HOLOCAST perpetrated by our White Supremacist Racist enemies ancestors against our ancestors over the last 500 years, so why would you or anyone be surprised that our communities display such a wide array of socio-economic dysfunction, TODAY?


    Can you now relate to why utilizing our own updated history curriculum in our communities in the UK, USA and the rest of the Diaspora, and obviously in Africa itself, is so crucial with regard to kick starting the African Renaissance in every area of human activity in the 21st century?

    Isn’t ANYONE who genuinely believes they are not programmed
    graphically illustrating that their programming is COMPLETE?
     
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    How many of YOU are aware of the ongoing dispute between Japan, China and Japan and Korea TODAY with regard to the manner in which the Japanese continue to either marginalize or totally ignore the CRIMES they committed during WWII, with any Japanese history teacher who attempts to teach anything about the so easily verifiable facts [that would poison/stunt their collective ego/national pride] with regard to 11 million Chinese slaughtered by the Japanese between 1930-45 [despite the fact that the Japanese paid $50 billion in reparations to China in the 1990’s], being immediately fired?

    Aren’t the more successful nations/ethnic groups [as superbly exemplified by Japan/but the European and Semitic nations do it too, as standard] very selective to the point of outright LIES about what they actually project and promote as historical facts to their populace, in order to prevent traumatizing negativity from becoming an integral part of their knowledge base/undermining both their individual and collective self esteem?

    If they are so carefully selective from a position of considerable socio-economic success/strength don’t the African collective within the USA, UK, the rest of the Diaspora and even more crucially Africa have to be many times more selective with regard to doing more about making sure that Slavery and the last 500 years of totally emasculating traumatizing defeat not being literally the only African history we KNOW [as highlighted by my experience of having absolutely no knowledge of ANY African contributions to technical culture at all, until I was 22 years old]; hinting that our enslavement by Europeans was a blessing that literally saved us all from running around in the jungle as cannibals with bones in our noses?
    What about the issues raised in the questiona above?

    Isn’t ANYONE who genuinely believes they are not programmed
    graphically illustrating that their programming is COMPLETE?
     
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    In my opinion, addressing those issues would be straying away from the topic and the Thread's video.

    Dr. Frances Cress Welsing on Scandal, slave movies and more

    Our focus should be on racism white supremacy, and how it effects black people. We should also, as Dr. Welsing suggests, concentrate on "talking about" racism as it effects our daily lives. Furthermore, Japan, China and Korea, are not the architects of racism white supremacy.


    Now this becomes a part of the conversation:

    ... don’t the African collective within the USA, UK, the rest of the Diaspora and even more crucially Africa have to be many times more selective with regard to doing more about making sure that Slavery and the last 500 years of totally emasculating traumatizing defeat not being literally the only African history we KNOW ...

    however, its in the form of a rhetorical question, only.
     
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    It is really depressing to see a Scholar, Teacher; who I used to see on the reg on free TV, on Like It Is, Positively Black and Black Journal, hear on the radio on the reg, on WLIBs Global Black Experience, Night Talk and Drive Time Dialogue, relegated to internet blog talk radio, and youtube

    cause with a trillion dollars we still have not yet collectively purchase HDTV channels so she can be seen free to millions across the world, once again!
     
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