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    HODEE going above and beyond PREMIUM MEMBER

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    "We wear the mask that grins and lies,
    It hides our cheeks and shades our eyes, -
    This debt we pay to human guile;
    With torn and bleeding hearts we smile,
    And mouth with myriad subtleties.
    Why should the world be over-wise,
    In counting all our tears and sighs?
    Nay, let them only see us, while
    We wear the mask.
    We smile, but, O great Christ, our cries
    To thee from tortured souls arise.
    We sing, but oh the clay is vile
    Beneath our feet, and long the mile;
    But let the world dream otherwise,
    We wear the mask."
    We wear the mask, 1895 - Paul Laurence Dunbar


    What was the basis for disallowing certain ballots in these states?
    o "Repeaters" were used to stuff the ballot boxes.
    o Fraudulent ballots were printed in order to trick illiterate blacks into voting for Democratic candidates.
    o Ballot boxes were held back in some areas so that more votes could be added later.
    o There was evidence that Blacks were intimidated away from the polling places keeping the Republican vote count low.

    Why would Blacks vote for a Republican candidate over a Democrat in 1876?

    The Republican Party stood for equal rights while the Democrats preferred the subjugation of Blacks.

    Did Republicans also perpetrate frauds during and after the election?

    Yes. Partisans on both sides employed legal and illegal methods in order to gain the presidency for their party.

    The voting fiasco isn’t the first here in the United States. Florida had the same issue in 1876. There were disputed ballots and returns and Florida gave the presidency to Hayes over Democrat Tilden. The outcome of the election of 1876 was not known until the week before the inauguration itself. Democrat Samuel Tilden had won the greater number of popular votes and lacked only one electoral vote to claim a majority in the electoral college. Twenty disputed electoral votes, however, kept hopes alive for Republican Governor Hayes of Ohio. A fifteen-member Electoral Commission was appointed by the Congress to deliberate the outcome of the election. By a majority vote of 8 republicans to 7 democrats the Commission gave all of the disputed votes to the Republican candidate, and Mr. Hayes was elected President on March 2. This man freed the south of their burden to do the right thing to establish themselves back into the union. He forgave the south and ignored the desires of Black Americans.

    “ Let me assure my countrymen of the Southern States that it is my earnest desire to regard and promote their truest interest—the interests of the white and of the colored people both and equally—and to put forth my best efforts in behalf of a civil policy which will forever wipe out in our political affairs the color line and the distinction between North and South, to the end that we may have not merely a united North or a united South, but a united country. “


    Although a galaxy of famous Republican speakers, and even Mark Twain, stumped for Hayes, he expected the Democrats to win. When the first returns seemed to confirm this, Hayes went to bed, believing he had lost. But in New York, Republican National Chairman Zachariah Chandler, aware of a loophole, wired leaders to stand firm: "Hayes has 185 votes and is elected." The popular vote apparently was 4,300,000 for Tilden to 4,036,000 for Hayes. Hayes's election depended upon contested electoral votes in Louisiana, South Carolina, and Florida. If all the disputed electoral votes went to Hayes, he would win; a single one would elect Tilden.
    Months of uncertainty followed. In January 1877 Congress established an Electoral Commission to decide the dispute. The commission, made up of eight Republicans and seven Democrats, determined all the contests in favor of Hayes by eight to seven. The final electoral vote: 185 to 184.

    Hayes did not claim victory, but on Wednesday evening Zach Chandler claimed it "beyond a doubt." Several days would elapse before unofficial tallies were available in South Carolina, Florida, and Louisiana, and they were subject to review by Republican-controlled returning boards, which were empowered to throw out votes where fraud or intimidation had been practiced. With the sudden power to pick the next president, these boards would be pressed by Democrats to count the actual ballots and by Republicans to throw out votes. Convinced on Wednesday night that the Democrats "were desperate" and that Republicans had to "prepare for any & every possible emergency," William E. Chandler departed posthaste for South Carolina, Florida, and "Louisiana if necessary," he reported to Hayes, "to aid. . .in preventing our being defrauded out of what we have fairly won."