Black People : DOES WHITE MAN MAKE US GANGBANG? DID WHITE MAN MAKE US HIPHOP?

[Therious]

Brother Therious, notice that each response to my posts you keep comin with the EAST THAT WAS, and that was 20 years ago or more.

Face it bro, your own east coast slant does not even do jsutice to Bambatta's definition of HIP HOP which was all inclusive.

Stra8 up bro, the East KILLED "hip Hop" if anything when they ELIMINATED the Fifth Element of KNOWLEDGE and changed it to "Moguling" (Russel, Puffy, Jay-Z, most notably).

And that is EXACTLY what they call it "Moguling".

How can anyone blame the South, West, Hyphy, etc for following suit?

No defense here but some ya'll sound like some Eastern elitists who need to GO BACK HOME to them southern roots.

I mean...for real...the same can be said for the East Coast...Other than Kanye West and Common "A few others are the only cats to me out of the East that even try to create creative rhymes"

Every thing else is step infetchit (Puffy) signifying monkey (Busta) bling-blinging (Jay-HO-Va) "pimp music" and wanna be strippers (Kim, Foxy)...

At least the South is DIFFERENT and that's why its selling.

And as far as Nas is concerned dude done changed stripes so many times he done lost sight of who he is. Thats why no one in the West or South attend any of his shows and he cant even sell as a Headliner.

HMM...??? MAYBE MY WERDZ WERE TAKEN WRONG OR I PRESENTED THEM WRONG. THE REGIONAL WARS ARE OVER.IF ANYTHING POSITIVE IS TO BE SAID.IT'S THAT RAP IS MORE UNIFIED THAN EVER,AND THATS WORLD WIDE!!(WATCHED URBAN MASSIVE ON THE AFRICA CHANNEL LATELY? ACTUALLY CALLED THAT STATIONS HEAD QUARTERS AND GOT A JEWISH MAN AS THE ONE WHO TAKES PITCHES-A LITTLE IFFY ON THAT STATION BUT THATS ANOTHER DISCUSSION!)

LIKE I SAID SAID THE SOUTHS BEATS ARE SO CRAZY THEY HOOK YOU IN,BUT THE MAJORITY OF EMCEES FROM THAT WAY HAVE NO DISTICNT STYLE!

YOU RIGHT THOUGH, THE EAST WITH "NAME BRAND RAP" WAS THE BEGINING OF THE END. BUSTAH RYHMES...YEAH DUDE WENT POP,BUT HIS RHYMES ARE STILL OFF THE MAP.

BIG FAN OF HYPHY THOUGH!!!! IMO HYPHY IS THE RESSURECTION OF HIP HOP!!

NAS IS SUPERIOR TO MOST RAPPERS CHECK THAT ALL RAPPERS FROM THE SOUTH DESPITE HIS MIXED MESSAGES. NOT A REGIONAL THING MAN! I KNOW WHAT FLOW IS AND LIL WAYNE, T.I., SOLDIER BOY ARE NURSERY SCHOOL RHYMERS.NOT HATE JUST MY OPINION.

EXCUSE ME FOR BRINGING UP OLD-20 YEArs ago rappers, BUT I THINK THE DISCUSSION WAS ABOUT THE ORIGINS THATS WHY I MENTIONED THOSE NAMES. THE ONLY SOUTHERN RAPPERS THAT EVER MADE ME THINK WERE GOODIE MOB AND OUT CAST.NOW CATS LIKE UGK,DAVID BANNER,, I RESPECT FOR THEIR SKILLZ. THERE IS A DIFFERENCE IN CONSCIOUNESS FROM DOWN SOUTH THATS TRUE, IMO IT IS A MORE IGNORANT CONSCIOUSNESS. BUT MUCH LOVE AGAIN FOR THEIR MONEY GETTING!!

 

[Therious]

HOTEP (WHAT THAT MEAN??/SERIOUSLY)

I AM A RAP FANATIC , THAT IS I BUMP ALL FORMS OF RAPP. THOSE SONGS HAD TO DO WITH BREAK DANCING YES JUST HAVING FUN.THERE WERE ALSO SOCIAL POLITICAL SONGS OUT AT THAT TIME AS WELL.

THE ARGUEMENT Rap is a reality was true at one point in time,now the "i am from the hood" song and dance is simply a template for sales. No one forces you to murder or sell crack, your music is a reflection of your thoughts as well as your environment! so those same streets also have bread doctors and lawyers!

im saying we must be careful giving pyschopathic killers a pass. here in my neck of the wilderness people get shot and killed at the club on the regular.it's embarasssing,anoying, and sickening. Music controls your thoughts,if people were just rapping bout having fun why are there so many brainwashed zombies busting inside the g--dam--- club??? because they are not just rapping about having fun, they are planting in the subconscious to kill. I don't think it is necessarily a bad thing that black youth are willing to kill for respect,just not each other or me lol.[/QUOTE]

I feel what u saying.. but music doesn't control thoughts... i have to disagree on that point...

the bolded comment ... not seeing the humor in it... who should they kill... they may not die... but what life is there for them in prison or looking over their shoulder...

no one was saying rock and roll was planting seeds.. when they come out with lyrics saying i use to love her but i had to kill her.. had to put her six feet under...

u hurt my son.. yeah imma kill u.. with no remorse.. and i'll do my bid...

but to die for nothing... some sideways definiation of respect... nah... that's a no .. negative.. not.

yell.... my equal... nuff respect.

WHAT'S GOOD MY LADY?



TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION I BELIEVE OUR YOUNG BROTHERS ARE SURROUND BY ARMED ASSASSINS (POLICE,FBI,CIA ETC). I THINK ONE OF THE BIGGEST PROBLEMS IS BLACK FOLK ARE TOO NICE!! THERE WILL COME A TIME IMHO WHEN IT'LL BE TIME TO KILL FOR YOUR LIFE,KATRINA WAS A GLIMPSE OF WHAT WILL HAPPEN IF THE LIGHTS GO OFF!!! THAT IS MARTIAL LAW ON AFRIKLANS !!!!SO IS IT A BAD THING BLACK MEN ARE ARMING THEM SELVES?HELL NAH,IS IT BAD THEY ARE KILLING OTHER BLACK MEN?T HAT'S THE PROBLEM.IS IT A PROBLEM THEY ARE SHOOTING COPS AND ROBBING WHITE BANKS?NO JUST DON'T GET COUGHT.I ADVISE ANY YOUTH TO STAY OUT OF CRIME AND IN SCIENCE CLASSS ,ROBOTS ARE THE FUTURE NOT GUNS-MAYBE ROBOTS WITH GUNS,ON SECOND THOUGH WEAPONS ARE THE FUTURE BUT THATS ANOTHER STORY!!!,,,NOT GOOD!!.BUT YT IS STRAPPED AND WE SHOULD BE TOO!!!

I WILL DISAGREE!! RAP IS FULL OF "CREEDS"AND "CHANTS"AND "ANTHEMS""STREET PHILOSOPHIES".ALL HIP HOPPERS HAVE HEARD THE SAYING RAP IS WHAT YOU DO HIP HOP IS SOMETHING YOU LIVE!!

KEEP IT REAL MEANS TO SPEAK YOUR MIND,OR BE TRUE TO YOUR WORDS.WELL WHEN YOU BUMP SONGS LIKE IM KILL THEM AND THEM,THATS WHAT HAPPENS. I KNOW IVE WITNESSED IT WITH MY OWN EYES,.YET IT'S NOT A RAP PROBLEM AMERIKKKA IS A SICK AND VIOLENT NATION!

LOOK AT T.I. talking about how he's an american gangster yeah he in soME real amrikkkan trouble now-if he is really guilty! AGAIN T.I. HAD TO BE TRUE TO HIS WORDS!

 

[Omowale Jabali]

Sorry brother therious...

HMM...??? MAYBE MY WERDZ WERE TAKEN WRONG OR I PRESENTED THEM WRONG. THE REGIONAL WARS ARE OVER.IF ANYTHING POSITIVE IS TO BE SAID.IT'S THAT RAP IS MORE UNIFIED THAN EVER,AND THATS WORLD WIDE!!(WATCHED URBAN MASSIVE ON THE AFRICA CHANNEL LATELY? ACTUALLY CALLED THAT STATIONS HEAD QUARTERS AND GOT A JEWISH MAN AS THE ONE WHO TAKES PITCHES-A LITTLE IFFY ON THAT STATION BUT THATS ANOTHER DISCUSSION!)

LIKE I SAID SAID THE SOUTHS BEATS ARE SO CRAZY THEY HOOK YOU IN,BUT THE MAJORITY OF EMCEES FROM THAT WAY HAVE NO DISTICNT STYLE!

YOU RIGHT THOUGH, THE EAST WITH "NAME BRAND RAP" WAS THE BEGINING OF THE END. BUSTAH RYHMES...YEAH DUDE WENT POP,BUT HIS RHYMES ARE STILL OFF THE MAP.

BIG FAN OF HYPHY THOUGH!!!! IMO HYPHY IS THE RESSURECTION OF HIP HOP!!

NAS IS SUPERIOR TO MOST RAPPERS CHECK THAT ALL RAPPERS FROM THE SOUTH DESPITE HIS MIXED MESSAGES. NOT A REGIONAL THING MAN! I KNOW WHAT FLOW IS AND LIL WAYNE, T.I., SOLDIER BOY ARE NURSERY SCHOOL RHYMERS.NOT HATE JUST MY OPINION.

EXCUSE ME FOR BRINGING UP OLD-20 YEArs ago rappers, BUT I THINK THE DISCUSSION WAS ABOUT THE ORIGINS THATS WHY I MENTIONED THOSE NAMES. THE ONLY SOUTHERN RAPPERS THAT EVER MADE ME THINK WERE GOODIE MOB AND OUT CAST.NOW CATS LIKE UGK,DAVID BANNER,, I RESPECT FOR THEIR SKILLZ. THERE IS A DIFFERENCE IN CONSCIOUNESS FROM DOWN SOUTH THATS TRUE, IMO IT IS A MORE IGNORANT CONSCIOUSNESS. BUT MUCH LOVE AGAIN FOR THEIR MONEY GETTING!!

After posting I remebered you mentioning something to me awile back about coming from "Dena" I thino it was so it was incorrect for me to hit you with that east coast label. Yeah Busta got some man flow but was is he really saying that's different than Chamillionare or Lil Wayne. Cham actually got some fairly progressive releases such as evening news and police story. "Trying to catch me ridin dirty" that's true in LA man and you know that's all LAPD be trynna do. I also agree their is a difference in consciousness but I dont wanna get no one mad. lol!

I did mention hyphy though and if it is the "resurrection of hip hop" then it aint dead homie. You know the Yay always keepin it funky. Paris even been making a comeback with Guerilla Funk.

 

[MRS. LADY]

WHAT'S GOOD MY LADY?



TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION I BELIEVE OUR YOUNG BROTHERS ARE SURROUND BY ARMED ASSASSINS (POLICE,FBI,CIA ETC). I THINK ONE OF THE BIGGEST PROBLEMS IS BLACK FOLK ARE TOO NICE!! THERE WILL COME A TIME IMHO WHEN IT'LL BE TIME TO KILL FOR YOUR LIFE,KATRINA WAS A GLIMPSE OF WHAT WILL HAPPEN IF THE LIGHTS GO OFF!!! THAT IS MARTIAL LAW ON AFRIKLANS !!!!SO IS IT A BAD THING BLACK MEN ARE ARMING THEM SELVES?HELL NAH,IS IT BAD THEY ARE KILLING OTHER BLACK MEN?T HAT'S THE PROBLEM.IS IT A PROBLEM THEY ARE SHOOTING COPS AND ROBBING WHITE BANKS?NO JUST DON'T GET COUGHT.I ADVISE ANY YOUTH TO STAY OUT OF CRIME AND IN SCIENCE CLASSS ,ROBOTS ARE THE FUTURE NOT GUNS-MAYBE ROBOTS WITH GUNS,ON SECOND THOUGH WEAPONS ARE THE FUTURE BUT THATS ANOTHER STORY!!!,,,NOT GOOD!!.BUT YT IS STRAPPED AND WE SHOULD BE TOO!!!

I WILL DISAGREE!! RAP IS FULL OF "CREEDS"AND "CHANTS"AND "ANTHEMS""STREET PHILOSOPHIES".ALL HIP HOPPERS HAVE HEARD THE SAYING RAP IS WHAT YOU DO HIP HOP IS SOMETHING YOU LIVE!!
KEEP IT REAL MEANS TO SPEAK YOUR MIND,OR BE TRUE TO YOUR WORDS.WELL WHEN YOU BUMP SONGS LIKE IM KILL THEM AND THEM,THATS WHAT HAPPENS. I KNOW IVE WITNESSED IT WITH MY OWN EYES,.YET IT'S NOT A RAP PROBLEM AMERIKKKA IS A SICK AND VIOLENT NATION!

LOOK AT T.I. talking about how he's an american gangster yeah he in soME real amrikkkan trouble now-if he is really guilty! AGAIN T.I. HAD TO BE TRUE TO HIS WORDS!

whoa... ok... feeling that ^^ ....

feeling you on the bolded now... I understand ur point....

very very true ......

vulnerable minds indeed...

I AGREE 100 x that black folks r too nice......

people stay away from me cause they perceive me as "angry".. ya, I'm angry...... and u should fear that.. because then u never know what my next move will be.. what i'm capable of...

I also agree with you.. that when you say something over and over and over that you are actually willing that to happen....

it's what u putting out there if u will.......

to me, the cats in the street.. if their minds get focused in the right direction.... there will be trouble... trouble..

but not for m.e.

cause when the time do come.. i know what side i'm on....

i know what i'll do....

did u think there was some kind of association with t.i going to jail, and the comments that he made on the political debate that he had on bet??

and thank you for clarifying what u meant... u had me a lil scard there for a quick sec........

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[MRS. LADY]

sure didn't want to leave this out!

TIME IMHO WHEN IT'LL BE TIME TO KILL FOR YOUR LIFE,KATRINA WAS A GLIMPSE OF WHAT WILL HAPPEN IF THE LIGHTS GO OFF!!!


^^^ how many people r aware of this ^^^^

I know I been getting some things together...

batteries... flashlights.. food .. blankets.. first aid kits.. life perservers for my lil man.... a rope or something strong to tie him to me if need be...

compass.. can-opener...

stored foods.. preservatives.. sardines....

ya, a paranoid .. narotic.......

I'll be that this time.... seen my peeps stranded.... no one was coming to get them.....