Black Spirituality Religion : Does the Relationship Between Christians and Muslims Follow the Color Line?

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  1. river

    river Watch Her Flow MEMBER

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    Not too long ago a Black man had a chicken franchise in this little Bible belt town. He had excellent food and good friendly service and a local church was a big customer buying buckets of chicken for their events. But when this church asked him to post flyers for their events he refused to do so because he is a muslim. Well when word got around enough people in this whole town stopped eating there that he had to close his doors.

    My muslim friends tell me there is a repore (how do you spell that word? I have a mester's degree in English and don't know how to spell re-poor smh) between christians and muslims. While the church teaches us to fear and shun mulims when the nitty gets down to the gritty racial solidarity often prevails over religious differences.

    I don't think this "re-poor" exist beteen white christians and arab/mid-eastern muslims who have no point of connection like we do in the Black community. Am I right or wrong?
     
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    I was taught that there is no racism in Islam but I disagree 100%. History and our realationship with the proponents of Islam/Arabs has been the best teacher historically and personally. At the same time, there exist a division within the Christian church as it regards color as well.

    Our people in this country whether muslim or christian have a tendancy to buy what we like regardless of who is selling it. However, in what you call the Bible Belt, there exist a greater solidarity in Christian churches than up north. So it's not hard to conceive the idea that they are very aware of their economic clout and potential and will support those who support them. That situation was one of economics as opposed to religion.

    At the same time there is extremism in all things and as such the potential for it to surface is always there. Only in the Eastern world does it actually carry a more religious weight than it does here.
     
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    River

    There are several issues we're dealing with here.

    First of all when you're comparing Black Christians and Muslims...most of them are AMERICAN and share the same cultures and backgrounds to begin with.
    They come from basically the same environment so their is more comradery.

    But I bet there wouldn't be that same type of connection between Black Christans and Somalis who are both Black and Muslim.

    Culture and nationality plays a huge role in how well people relate to eachother regardless of religion.




    Secondly.......

    If you're comparing racial solidarity.

    I don't understand why you compared Black Christians to Black Muslims.

    But when it came to White Christians you compared them to Arab/Middle Eastern Muslims who are of an entirely different race.

    Perhaps these whites should be compareed to white Muslims like Bosnians or Chechnyans.





    Keita

    Islam is the instructions, Muslims are those attempting to follow them.

    There is no racism in Islam....but there is heavy racism in the Muslim world.

    Most of it falls along the lines of "tribalism" more so than racism because there are a lot of fighting even among different tribes within the same race.
    Look at Iraq, Somalia, Pakistan.

    The Muslim world tends to be more divided along racial/tribal lines than even the Christian world.
     
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    Point taken.

    I never think of whites as having a significant muslim population in America. Of course, if you're going to go over seas that changes everyting. But I'm talking about the way we relate here in this country. I just put the Arab muslims as a natural counterpart to white christians in juxtaposition to Black muslims and Black christians.
     
  5. Dual Karnayn

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    I understand this, but when you're discussing racial solidarity, whites and Arabs are not of the same race.....like Black Muslims and Christians.

    In my humble opinion, a better comparison would be between the white Christians and white Jews here in America.
     
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    Yes, that is my point that they don't share the racial identity so it is harder for them to come together the way Black christians and Black muslims do.
    Now these two groups hardly even notice any difference unless one of them has had a bad day and doesn't have anybody Black to pick on.
     
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    Lol.......
     
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