Black Women : Does race matter when it comes to RAPE?

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  1. NNQueen

    NNQueen going above and beyond PREMIUM MEMBER

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    I read somewhere recently that a great tragedy is that MOST Black men know AT LEAST ONE BLACK WOMAN in their lives who has been the victim of rape, incest, molestation, or some other form of sexual assault. Does race matter when it comes to rape?

    Read for yourself and tell us what you think!

    http://www.suntimes.com/output/mitchell/cst-nws-mitch16.html

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    If murder is the world's oldest crime, then rape is surely the world's second oldest crime. Does race matter when it comes to rape? The violation, shame, and trauma of such a disgraceful act is the same for any woman regardless of color. What is different is how these cases are brought to justice. Historically speaking white men have rarely been convicted of raping women or color, while black or hispanic mean get thrown under the jail for doing so (or being accused of doing so).

    This article though touches on another issue though, not of forceful rape, but statutory rape. This is a somewhat different matter, and in this instance one's culture can play a major role. In many cultures it is normal for an older man to date younger women. Indeed in some places a 15 year old can be considered a woman. As stated in the article, statutory rape has to be reported, for the offending adult to be convicted. If he/she is not report the justice system appears to view this as "no harm, no foul". In Black & Hispanic houses many don't seem to mind thier girls dating & having children by older men (the recent uproar over R. Kelly not withstanding). I don't need to read about it, because I see it daily: 16-17 year old girls living with men in their 20s & 30s. Grown men picking up 14 & 15 year old girls in their cars. 25+ year old men taking high school girls to the Sr. & Jr. Proms. None of these relationships are secrets from their parents (usually just a mother). Is this truly a cultural issue, or is something more going on? I'd like to hear what the ladies of Destee think.
     
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    not to sound smart or anything, but why would race matter? A crime is a crime. Men and women are raped in jail. So rape is rape, no matter who the perpertrator is
     
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    Panafrica you make some very good points about the complicency of adult condoning their under age daughters dating men in their 20's and 30's. I would imagine their argument would be, "what can I do as a parent? she'll just do it behind my back" To that I would say, that depends on the level of guidance given to the child and the overall character shown, and taught by parent.
     
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    I've noticed that this mostly occurs in homes which do not have fathers in them. I can't say for sure if these young ladies are looking for father figures in older men, but I'm sure this does play a role in this situation. However this only explains the mentality of the girl, not the mother who permits the relationship. Do these guys financially support the mothers (I know of some cases like this)? Do they just not care who their daughters date?
     
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    Brother Sekhemu, consider this. A white man rapes a Black woman. A Black man rapes a white woman. A Black man rapes a Black woman. Does race matter in how these acts are perceived and handled?

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  7. Sekhemu

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    NNQueen,

    I am under no illusion of the role miscegeny has played in this country or abroad with regard to the rights of black women. It is painfully clear to me that white men have historically had little to fear if they are accused and/or found guilty of raping a black, latina or native american women, and I should also include little girls and boys, in AmeriKKKA. However, I don't recall the question of how the issue of rape is handled regarding black women, in the beginning of the thread... though your point is very significant and abundantly valid. :jumping:

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  8. river

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    I understand what you are saying Panafrica. To understand the double standard and the role of race in the case of statutory rape (as opposed to forced rape) it may prove helpful to understand the purpose for the statory rape law. If it were about protecting the girl the man would be charged even if the parents did not accuse him. Like Sek said crime is crime. If you kill someone the law will come after you whether or not someone reports you. But statutory rape stems from the patriarchal notion that the father is the owner of his daughter. That's why part of the marriage ceremony is the father giving his daughter to the groom as if she is his property. The father does not want to give the groom "damaged property." For this reason in the eyes of the law statutory rape is not about what the man did to the girl but about what he did to the father's property. In the case of a black or hispanic girl where the father is absent or unwilling to protect his "property" the law, which is alrealdy prejudiced against him and does not see him as the owner of anything, sees no need to step in.
     
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    That was deep River, this is a bit of history I was not aware of. Thanks for posting it!
     
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    That was indeed deep River. An excellent analysis of the situation. This is further proof that men are needed in the black household, not just for practical purposes (a guy is less likely to try some "ish" if the father is involved), but for legal purposes as well.
     
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