I hear black parents (actually American parents in general, but since this is a black discussion board, I'll stick to how it pertains to us) talk about wanting to raise self-sufficient, independent kids. Dad sticks his chest out with pride and mom brags to her coworkers about how their son or daughter got their first job, went out and got their own place, bought a new car, and are supporting themselves. They say things like: "As soon as they turn 18, they gotta go." "They've got to learn how to fin for themselves" "I've done my job, I've put in my 18 yrs." "It's time to cut the apron strings." "We can't wait to have an empty nest again". Young adults, and especially men, are quickly shunned in our community for living with their parents after the age of 20. They are viewed as being less than successful or called mamma's boys. People start to question them. "Why are they still livin' up under mom & dad? What's wrong with them? But people from non-American cultures don't think like this at all. They have no problem with their children living with them well into their 20's, even their 30's. They actually encourage it. Now don't get me wrong. When a young adult gets a job and lives at home, they should definitely contribute to the household expenses, but they then have the vast majority of that money to save and invest, as opposed to throwing it away on an apartment, furniture, a new car, stuff that will only depreciate in value. So by the time they get married or go out on their own, that money has already gained some interest. They have something to show for that work. They have a good nest egg from which they can buy a house, pay off student loans, use for retirement, or even support mom and dad in return for supporting them all those years. We are so quick to push our kids out into the world in the name of "independence", but then when we become elderly we end up living in poverty because we're broke, the kids are broke, the grandkids are broke, and nobody has the resources to properly take care of anybody. We have very little to no generation wealth in our community. Why aren't we (and our children) willing to forgo independence for the sake of improving our financial status? Isn't it time we re-evaluated this mindset?