Black Spirituality Religion : DO *YOU* SPEAK TO ANCESTORS?

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  1. Metaverse

    Metaverse Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Some people call it "communicating with the dead" - but we should know better, afterall it is we who perfected the craft.

    Every now and again, somewhere on Destee.com, someone might mention this, or even give some brief details about what an Ancestors has told them, in a dream or perhaps in a trance or meditation.

    As the Eur year of 2008 approaches- perhaps this is something we need to talk about more. I am certain that our Ancestors are speaking to us, the question is- who among us right now at this forum is listening?
     
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    Brother MetaSaience ... when my Mother first passed away, it was so hard on me, and i prayed to God that i could be with her in my dreams. My requests were granted on rare occasions, not always when i asked. It was sooo wonderful! So Beautiful! As though we were really together! I'm not one to dream a lot of dreams (that i remember), but i know all of these! I remember being able to cry at the feet of my Mother, with her rubbing her hands through my hair, petting me, and loving me, and consoling me. I would wake up so refreshed, so renewed, so encouraged! I received a comfort that could not be found on this earth. When days got really bad, and i missed her so, i would pray this prayer, a poem i wrote ... asking God to let me have her in my dreams ...

    oh dear God

    oh dear God
    i need more strength
    courage and sustenance
    Lord if you will
    allow her please
    join me tonight
    in my dreams

    oh dear God
    i know you know
    the depths of which
    my sorrow flows
    Lord if you will
    hear my prayer
    ease my broken heart's despair

    oh dear God
    i miss her so
    how much longer
    can i go
    without her love
    please intervene
    give her to me in a dream

    oh dear God
    let her hold me
    as she wipes
    my tear stained eyes
    let her say
    just one more time
    it will be okay
    dear child of mine

    Many times too, i feel the blessing and presence of our Ancestors in this community, in this effort. I feel that it is, and always has been, guided by their approval, wisdom, and ability to see all things. It keeps me encouraged during the most challenging of times, that i don't have to always lean to my own understanding, or what i think i should do. I feel as though they have manifested miracles in this place, regarding this place. I believe that if not for their presence and approval, we would have been closed down long ago.

    So yes, i do speak to Ancestors.

    I have a feeling though, knowing you, that i'm missing out on some conversations i could be having.

    So i'm anxiously waiting to see what you really have in mind, by posting this thread! :)

    :heart:

    Destee
     
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    Metaverse Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Very powerful testimony Mother Destee,

    perhaps this thread's mission has already been revealed through you. Because now we have a recording of a prayer that has worked for you, as I am sure it will work for those of us who are missing their loved ones in a peaceful place.

    It is very powerful when we have our own personal evidence of these things, and not just what others have told us of their own experiences.

    Those who have gone on before us, are there- waiting for our prayers, our poems, our chants - our songs.

    It's a beautiful thing when they touch us and respond to our questions. Or appear- even for a moment- just so we can know they are still available for us whenever we need them.

    It is very healthy for us to share these experiences and thoughts. In time, we will all be Ancestors too. And perhaps we are in this world to learn how to communicate well with one another. When the time comes- we will be the ones on the other end- hoping that our work, words and life experiences were not in vain. And hoping that as we express our energy those who are connected to us through blood- will be able to hear us.

    Our Ancestors are in a timeless place, therefore all time is available to them. They can see things and explain them to us before they happen. They are revealing many things to us in many different ways. For this, we should all be thankful.
     
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    I enjoy all of your threads and posts MetaSaience

    I'm very thankful to the Creator/Creatress for blessing me with the ability to be able to speak and listen to my Ancestors for guidance. They :grouphug: have ALL the right answers and information to assist me in this life. I'll tell you this too, it don't take them long to provide you with answers and information...their much faster than jesus, and I say this because it's people in my family that's been waiting on jesus to assist them for decades. They will not even consider the TRUTH about our ability to communicate with ancestors. Dr. Ray Hagins :teach: says: "THEY THAT BE WITH US, ARE MORE THAN THOSE WHO ARE AGAINST US"
     
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    I really think that they communicate with me,but in most cases,i know that im not aware of it...and it really piss me off:censored: Im sure they warned me up recently,about a dangerous person,in my dreams...

    MetaScaience, how do you " speak" with your ancestors???Do they actually use languages?
     
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    Cwen fam,

    My ancestors speak to me, mostly through my dreams - although I do receive mental messages to do a certain something or what not. I do divinations for people and my ancestors speak to me when I perform that work, occasionally. I have my ancestor shrine, which actually consists of two spaces. For my African ancestors, especially my Congo ones, I have cornmeal spread on the floor in an ideogram. For my First Nation ancestors, I have loaded cornhusk dolls and a ritualized bucket with a statue representation.

    I've received information in my dreams, such as recipes, history, ritual workings, herb uses, spiritual instruction, names, locations, warnings, blessings and direction. I believe our ancestors are always speaking to us; our objective is to learn how to listen more intently and with clarity. Brother Meta, you are correct - in 2008 we all should make it a point to develop a more intimate relationship with our ancestors. We may be surprised by the outcome.

    Seneb, I can not speak for Brother Meta and will not try to, but for me, my ancestors speak in ways I can comprehend although in dreams they may reveal certain words I've never heard before. Trust your being and your ancestors.

    O-oneh,
    Blackbird
     
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    Great Topic!!! ((((MS)))))

    Ancestral Worship is absolutely fascinating. :jumping:

    To my knowledge the only group that used this arsenal to their advantage were the Haitians. :teach:

    I firmly think that if we ever mustered up the nerve to wake up and realize the power behind the power that we have our "collective" knowledge shut HAARP down....! :cake:

    But alas, that's just a piped dream. Black folk are never going to wake up from the drug called religion generally nor the "the lying lore of Christianity" -- specifically! :skillet:

     
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    Oh Dutchess you have just given us a trigger! "Something" told me to start this thread. "Something" has been speaking to me for some time now....and now "Something" is saying it's time for us to work on this communication ability.

    Yes our Ancestors speak louder than any Avatar of spirituality and religion. This is because they have lived this life. Be certain that if an Ancestors says "make a left here" it because they know the road. Only those who "have been there" can truly guide us. Those who have been in the same wells we are trapped in can help us out. A Mother can guide the path of her daugther, a Father the path of his Son, now imagine what our Great great great Fathers and Mothers can do.

    Seneb, the process can be frustrating- and BlackBird has provided very good wisdom because that is exactly what works well for me. The Creator speaks through your understanding, and so do Ancestors.

    Ancestors are always warning us about people and events. "Something" won't feel right. "Something" will tell you, don't go with this or that person. The goal still for me is learning how to listen clearly.

    This will sound strange to some people, but this is something I do to train myself to "listen." Every now and then I drive somewhere far away and literally "get lost." I drive far enough, make enough weird turns, go down enough dirt roads- until I can't figure out where I am. And then I sit in the car and I listen.

    100% of the time, I will find my way back. Now, some people will chalk that up to instinct and memory. However, when I do this I am forced to open myself up to my inner guidance. Like Mother Destee's poem, I have one that says "find me whenever I am lost."

    BlackBird you are a shinning example!!

    Can anyone bless this thread with images of their altars?
     
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    Sis. Fine1952! Yes it is very fascinating. Now we have to be careful, because a very well educated Elder warned me against defining some of our science as "Ancestral Worship" because this is not always what we are doing. While there are many spiritual traditions that "worship" Ancestors, knowing you are still connected, or the act of connecting with a loved one might not require a full scale ritual.

    This Elder told me, "when I cross over don't come Worshiping me with any fancy candles and incense talking in tongues and asking me for help- because I might try to kill you."

    He was joking of course, but making an interesting point. He went on to say, "call on me just like you call me now. Open your mouth and speak, if there is something I can help you with I will."

    I often think about this, because what is "worshiping?" Do we want to be worshiped when we become Ancestors? Or is worshiping just a ritualistic way of keeping someone in memory? Worshiping is actually more than just that.
    A Woman knows that if a Man has posters of Janet Jackson all over the house that is worshiping her. Which means that he is "feeding" these images.

    Worshiping is a very powerful ritual, and it is very important for us to take inventory of what and who we worship, why are we feeding them?

    Ancestral Worship is and was part of a very strict African spiritual diet, because these rituals not only governed over our daily lives but our destiny. Yet it is also a science to Ancestral Worship and this science is something we need to overstand in order to cure the current religious obsession our people suffer from.

    Let's look at it from another perspective provided by Dattatreya Siva Baba.
    In this following video he speaks about a very popular "feeding ritual" for our Ancestors. In this ritual you are instructed to hold rice and sesame seeds in your right palm and pour water over it calling out to the Ancestors 6 generations on your Mother and Fathers side.

    Many of you are way beyond this level and overstand how this ritual works, but why does it work?

     
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    I have yet to set up an altar mainly because I did not feel ready. I am
    Ready now I need direction. Could any one whom feels qualified to assit with the ideology and physical set up assit me . Thank you in advance
    Hotep.
     
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