Black People Politics : Do YOU KNOW the real reason Nelson Mandela was freed?

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  1. Orisons

    Orisons Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Were you all previously aware of the FACT that formal Apartheid in South Africa [its informal now like in the USA/UK and most of the rest of the World] only ended up reeling on the ropes due to the debacle that resulted from the South African Expeditionary Army assisting UNITA led by Jonas Savimbi forces push on Angola’s capital Luanda, which was stopped by the MPLA Cuban coalition’s forces at Cuito Carnevale in 1987; when the Cuban piloted MIG’s achieved air superiority along with the Soviet tanks driven by the coalition’s forces encircling the South African/UNITA counter offensive at T’Chipa in 1988 was the knockout blow, wasn’t it?

    When the Neo-NAZI racist Afrikaner NUTCASES tried to regroup, beat the count, the white South African youth cut them down by refusing to be conscripted/recruited en mass into the bloodbath Angola was poised to become for the South African Expeditionary Army [now that their dream of driving the 55 000 Cuban volunteers assisting the MPLA into the sea, was in tatters]; which was when the negotiations to free Namibia/dismantle Apartheid began; in Cairo; all of which is general knowledge in Angola, Namibia and South Africa, but has NEVER EVER been published in the rest of the world, has it?

    Nelson Mandela, to his credit attempted to publicly project and promote the TRUTH as underlined by his first foreign trip after being freed from jail being to Havana, where he very publicly thanked Fidel Castro and the Cuban people for their HUGE contribution to the African liberation struggle generally, in South Africa specifically, what could he do about the Western mass media imposing a total NEWS BLACKOUT of both his visit and Fidel Castro's subsequent visit to South Africa [due to him accepting Nelson Mandela's so personal invitation] where he was thanked by the ANC in South Africa's Parliament?

    Why shouldn’t we use Nelson Mandela’s death to promote the TRUTH [which their mass media has so efficiently repressed to date] with regard to the manner in which thousands of Cubans paid with their lives to make political freedom a reality for non-whites in general, the indigenous peoples of African ethnicity specifically in Southern Africa; or haven’t you noted the manner in which their mass media TODAY is STILL attempting to say that Apartheid collapsed/Mandela was freed due to pressure/economic sanctions/white benevolence, which were a SHAM weren’t they in that the USA, UK and the west were covertly supporting South Africa’s Apartheid regime [a fact that only Maggie Thatcher was EVER honest about, with David Cameron part of a group of Conservative MP’s publicly lobbying for Nelson Mandela to be hanged] as opposed to the very comprehensive manner in which a modern white army was CRUSHED by a modern comparably equipped non-white/African army?
    APARTHEID DIED OF SHAME!
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  2. Orisons

    Orisons Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    This poster [below, from another thread] definitely doesn't know, does he?
    Ken and most people STILL believe that the racist Afrikaner NUTCASES in South Africa moved from formal Apartheid [to informal like in the USA and the rest of the West] out of choice as isn’t he obviously totally unaware of the manner in which with the aid of 55 000 Cuban volunteers the MPLA stopped the South African Army/UNITA coalition’s push [focus on driving the Cubans into the sea] on their capital Luanda in 1987, and subsequently encircled them at T’Chipa in 1988; forcing them to open the negotiations in Cairo that freed Namibia and Nelson Mandela, in return for the Cuban Expeditionary Force [which was funded by Gaddafi/Libya] with their MIGs and Tanks leaving Africa?
    Wasn’t their major victory in the USA the fact that the institutional repression in every area of human activity of non-whites in general, peoples of African ethnicity specifically was/is STILL regarded today as a Civil Rights issue, as opposed to part of the longest running most despicably EVIL Human Rights violations on the historical record?

    Would any of the Civil Rights battles have been necessary if African Americans within the USA were accorded their Constitutional Rights in the manner that whites take for granted, as opposed to being reminded by the unpunished executions of Trayvon Martin, Renisha and many others that despite having a Black man as President, their lives are worth NOTHING in the land of their birth?

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    Yes just as the American Civil Rights Movement tactical victory was one based on shaming the American government.
     
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    :11100: the devil has no shame…...
     
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    What, specifically did I say that would give you the indication that I believe SA moved from Apartheid by choice????? Obviously you won't be able to point out anything I have said since I don't believe that at all. Stop being goofy and making claims that are absolutely untrue of me.
     
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    Ken and most people STILL believe that the racist Afrikaner NUTCASES in South Africa moved from formal Apartheid [to informal like in the USA and the rest of the West] out of choice as isn’t he obviously totally unaware of the manner in which with the aid of 55 000 Cuban volunteers the MPLA stopped the South African Army/UNITA coalition’s push [focus on driving the Cubans into the sea] on their capital Luanda in 1987, and subsequently encircled them at T’Chipa in 1988; forcing them to open the negotiations in Cairo that freed Namibia and Nelson Mandela, in return for the Cuban Expeditionary Force [which was funded by Gaddafi/Libya] with their MIGs and Tanks leaving Africa?
    Are YOU denying that you spouted this drivel [above] with regard to violence, were very obviously unaware of the African Starlingrad at Cuito Carnevale when by stopping the South African Expeditionary Army/UNITA coalition’s push on Luanda with the Cuban jet fighters gaining air superiority, formal Apartheid in South Africa’s back was broken [by extremely violent warfare without which Nelson Mandela would have probably died in jail as opposed to as a free man/former President of South Africa]?

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    Kadijah Banned MEMBER

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    Why start up a new thread and post the EXACT SAME messages you posted on another thread? There's nothing new being said in this thread. :huh:
     
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    Wasn’t their major victory in the USA the fact that the institutionally racist repression in every area of human activity of non-whites in general, peoples of African ethnicity specifically was/is STILL regarded today as a Civil Rights issue, as opposed to part of the longest running most despicably EVIL Human Rights violations [integral with the ongoing African HOLOCAUST of over 500 years duration] on the historical record?

    Would any of the Civil Rights battles have been necessary if African Americans within the USA were accorded their Constitutional Rights in the manner that whites take for granted, as opposed to being remined by the unpunished executions of Trayvon Martin, Renisha and many others that despite having a Black man as President, their lives are worth NOTHING in the land of their birth?
    What victory was that, exactly, in fact hasn’t INTEGRATION literally destroyed the self sufficiency/do for self ethos that created spectacularly successful African American communities like the GAP of Tulsa circa 1920 and Rosewood?

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    There's no comparison of the CRM using white Americans' pretensions to Christian morality, the pretty words of the Constitution and America's boast of being a shining beacon of human rights to the world - Shaming Tactics - with the tactics of the ANC/PAC toward the Boers and Afrikaners of South Africa that made no such claims.
     
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    AND?

    Were you previously aware of exactly why Nelson Mandela was freed, and why didn’t you note that that thread was closed before I could post the message that is in this thread to Ken and Sekou [why not pay attention, address assertions/answer question in the direct manner possible with this medium, for a change]?

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