Black Spirituality Religion : Do You Know My Voice?

[willa]

Jesus is the mediator of our Salvation and to our Father in Heaven.

The Lord hath knelt upon the earth for us.
His words too glorious, to write them.
The tongue can never speak, nor
the hearts of men conceive --
So great the words that Jesus prayed.

 

[RAPTOR]

A veil is drawn over the memory of man, or there would be no test if you have all the answers; and could remember the love, greatness and Glory of God. Our first parents Adam and Eve chose for us to know the experience of good and evil, learning the opposition of all things: the sweet and the bitter; strength and weakness, happiness and sorrow; love and hate; compassion and disregard, etc.
If we choose God we will gain wisdom. You now have lots of choices every day.

Adam and eve (assuming you are speaking literally as to suggest that they truly existed), is no more my parents than snow white and poppa smurf.

This is as fantastic an apology as I have ever read. However, what is also realized is that that ain't free will, especially if I am not
given a choice as to whether or not I want to 'take the test'. If the divine was like, 'ready or not; here you go',
without my being given the choice, then it is not free will.

You accept ignorance in this case; I do not.
"Now" in terms of being able to make choices, doesn't
mean much if 'then' is removed from memory.

If you look at the state of black folks today -a thorough look- you
will see our issues have much to do with being made to forget who
and what we were. And that is not on a divine/cosmic scale.

 

[willa]

Adam and eve (assuming you are speaking literally as to suggest that they truly existed), is no more my parents than snow white and poppa smurf.

This is as fantastic an apology as I have ever read. However, what is also realized is that that ain't free will, especially if I am not
given a choice as to whether or not I want to 'take the test'. If the divine was like, 'ready or not; here you go',
without my being given the choice, then it is not free will.

You accept ignorance in this case; I do not.
"Now" in terms of being able to make choices, doesn't
mean much if 'then' is removed from memory.

If you look at the state of black folks today -a thorough look- you
will see our issues have much to do with being made to forget who
and what we were. And that is not on a divine/cosmic scale.

What...You don't like being a child of God?
Therefore...You don't like being an heir to a throne.
And...You don't like knowledge, by a best teacher --experience?
You opted in: When the foundation of this earth was created with a Plan of Salvation.
Job 38: 7 You sang and shouted for joy when you heard the opportunity to advance in knowledge on this earth and receive an exalted glory, earned by searching for God in truth, Faith and then loyalty through obedience. You mention ignorance without reading the living scriptures which unfolds explanations, the map, and the mysteries of the Cosmos worlds in their purpose and of their God who created them and how. The scriptures testify of who we all are, where we come from and why we are here.

 

[RAPTOR]

What...You don't like being a child of God?
Therefore...You don't like being an heir to a throne.
And...You don't like knowledge, by a best teacher --experience?

Job 38: 7 You sang and shouted for joy when you heard the opportunity to advance in knowledge on this earth and receive an exalted glory, earned by searching for God in truth, Faith and then loyalty through obedience. You mention ignorance without reading the living scriptures which unfolds explanations, the map, and the mysteries of the Cosmos worlds in their purpose and of their God who created them and how. The scriptures testify of who we all are, where we come from and why we are here.

Everything in the above is a strawman.

Instead of creating an argument to argue against,
deal precisely with my points/remarks.

You opted in: When the foundation of this earth was created with a Plan of Salvation.

Prove it.
Reciting quotes is not evidence.
They may reinforce your belief, yet that don't yield proof/evidence.
Were you there?

 

[willa]

Everything in the above is a strawman.

Instead of creating an argument to argue against,
deal precisely with my points/remarks.


Prove it.
Reciting quotes is not evidence.
They may reinforce your belief, yet that don't yield proof/evidence.
Were you there?

You are making the accusation therefore I think the burden of proof is on you that you are right, not me. So what is your proof. We are ready to check it out.