Science and Technology : Do You Believe In UFOs


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Aug 3, 2014
True....I do not know why
but then they appeared which is what he said he could do....summon them
I do not know the rules under which they are operate in our space, maybe their are constraints which we are not cognizant of.


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Aug 3, 2014
And the LORD went before them by day in a pillar of a cloud, to lead them the way; and by night in a pillar of fire, to give them light; to go by day and night


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Jan 21, 2020
They guy said, if I'm not mistaken, that soon there would be more and that one would come down. So what's different now?

As far as the cloud by day and pillar of fire by night, my friend, that's called a volcano.


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Jan 21, 2020
And I apologize to you if my comment came off the wrong way. What I meant was that you and I have seen plenty of volcanoes before. We know what a volcano is. It's not new to us.

But to the Israelites this was the first volcano they had ever seen or heard of. So naturally, superstition took control and they thought it was God the same way that people used to think the same of the Sun. And the "son of God" even merged with "God the sun". And that's why we celebrate the sun of God's birthday on December 25th; the birthday of every sun god.

But I digress...

Because the Israelites had never seen a volcano before they were afraid. This naturally went along with the "fear of YHWH" because if you're super religious then you think everything that happens is whose will? God's. So being such an oddity they thought it was God "descending" upon the mountain in fire. Because they didn't know that fire doesn't come "Down" onto a mountaintop, but rather "ascends" from below and the pressure causes it to erupt and shoot fire and hot magma into the air. How were they supposed to know what that was? How would they be able to call it a volcano when they had no knowledge of such a thing? To them it was like a UFO....

but not to us. We know what it is. We don't have to wonder or guess.

when we understand how volcanoes work we have to understand that there is no way that the Israelites DIDN'T see the Santorini volcanic eruption. There's no way they didn't. But there is no OTHER record of them seeing it. So what should we believe? That they saw something, knew it was God, then saw a volcanic eruption as a secondary event and were tight lipped? Volcanoes can also cause the plagues that we saw in Kemet. It can cause fish and other animals to die because it releases toxic/poisonous gas. A tectonic shift could also cause changes in the shape of land masses which could easily cause a river or lake to drain.

And let me just remind everyone that Moses was the only person who the bible claims went all the way to the top of Sinai to "see God". And this firey description is never ever seen again. No where else in the bible is God likened to fire have a presence powerful enough to kill a human. And if they followed the cloud by day and pillar of fire by night it would have been stationary if it was a volcano, where as a normal cloud would constantly be pushed by air currents. So according to occam's razor, which is more likely? That there was a fire in the sky that burned without any fuel and didn't behave like a normal fire? Or that it was the output of a volcano and the people simply didn't connect it with a mountain until they got close enough to actually see the mountain.
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